De Belin drops Federal Court appeal over no-fault stand down rule

Exactly , yet may increase false accusations because of the even greater damage the liar can cause.

You have declared Jones guilty of foul comments in the comments above. You seem to be unaware that someone can be guilty of something outside the court system. If he did it, he's guilty of it, can't be that hard to comprehend surely.

If you can't see the neutral impact that having Lodge back in the game who was found guilty of shocking actions and find absolutely ZERO relevance to the JDB case then good luck to you , just carry on.

Everything you write is just a guess and you haven’t guessed correctly once in this whole matter...

The NRL didn’t let Lodge play for two seasons!!! This isn’t a hypothetical where you have to guess at what anyone would do. The NRL didn’t let him play until the outcome of his legal proceedings was known...just like JDB. Yet again you are saying you know more about the NRL sponsorships than the NRL. You are one of the dmbest people I’ve ever dealt with. You create your own magical hypothetical situations that have nothing to do with reality, then attribute them to me and then argue against them!!! It’s unbelievable.

Of course it's a wild guess and no I don't present guesses as facts, I leave that up to others. I wouldn't be surprised if Beattie can see what might unfold and wants to be gone. Plenty of people in power do it , just a guess , that's all.

You haven't noticed Lodge playing for the Broncos ? If they didn't let him play and he took them to court, they and you, would be banging on about how much damage would be caused to the game . You would be saying that the game would lose sponsors. You would be wrong.

Who would be interested in any more headlines about JDB if he was playing.? What exactly would these headlines be about? JDB makes 40 tackles and 10 hit ups? Bound to make the front page. We've seen what happens when players are allowed to play, it's largely about the game , it's not a mystery.

What are you on about how? JDB has been completely out of the headlines other than his appeal of the stand down. The NRLs stand down policy has absolutely worked on that front.

An absolutely completely and utterly wild guess, considering the Federal Court supported the NRLs stand down of JDB...why would Beattie be resigning because of JDB? Credit where it’s due though, you normally present these wild guesses as “fact”

You keep going there with the comparison to Lodge. “Imagine if Lodge was refused entry back into the NRL” He was refused entry. He didn’t play for two years while his case was being heard...just like JDB. He was only let back in once the court process was finalised. Where were you then jumping up and down about the NRL forcing Lodge to play for Redcliffe?

He's been so low key every one has forgotten his name. Also he obviously doesn't have the financial means to appeal and this probably ruined whatever chances he had of any sort of a career.

So Couple of things on the Matt Lodge comparison; As Barry pointed out; Lodge - charged in 2015. Sacked by club shortly after Found guilty in December 2016 First game with Broncos was 2018 I assume you can see the difference there? Next - The No Faulty Polciy is for players facing criminal charges that carry min 11 year sentances. Matt Lodge was facing a year (one, singular) in jail, JDB is facing 20.... So "if another Lodge" appeared on the scene, the No Fault policy wouldn't be considered as it is not a chrage which carries an 11 year sentence. I look forward to the next irrelevant comparison.

what options would be open to coaches and/or players who perform badly due to one of the stars of the club being out Are you asking, if Sims has a shocking season, does he have a case against the NRL because he couldn't play that well because JDB is sidelined? Nothing, while it is a team sport, the individual signed a contract to play their best football irrespective of who is beside them. You play badly, you get dropped. There is no compo for that. Same applies to the coach. Example, look at who the Storm have lost in recent years yet look at their ladder position. Easts were still winning when Cronk was sidelined, and Keary for that matter. Souths have learned to spend half a season without Sam but they still go ok. Using JBD in that scenario is an excuse not a reason. I do not think people will be focusing on this player or that player after a while. Mate Lodge still get boo'd and he has served the sentence handed down to him. I don't want to go point by point but this one is the most pertinent. I took my 6yo down to training for the first time this year. A few weeks in the Broncos sent Lodge and Turpin down to have a run around with the kids and they loved it even if the younger ones didn't really know who they were - just Broncos players. My misses is from Melbourne and couldn't care less about sport, let alone league. I had to explain to her the history of Lodge plus what he has done to better himself. I even included the fact some players have been wrongly accused but no rational person hangs their hat on that. That was a failed argument and she is right. I respect innocent until proven guilty but he hasn't had his day yet. Try explain to your better half the guy getting boo'd relentlessly is up on those charges but still playing on prime time TV. That is a difficult chat. Now extrapolate that by every passer-by, mother, wannabe SJW, any other code supporter or even an inch moral fibre and you lose. Was it rushed and poorly handled - 100%. Are their intentions wrong - no way. The game is bigger then any one person. The NRL, like any organisation, have the right to stand aside any employee who has been accused of something as bad as this this until it is settled.

I agree with everything you are saying here and have been saying the same sort of thing. Imagine if Lodge was refused entry back into the NRL and took it to court a couple of years back. People would be saying exactly the same thing about the impact it would have on the game. Sponsorship's would be lost , game day would be all about this violent and guilty criminal and they couldn't let him back in. It's one thing to have a policy but it's another thing to make up stories about the impact if it isn't implemented. Stewart and Lodge are two great examples of what happens when players are allowed to play the game. The greatest myth of all is the notion that he needs to be stood down because you can't have accused rapists in the workplace, It's unworkable they say. He IS in a workplace at Saints NRL club but where are all the dramas that we are told are so certain? I noticed Beatties exit is just before the court case. It could well be coincidence but I also wouldn't be surprised that he's been made aware of the reality of JDB case and is doing the wise thing. Just a wild guess on my behalf I admit but lets see.

That is a fair point - you would hope that they take that into account in any decision.

"The other guy charged has been very quiet, guess if you’re a low profile player the media doesn’t care." No they don't. But one who lives by a media sword can hardly lament his death by it.

So you are telling me the NRL know of the impacts of having Brett Stewart play on despite being charged but are they keeping it secret, I wouldn't mind seeing it. Maybe they'll be asked that question if the players association takes them to court. If the impact was that great why aren't they talking about it because it clearly helps their case? It's obvious that for all sorts of reasons that some players should pull their heads in but all the same headlines will happen if a player is charged next off season and the fact the player won't be able to play is greatly over rated as it's been shown in the past. The no fault stand down thing has a massive impact on innocent players and clubs for minimal gain to the game as a whole but that is no concern of yours because it's not happening to you. You are entitled to that view.

Straw man to say this is supposed to stop rape.

The coach aspect is a reach as his performance should only be judged by the talent on hand. Not saying it's true that they are judged that objectively, but the core issue there isn't the stand down it is the ineffective process for assessing coaches. Basically that's asking the NRL to compensate coaches for board ineffectiveness.