Know when to hold 'em, know when to walk away

By Rob9 / Roar Guru

Earlier this week I wrote an article about the possibilities for Australian rugby in a solo post-COVID-19 world.

Having these ideas floating around in my head for a while, it was a therapeutic process to go through putting it all down on paper (screen) following a press conference over the ditch last Friday that represented a slap in the face to Australia’s rugby interests at best.

As I alluded to in the original article, I still believe what I put forward is a fall-back position when all else fails in attempting to bring something together with our Anzac allies. Although it feels like we’re creeping towards that point in the breakup where all the cards have been put on the table and there’s little common ground to be found, the dust has settled since we heard from Mark Robinson, and it’s time to pull those few cards that we’ve had tucked up the sleeve to see if something can be salvaged.

It’s well documented that Rugby Australia’s collision course with New Zealand Rugby has been based around our desire to carry a professional footprint represented by our four Super Rugby clubs and a Twiggy-backed Force – a strategy I wholeheartedly support – while NZR wants to limit Australia’s involvement to funnel our talent pool into fewer teams to ensure their competitiveness.

So just before the point of impact and no return, here are a few ideas to be thrown into the mix that attempt to appease the interests of both parties.

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Bring down the wall
Everyone who knows rugby knows about the great wall of Tasman – a wall running the length of a long white cloud, about 200 kilometres off New Zealand’s coast that traps any rugby talent heading to the West Island. Sometimes some players make it over the wall somehow. Mike Harris was one and his image now hangs in New Zealand’s national gallery of public shame along with portraits of Phar Lap, Pavlova, Russell Crowe and other entities to have turned that back on Aotearoa.

This strategy is the most obvious and represents my personal favourite – dismantle that wall and allow free player movement between our two countries.

The first layer of extra detail required here is the signing of a memorandum of understanding between RA and the NZR that states that any Kiwi player who signs for an Australian team after the age of 18 will be off the Wallabies selection table. This is an important protection to appease New Zealand’s (justified) concerns that free player movements between our countries will result in the Wallabies effectively transforming into a team of Mike Harrises.

Unfortunately that’s only the first hurdle to clear in bringing this strategy together, with New Zealand allocating significant value to alignment and control of their system. This suggests that Kiwi players playing in their competition but outside of their system might not be a favourable option for them.

The quick counter to this is selling the benefits of increasing their pool of talent that’s playing professionally and within the same competition as NZ to pick the All Blacks from. If players were allowed to move between countries without restriction, as is the case in almost every sporting competition in the world, we could expect anywhere between a team or two of New Zealand talent to flood Australia’s shores.

I certainly don’t think it’s a compromised scenario for the NZR to have their five New Zealand-based teams to pick from along with up to another two teams of players – whose ‘domestic’ wages they don’t have to pay – playing in the same competition.

Anyway, it’s their call, and although there doesn’t seem to be the appetite, it’s the first card worth playing while pushing the benefits they can expect to receive under such an arrangement.

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Twiggy’s plaything
Relations between the white knight from the west and Rugby Australia have thawed recently, and it comes at a time when his open chequebook could certainly come in handy.

Andrew Forrest’s commitment to the Force and the growth of rugby in Western Australia has been unwavering and RA has to latch on to that stability, passion and trust. One possibility to get the NZR’s buy-in for our five teams is to sit down with Twiggy as the benefactor of the Force and negotiate some terms for the establishment and ongoing upkeep of his team list.

Firstly, at the core of the Force’s recruitment policy is their need to be the ‘pathway’ for homegrown talent. They get first dibs on every WA product, which they can forfeit on a case-by-case basis. Then beyond that I’d be breaking the shackles and give Twiggy and his fat bank account free rein to attract whoever he can to Perth with one small exception: all east coast talent (90 per cent of Australia’s rugby talent) is reserved for the four RA-backed teams.

There would be one small exception to this: he can go after any Australian player originating from either coast who has been overseas for two or more years. We obviously want to keep and/or bring back our talent to our shores, and this could be one way to help achieve that. The Force have already brought back a few former Wallabies for Super Rugby AU; it’d be great to see a couple more both for the benefit of a competitive league and the depth available for Wallabies selection.

So the result of all of this is almost all of Australia’s talent being funnelled into our four east coast teams while the Force are a competitive mix of homegrown talent, ex-Wallabies and other internationals who will certainly be able to hold their own in such a competition.

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Other friends in need
Now we’re starting to get into the more obscure ideas. This one involves each of our five teams forming a partnership with a national union that might also need a little help at the moment. These partnerships involve each of our teams holding seven spots for their national partner who will send us their seven best players who haven’t been picked off by northern hemisphere clubs.

The first thing worth mentioning here is that a professional rugby player isn’t exactly a stable career at the moment, especially for those who come from countries that don’t have an established national league. So I’d suspect there should be a decent depth of talent in many of the places our teams should be looking build partnerships with.

