Turner and Agar leave the Aussie middle order weak

By Ronan O'Connell / Expert

Australia’s ODI top five may be in great shape but they need to overhaul their middle-to-lower-order ahead of six upcoming matches against South Africa and New Zealand.

Rejigging their side after the 2019 World Cup, Australia experimented with Ashton Turner at six and bowling all-rounder Ashton Agar at seven as they lost 1-2 in India this past week.

Their batting line-up has a terrific core thanks to the scorching long-term form of Aaron Finch and David Warner, Steve Smith’s awesome record at first drop, Marnus Labuschagne’s smooth transition to ODIs and Alex Carey’s versatility.

That top five has everything Australia needs – experience, skill against pace and spin, good running between the wickets and a nice balance of power and deft touch.

Finch and Warner give Australia intimidating hitting power up top, Smith and Labuschagne accumulate neatly against all styles of bowling and Carey can bat at a number of different tempos.

That is a group which should, more often than not, provide a nice platform from which numbers six, seven and eight can launch. The problem for Australia lies with the six-seven combination of Turner and Agar. If I wanted to be generous I would describe that duo as unproven with the bat.

Asked to be blunt, I’d say they’re patently inadequate.

In the series decider, Australia built a great launching pad for that duo – they were on 231, with 50 balls remaining, and Smith unbeaten on 98, when Turner came to the crease.

The West Aussie was scratchy from the get-go and Agar after him never looked likely to do any damage. Combined they made just 15 from 23 balls at the death, striking not even one boundary. In the previous match, the two Ashtons both came to the middle in the final ten overs and once more couldn’t score at the swift rate required, combining to make 38 from 40 balls.

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Now, it should be said that I have time for both of these cricketers. Agar would be in my starting XI for this year’s T20 World Cup, and I’d also give him strong consideration for the upcoming Test tour of Bangladesh, where he played well last time around.

But he remains clearly a better bowler than batsman and simply does not have the power-hitting ability required of an ODI number seven. He is being played out of position. As a number eight, Agar is handy. As a number seven, he leaves Australia unbalanced.

The left-arm spinner bowled well in two of the three ODIs against India and could come into the frame for the next World Cup, which will be held in India. But in the future should be played as a bowler, not at number seven.

When Australia won their last World Cup, they had a six-seven-eight combination that bulged with power – Glenn Maxwell, Brad Haddin and James Faulkner. The fact Australia’s current ODI tail is so weak is another reason they cannot afford the luxury of Agar at seven.

Pat Cummins and Mitchell Starc might be fine lower-order batsmen in Test cricket but are consistently misrepresented as handy tail-enders in ODIs. In reality, they both offer very little, averaging 9 and 12 with the bat, respectively, across their long ODI careers.

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Cummins is a number 11 standard batsman in ODIs yet bats at eight for Australia. Not only does he average just 9 with the bat, but his career scoring rate is glacial at 4.3 runs per over.

Now, I’m not having a crack at Cummins, his role is to bowl and bowl well. My point is the very fragile state of Australia’s batting from 8-11 means there’s no room for experimentation at six and seven.

Turner played a truly extraordinary, match-winning ODI innings in Mohali last year. He displayed in that innings the qualities Australia need in an ODI number six – composure, destructive power and a wide range of strokes.

Since then, however, Turner has laboured badly across all formats. In that time he has averaged 21 with the bat in List A cricket, 14 in T20 cricket and just 3.5 in this summer’s Sheffield Shield.

While Turner is floundering at domestic level, no matter what the format, it is a huge task for him to shine in international cricket against a powerhouse side like India.

That leap from domestic to international level is heinously difficult to make at the best of times, let alone for a player who is patently out of form. Let Turner return to the Big Bash League and Shield to see if he can regain some touch.

It would be folly to send him to South Africa and then New Zealand next month for the six ODIs and three T20Is scheduled across those two tours.

