Six Nations: What have we learnt so far?

By Armchair Halfback / Roar Rookie

While the new-world Rugby Championship may boast eight World Cup titles between its four participating teams, the Six Nations carries the old-world romance.

All away venues can be reached within a couple of hours’ travel, supporters from both sides fraternise in city pubs before and after games, and the most demanding task on the travel roster is a weekend in Rome.

The first two rounds of the Six Nations has thrown up plenty of surprises, with four new coaches and a new generation of exciting talent on show.

England

What’s going well?
England did well in deplorable conditions at Murrayfield over the weekend. Their pack is industrious and workmanlike with Sam Underhill a standout against Scotland and Jonny May tearing it up along the wing on the verdant fields of St Denis, Paris. Even without Manu Tuilagi and Billy Vunipola, England should have the firepower to account for Ireland when they meet at Twickers in two weeks’ time.

Challenges
Eddie Jones has made some interesting selection choices. I’m not sure if fullback George Furbank is Test match material, Willi Heinz struggled in the Murrayfield morass and I’ve questioned Jones’ decision to pick Tom Curry at number eight at the exclusion of the rampaging Alex Dombrandt.

(Photo by Stu Forster/Getty Images)

France

What’s going well?
New coach Fabien Galthie has managed to do a remarkable thing: identify France’s best players and start moulding them into a team. The back line is perhaps their best in a decade with stars like Teddy Thomas and Gael Fickou complementing talented new blood like Arthur Vincent and Anthony Bouthier. Antoine Dupont is maturing into a world-class scrum half and France have a back row of the highest calibre. Shaun Edwards’ defence template is evident in France’s defensive work rate.

Challenges
The French need to be aware of falling back into old shambolic patterns. In both games the French took the lead and then let the opposition back into the game. The French lineout misfired against both England and Italy. There may be an over-reliance on the back of the lineout, which makes throwing more difficult.

Ireland

What’s going well?
Ireland were very good against Wales, stepping up from their Scotland outing. Jordan Larmour looks to have nailed the fullback jersey and Andrew Conway was simply excellent on the wing, where his speed, tenacity and work off the ball is a great asset. Let go by Leinster early in his career, Conway fully deserves his chance in the Ireland starting side. Up front, CJ Stander has been immense, as has Tadhg Furlong. They both played a large role in Ireland’s forward dominance against Wales.

Challenges
Their first outing against Scotland was an exercise in winning ugly. The Irish pack struggled against an unheralded Scottish front row and Conor Murray kicked away too much possession. Ireland’s high penalty and missed tackles counts will be punished by better teams, unless Andy Farrell can come up with a fix quickly.

(Photo By Brendan Moran/Sportsfile via Getty Images)

Italy

What’s going well?
Italy acquitted themselves well again France. They have some excellent players like Jake Polledri, Matteo Minozzi and scrum half Callum Braley. Against France they played some very good rugby.

Challenges
The sheer challenge of losing so many games. Italy haven’t won a Six Nations game since 2015. While their pack is competent and workmanlike, they lack power to dominate in the forwards and need some extra invention in the backs.

Scotland

What’s going well?
Scotland were still in the game with ten minutes to go in the Murrayfield deluge. The Scotland pack also dominated against Ireland at the Aviva Stadium in Dublin. Transplanted Queenslander Sam Johnson has been an honest performer at inside centre as has giant winger Blair Kinghorn.

Challenges
Dear old Hoggy is one of my favourite players in Europe, but a ball dropped over the Irish try line in Dublin and a ball dropped over his own try line against England have made for a heartbreaking start to the Six Nations for the great Stuart Hogg. Scotland also seem to miss the flair and inventiveness of Finn Russell and are tryless so far in the competition.

Wales

What’s going well?
The Welsh scrum did well against Ireland in the first half and the evergreen Alun Wyn Jones continues to excel. The 9-10-12 axis of Gareth Davies, Dan Biggar and Hadleigh Parkes may be the best in the comp. The Welsh offloading game was excellent with 13 offloads in their game against Ireland. Josh Adams’ hat trick against Italy augmented his reputation as a quality finisher.