And who should we be targeting on that front? Well, I think with the Jaguares demise and in the absence of a professional competition, Argentina would be the first to approach.

Then the three island nations are also in the no-brainer category. Forget the romantics of a Pacifika team. If NZR and RA want to really make a difference in the Pacific Islands, they should create a pathway to embed their players in our systems without these unions poaching them for their national teams.

The last choice is a tricky one but I’ve gone with South Africa due to the fact it looks like their four Super Rugby teams will replace as opposed to join the two that went to the Pro14 last year. Another Jacques Potgieter (or seven of them) making a splash on the Australian rugby scene would be great. Although South Africa has a professional footprint and represents one of the game’s powerhouses, I’m sure Super Rugby AU would appreciate the opportunity to have seven of their players playing together in a high-standard league who go into the pool with the players from their four Pro16 teams for Boks selection. I think the Force would be a logical fit for this partnership.

So the result of this strategy is a squad worth of south hemisphere talent that will help plug some holes in our five teams and bring up the overall standard of what they can offer.

The Hail Mary
Finally we have the long shot. At the root of our impasse is a desire for a competitive, unpredictable and exciting concept – worthy aspirations despite the questionable methods NZR have employed to attain them. Well, instead of Australia cutting teams to achieve this, why doesn’t New Zealand add them? Of course that’s a rhetorical question, and just to be crystal clear, given New Zealand’s population and the need to stay within a ballpark or two of the salaries on offer in Europe, five teams is their best fit too.

But it’s worth remembering New Zealand increasing their number of teams has been bandied about as a possibility ever since the pandemic hit, and there’s every reason to think that’s what they’ll need to if Australia decides to go it alone.

Taranaki, Bay of Plenty and Hawkes Bay are regions that could potentially justify the step up to a fully professional tier, with some of them previously expressing interest in being considered as an expansion option.

If two of these were added to New Zealand’s five, their talent being stretched across another two squads would certainly start to bring them back to Australia’s chasing pack.

As mentioned, I’m sure it would start to stretch NZR’s finances beyond their most efficient model, but that tribal element that has been desperately missing from Super Rugby in recent times would be back with a vengeance.

So there they are. The last few chips to throw in the pot to make it as juicy as possible for the NZR to accept all of our five. If not, that’s when it really is time to leave our seat and, as suggested earlier in the week, turn Super Rugby AU to gold.

What do you think, Roarers? Is one of these ideas enough to get NZR to play ball, or is there something else that might be an even better chance at getting them over the line?

The Crowd Says:

2020-07-27T08:24:00+00:00

ThugbyFan

Roar Guru


Jeznez, Pretty much agree that TPN was a great warrior for TNT (Them Noble Tahs). Great to read the list of players you put there, everyone of them brings a memory or two (most are good! :silly: ). As a GREAT aside, TPN is back in Sydney playing Shute shield. There is a fab story on the RA site https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/07/27/shute-shield-two-blues-tatafu-polota-nau-sideline of him playing 4th grade on the weekend for his club Western Sydney Two Blues. Mind you I think their 1st grade could have used him as they got flogged 0-64 at Chatswood. And if you ever suspected that the man has rugby juices in his blood, then Saturday is proof. TPN's game was at 10:50 am on Saturday. He volunteered to be linesman for the 4:50pm Women's match. Cold and wet, no spectators, no glory but he fronted up. Two Blues play against the pretty boys Randwick at Lidcombe ovel on 1st Aug. Almost worth a drive just to see TPN. (I think I watched Wests RL side there about 1973). Good beer and food stalls but a terrible ground for 1st grade footy.

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2020-07-26T09:34:45+00:00

Rob9

Roar Guru


No, I wouldn’t. I’d be leaving some weeks up our sleeve to explore a Champions League style tournament with old partners and emerging countries/leagues like Japan and the MLR. In the absence of that, sure go full home and away.

2020-07-26T09:24:13+00:00

Micko

Roar Rookie


Because the NZRU would presumably rest players and thus devalue the comp with a hypothetical 18 game comp, like they do with the long winded current SR. Less is more Jacko. Like the Six Nations, just have one game against each opponent, if both just want that ladder leader takes all, so be it. If both want finals then have a top 4,5,6 finals system.

2020-07-26T08:59:57+00:00

Micko

Roar Rookie


I'm a West Aussie who supports the wallabies and watches the internationals. We've been through this before Jacko. My point is the pro comp doesn't appeal because it's designed deliberately NOT to be the best product it can be! :shocked: This backwards parochial mentality is killing the pro game here. We lock out the PI's, and instead of getting Argentinians here, we ban foreigners and THEN decide to setup franchises in Argentina & Japan! :shocked: A comp that's already long winded enough by having far flung teams involving long travel and weird viewing hours between Aus, NZ & SA has got even worse. No wonder it's been dying a slow death Jacko. It was probably ok for the first decade, but then SANZAR along with the national bodies should've come up with a better model to properly embrace professionalism.