The Crowd Says:

2020-01-24T22:01:00+00:00

Mr Right

Roar Rookie


So you would have Cummins batting in @ 7 ?

2020-01-23T01:00:50+00:00

Gary

Guest


Agree with the overall view. I would go: 6. Short 7. Maxwell Spinner - choose between Zampa or Agar as Maxwell can also bowl some overs Need Jhye Richardson in the team for either Starc or K Richardson

2020-01-22T23:01:59+00:00

Anon

Guest


Marty wade continues to be the cleanest striker of a ball since Gilchrist. He would be my number 4 Finch Warner Smith Wade maxwell Stoinus Marsh Carey Cummins Hazelwood Zampa

2020-01-22T20:51:25+00:00

Ropes

Roar Rookie


Stoinis and Maxwell 1. They are very handy bowlers 2. Phenomenal with the bat in hand Agar got hit on the pads more times than he struck the ball. I was beginning to think he was transitioning from cricket to hockey keeper.

2020-01-22T19:33:01+00:00

jameswm

Roar Guru


No I’m talking only the quicks. Keep Zampa.

2020-01-22T19:13:41+00:00

Mr Right

Roar Rookie


Are you replacing Zampa with J Richardson? Would you not have a full time spinner in the side?

2020-01-22T17:53:37+00:00

Paul

Guest


Really good questions. But you provided no alternatives? What would you do?

2020-01-22T12:22:15+00:00

Macca

Guest


Don't mess with the top 4. Maxwell, M. Marsh & Carey at 5, 6 & 7 but the order is debatable. Starc, Cummins, Zampa & Hazlewood. Bench: Short Kane Richardson Cameron Boyce just to create debate

2020-01-22T11:43:05+00:00

Mr Right

Roar Rookie


Too early to be picking the next world cup team now. No need to be naming names, but if our both our current openers aren't performing in 2 years’ time, I would experiment with a power hitter to replace one of them. Short, Lynn, Stounis etc. I am happy enough for Cummins to be coming in at 8 as long as the top seven are regularly getting the job done. Maxwell, Marsh & Carey would be a nice luxury to have in the middle order if they are performing at that point in the future.

2020-01-22T01:49:18+00:00

Mark

Guest


Maxwell was suffering depression when the side was selected. So he was out of concideration

2020-01-22T01:06:45+00:00

Peter Hovey

Guest


It seems to me that Langer does not like Glen Maxwell. He has the X Factor and I cannot understand how they can leave him out of the team. Also if Stoines can get fit enough to bowl he should replace Agar.

2020-01-22T00:32:04+00:00

jamesb

Roar Guru


Our middle order should be Maxi at 5 and M.Marsh at 6. The only format I'd select Agar would be twenty/20. Still need to unearth a dangerous number eight. In time, could that be Cameron Green?

2020-01-21T22:03:29+00:00

TheGeneral

Roar Rookie


Worth a try though. We "experts" have far better ideas than the selectors.

2020-01-21T13:52:57+00:00

Sgt Pepperoni

Roar Rookie


Setting up the cardboard polling stations before each game would be a nightmare

2020-01-21T13:48:52+00:00

Sgt Pepperoni

Roar Rookie


I'll go

2020-01-21T13:29:58+00:00

Robert

Guest


Darcy Short at 6 or 7

2020-01-21T13:26:32+00:00

Robert Marks

Guest


What about Darcy Short went to India but never got a bat he would make the middle order position he’s own

2020-01-21T11:00:34+00:00

HR

Roar Rookie


I figured that he didn't last long enough against England for his low strike rate to matter much - you're right that in a broader sense it wasn't a great innings, and presaged his poor returns in the Ashes that followed.

2020-01-21T10:40:44+00:00

Nick

Roar Guru


Yup.

2020-01-21T10:40:29+00:00

Nick

Roar Guru


He's not a good batsman He has good days, and a better technique then the usual tailender, but that's it. He's much like Broad in the days before he got scared. No better than that. He could be a world class bowler if he just concentrated on that

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