Challenges
George North and Taulupe Faletau were both very quiet against Ireland with North subbed early in the second half. Wales seem to miss Josh Navidi’s dynamism and work rate and I would pick Ross Moriarty ahead of Faletau. Wales seemed to struggle with the physicality of the Irish pack in key defensive passages of the game in Dublin.

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2020-02-15T06:07:07+00:00

Armchair Halfback

Roar Rookie


Thanks Henry. I should say I never played halfback! Slightly off topic, I much prefer the peer interactions on the Roar to The42, the general tone on the Roar is respectful, even friendly. I divulge my name in my profile blurb as AH is just a bit of fun. Cheers BJ

2020-02-14T10:02:58+00:00

HenryHoneyBalls

Guest


Ha no, Henry isn't my real name but I know exactly who you are thinking of.

AUTHOR

2020-02-13T19:59:20+00:00

Armchair Halfback

Roar Rookie


Thanks Henry. Did you play hooker for Connacht?

2020-02-13T09:45:12+00:00

HenryHoneyBalls

Guest


Thanks Armchair, don't let the name fool you I am Irish too and an OC like you. I do know that most people see POM as a 6 but I have never really thought he is physical enough. His greatest strength is in the lineout and maybe at the breakdown at poaching (not traditional 6 stuff). Would prefer a 6 who dominates the collision zones, clears out rucks and gets over the gainline much more like Stander and Ferris used to.

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2020-02-12T21:52:25+00:00

Armchair Halfback

Roar Rookie


Thanks Henry. Yes Caelan Doris has been excellent for Leinster this year and it's a pity he got injured so early in his Ireland debut game. In Ireland we would regard O'Mahony and Stander as a traditional blind side flankers, just Stander can flex a bit! With everyone fit, the Ireland back row would likely be CJ Stander, Dan Leavy and Jack Conan...

2020-02-12T13:43:49+00:00

HenryHoneyBalls

Guest


Yes Stander is playing well but he is not an 8. He is an excellent bulldozer of a six so was really disappointed when Caelan Doris who is a natural 8 and great ball player went off injured in the first game. Dont like the back row balance with O'Mahony at 6 (not a six) and Stander at 8.

2020-02-12T12:10:14+00:00

HenryHoneyBalls

Guest


I also thought Sexton was over petulant. I am watching the Villa Gesel rugby murder trial in Argentina with interest. Something similar famously happened in Ireland about 20 years ago.

2020-02-12T12:06:29+00:00

HenryHoneyBalls

Guest


Surprised to see Clongowes mentioned on this site. I also went to school there.

AUTHOR

2020-02-12T07:39:15+00:00

Armchair Halfback

Roar Rookie


Thanks Harry. CJ Stander may be n the form of his life. If a British & Lions team was picked today Stander would be one of the first picked. Yes I saw Serin’s try, it was excellent, great skill, if Cooney can do likewise off the bench for Ireland just as he’s done for Ulster on a number of occasions to would be awesome.

2020-02-12T05:38:12+00:00

Harry Selassie

Roar Rookie


Ireland played against Wales with the tenacity of 2018. CJ Stander with another exceptional game on both sides of the ball while Conor Murray played well at 9 as he feels the pressure from John Cooney and Johnny Sexton also looked the part too. Wales may not have the balance of last year, at least currently with their injuries, but they are always difficult to play and it needed a very focused and tenacious Ireland to win. On to Twickenham in a fortnight for what potentially could be a title decider between England & Ireland. France have their moments of lack of concentration but they sure are an enjoyable team to watch. I suggest looking up Baptiste Serin's late try. And again Gregory Alldritt, France's 8 was superb and like Stander has been his team's man of the match in each of their wins. France are fun to watch, especially Dupont and Ntamack. As for England's win over Scotland. I think the weather conditions, which were awful, gives them a pass. But Stuart Hogg, for all the good work he delivers, again made a costly mistake which likely cost his team the win.

2020-02-12T04:39:38+00:00

Derm

Roar Guru


He was neither of those things, Carlos if you listen to what he actually said. He was quite astute in how he related to the ref, particularly around a couple of key decisions on the breakdown, involving Stander, who might otherwise have been carded sooner.

