Why racism in sport is so dangerous

I keep forgetting you can see inside my mind Mushi. According to the doctrine of Mushi, I can't post a comment without you completely getting it wrong, even though it's clear to you what my real objective is.

:laughing: Off the top of my head I normally assume it would refer to those who believe "white" people are inherently superior to other "races". Though where white ends, ie inclusion of eastern and southern Europe seems to be a sticking point so Paul will probably deflect the argument there and say it doesn't exist as term.

It's a deflection paul. You're saying without an all encompassing solution and debate that reaches beyond our borders we can't discuss it. According to the doctrine of Paul there is no meaningful topic that can ever really be discussed as every discussion needs to begin from a point of being all encompassing. Here in Australia it's reasonably obvious the most destructive racism emanates from. There's a constructive way for you to broaden the debate towards your supposed objective but it's clear to me your real objective is to frustrate any discussion to allow the status quo to remain.

I disagree is not just the uneducated redneck brigade , it's also the white I'm too well educated for u to call me racist brigade , always a interesting topic, u have the blatantly racist brigade low iq who are obvious, or the well educated articulate racist who will argue that blacks should get over their historical mistreatment ," look the fact the last aboriginal hunted for fun in tasmania was over 100 years ago , get over it ...or the fact in the 80s-90s lots of aboriginals seem to accidentally die in police cells ..I mean u cant prove they were bashed to death cus u know the police investigated it an cleared themselves ..get over it ...... u cant call us racist ..look at that other country...deflecting is when u dont discuss the topic u direct it to a different Avenue

I think they just called out your Centrelink number Duuurg .

Hi Paul. I see the “it’s not a whites only issue” argument in the same way that I see the “not all men” argument. It’s a deflection. Yes, there are other people who perpetuate racism just as there are men who aren’t sexual predators. But the fact is that in this country there is a long history of racism by white people, as there is in the US. Yes, other countries have racism and yes, some people of non-white heritage absolutely display racial discrimination and sometimes appalling attitudes. That doesn’t mean white people get to point at others and claim “yeah well, they do it too so why are you picking on us?” As a white middle class male Christian (yes - pale male and stale) I can either feel put upon because lots of other people who fit one or all of those labels did bad things and I don’t so don’t blame me, or I can accept that others have done the wrong thing and we all have to accept some responsibility for that and do what we can to make it right.

If you believe the term is correct, then define it. I'm guessing you often throw hyperbolic terms around quite loosely e.g. your description of Trump as a 'tyrant', which trivializes the suffering of people who live in actual tyrannical regimes rather than imaginary ones. As for being 'emboldened', at least I am bold enough to write under my own name Mr/Ms 'Doug Graves.'

He can't Kay. The bottom-line is that he basically doesn't want people discussing the issues because it makes his side look ridiculous. Yet he'll be one of the first to scream censorship. Deplorable behaviour really.

Nonsense. The term is applied correctly to those on the alt-right who feel emboldened by the rise of tyrants like Trump. I'm guessing it's been levelled at you quite frequently.

Just sad, insecure and poor excuses for human beings trying to be tough on the internet.

Thanks Paul Glad to see we do agree on something. Thanks again for your offer of helping me with my reading, too. Let's start with ambiguous and confusing opinions. How do you read that?

Paul is correct in saying racism is not a 'whites only' issue. Japan, for example, does not allow immigration and diversity, which in Kay's terms must be seen as a racist policy.

I know what it means, but I'm not sure what Isaac means by it. The term is flung around very loosely these days, and often used incorrectly.

Kay, You either have difficulty with your reading and I can help with that, or you have such a bias, you can't see any other opinion but your own. Just to refresh your memory, I've included the last sentence from my last post. "" The one thing we most certainly agree on, there’s no place for racism is sport."

Not sure I understand Paul, You believe no place exists for racism in sport but believe these issues should be addressed in a different forum? Not on a sporting website? Could you please explain what the more appropriate forum for racism in sport would be?

Try google

Paul, It's interesting to be called ignorant by someone denying blatant racism and quoting Martin Luther King jr. An Afro-American civil rights legend. The irony was not lost on me. I imagine his inspiration also came from a "whites only" perspective. I suppose if wilful blindness is your choice, than all I can do is wish you luck. Wish us all luck. And as you love MLK so much I return serve with another quote you perhaps overlooked. "To ignore evil is to become accomplice to it"

I agree with your overall premise Isaac, but can't see that link. What are the causes for the racist comments that you flagged, are something for another forum, perhaps? The one thing we most certainly agree on, there's no place for racism is sport.

Kay, You are the perfect example of what I was referring to in my first comment. You have decided that the issue is exclusively a "whites only" issue when it is clear racism is not only about whites, it's a bias that is spread by ignorance like yours.

What is a 'white supremacist'? I'm not sure what you mean by the term.