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2020-02-12T03:50:16+00:00

Armchair Halfback

Roar Rookie


Johnny Sexton petulant? Never! :laughing:

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2020-02-12T01:49:21+00:00

Armchair Halfback

Roar Rookie


Thanks Derm, We live in hope if not expectation! Here's my stats source for Eng v Irl. Just the one win in Twickers since our 2010 win according to Statsguru: http://www.espnscrum.com/statsguru/rugby/team/3.html?class=1;opposition=1;spanmin1=1+Jan+2011;spanval1=span;template=results;type=team;view=results

2020-02-11T22:57:23+00:00

Carlos the Argie

Roar Guru


I actually thought Sexton was a bit over the top with the referee the last game. With a more impatient ref he would have gotten into trouble. He came across as whiny and petulant.

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2020-02-11T22:35:25+00:00

Armchair Halfback

Roar Rookie


Thanks Derm, some great insight there! The main issue for France is playing for 80 minutes, against Italy they played brilliantly and then hit the off switch for most of the 2nd half. Re Ireland It would be good to see McCloskey get another run as he's added a few more strings to his bow. Also I think Will Connors will be excellent at test level, where he has size and an appetite for defence.

2020-02-11T19:13:52+00:00

Derm

Roar Guru


Not sure what you're describing as the last decade but since 2010, Ireland and England have played each other 10 times in the 6N and won 5 matches apiece, with both teams winning three at home and two away. Ireland are 11-9 overall in the head-to-head in the Six Nations. I agree about over-confidence, but I also recognise which team will be likely turning up with more confidence and momentum at Twickenham.

2020-02-11T18:34:39+00:00

Derm

Roar Guru


That may well come to pass. Oddly, they've started better than expected - mostly with their own fans. Across the three Six Nations tournaments - Mens, Women's and U20s, - Ireland have played six and won six. That's only to be expected some might rightly say - at home to only Scotland and Wales so far. But there were some glimpses in the Wales game that Catt - now in charge of the backline - has loosened the restrictive shackles of the Schmidt-know-the-playbook-and-your-role-off-by-heart-cos-there'll-be-questions-later regime with the back three allowed to roam and attack more freely. Equally, Fogarty and Easterby have been working with the pack and giving a different license to the backrowers to increase their carries and metres made - oh and offload too! It's unfortunate that Ireland lost Caelan Doris, their new number 8, to a HIA in the opening minutes of the first test, but Stander certainly rises to a challenge to his test place. And so has O'Mahony with the ferocity and intensity of the Munster duo's combined play. Furlong, has indeed, seemed to regain some of his form and confidence under the eye of his familiar last-season Leinster scrum coach, John Fogarty. Garry Ringrose is out with an injury until Round 4, but Henshaw seemed to revel in a return to the 13 shirt alongside his old mucker, Aki, from their Connacht playing days. And, so far, Sexton seems to be enjoying getting the captaincy for the Six Nations campaign with excellent game management on display in the Wales test. Farrell knows he needs to give more game time to the newbies, Kelleher (hooker), Deegan and O'Donoghue in the backrow, Cooney and Byrne at half-backs, and Chris Farrell and McCloskey in midfield, if he wants to start developing further depth and wider selections for the July tour to Oz. Oh - and Robert Baloucoune on the wing, who looks like he might enjoy the dry tracks down under with his turn of speed. At this stage, I'd put France in the favourite's seat, (the bookies have them third) with the outcome of the Eng/Irl match in Twickenham in Round 3 determining whether Les Bleus will be playing Ireland for a winner-takes-all Grand Slam title in the grand finale match of the tournament next month. All we need now is for Stockdale to start scoring tries again instead of leaving it to Larmour and Conway.

2020-02-11T10:55:34+00:00

Mitcho

Guest


They seemed to be a brain explosion away from beating some pretty good welsh. Surely the French are back in business

2020-02-11T06:41:17+00:00

mzilikazi

Roar Pro


"this one definitely their best in about a decade. " Yes, agree with that. Might take a while to really develop this team fully, but they now have home grown class players coming through, to add to the imports....good balance.

2020-02-11T05:29:40+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


I probably do have a few viruses, too. The worst affected seems to be Owen, though. Which makes sense.

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