2020-07-26T08:59:24+00:00

Jacko

Guest


Rob surely with a 10 team comp you play each other twice in a season. Why go back to a situation where the ladder is a false read on the quality of a team? The Blues have won 13 of the last 16 games v Aus franchises yet Aus franchises have made the finals and the Blues havnt due to having to play NZ sides more times than Aus sides do.....That is part of the anger at the old SR system which was due to end this year and revert back to a round robin tournament

2020-07-26T08:45:25+00:00

Jacko

Guest


Micko firstly if you are not in to union why are you on this forum? Secondly if Barrett and Retallick are playing for the Force then they are not playing for the Blues or Chiefs so are lost to NZ domestic rugby.....Can you think of any comp in the world that is good for the country that runs the comp when its open to anyone? To me the EPL is one of the best comps that has any talent from anywhere and England soccer hasnt won anything of note ( maybe a Euro comp ) for years and the clubs make no profit ever....So I dont see it being a success as we dont have the Private investors in this part of the world and if we did then the clubs would quickly become the rulers in TT rugby like they are in the UK. NZ and Aus make tests a priority because tests bring in the most money for the govenring body and clubs do nothing but cost money. I appreciate that you are wanting the club scene to be strong and self sufficient but its not the pinnicle of the sport...

2020-07-26T03:38:15+00:00

Rugbynutter

Roar Rookie


It is rubbish about NZ not wanting to add more teams to dilute the quality as more a case of financial sustainability as a country of only 5 million people and GDP a fraction of Australia

2020-07-26T03:36:35+00:00

Rugbynutter

Roar Rookie


Huh this is talking about partnering with super rugby type competition with NZ - Bledisloe matches are fine. RA's mistake would be relying on NZ or other SANZAAR partners for its future as clearly that to date has been disasterous with its past super rugby foray with NZ and other SANZAAR partners

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2020-07-26T01:29:26+00:00

Rob9

Roar Guru


And RA are planning with their best interests in mind (finally) when telling NZR that ‘they’re dreaming’ if they want to engage us but put caps on our involvement. Hopefully we’re able to come up with something as close as possible to the ‘right model’ and the next 18 months will show what a more domesticated approach to rugby in the South Hemisphere can achieve (although it may be a challenging environment to do so)- highlighting the fact that a move back to the pre-Covid disarster would be akin to pulling the trigger above ones foot.

2020-07-26T01:06:17+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


The invites would be for those teams to play in the comp on the basis you have been saying that it is a one year deal. Those teams do not have a competition to play in. This would be an invitation to base themselves in Oz and play a comp here in 2021 if it is something they would like. The beauty is that inviting these stand alone teams in is almost the opposite of asking us to kill a couple of our teams in order that our others can participate.

2020-07-26T01:03:47+00:00

fiwiboy7042

Roar Rookie


(formerly allblackfan) You know there can't be a new competition aas it stands, right? Super Rugby is good for another 5 years or so. If RA feels they can't partner with NZ, fine! That sentiment extend to the Bledisloe as well, I take it? Get rid of the Cup series? As it stands, NZ Rugby stands to make the fastest post-COVID revival this year. It's position is strengthening while a post-Folau RA seems determined to repeat its mistakes by chasing Joseph Suaalii.

2020-07-26T00:52:20+00:00

fiwiboy7042

Roar Rookie


(Formerly allblackfan) Sunwolves are no more. Their times was up this season even before COVID-19 struck. Jaguares are too far away for Australia; Drua are an option. And again I point this out -- the Aratipu review is a NZ Rugby review. Of course, they'd insist on keeping all their teams. And the Kiwis aren't dreaming; they're planning. For 2021. In 2022 (hopefully) the Super Rugby status quo should be restored.

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2020-07-26T00:25:27+00:00

Rob9

Roar Guru


Cheers Rich, thanks for reading.

2020-07-25T23:03:21+00:00

Rich1234

Roar Rookie


Thank you for posting Rob

2020-07-25T11:34:50+00:00

Micko

Roar Rookie


There wouldn't professional rugby union here without Murdoch!

2020-07-25T11:33:22+00:00

Micko

Roar Rookie


There was no other money coming in for the sport. Who else was going to pay the millions to broadcast this sport in Australia, NZ etc?

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2020-07-25T10:20:27+00:00

Rob9

Roar Guru


Of course Super Rugby has been on the nose for some time. That’s why we’re in this mess to begin with effectively. But you’re going a long way up the inference ladder to point at Super Rugby ratings to justify that NZ don’t want Australian involvement (whether it be 1 to 5 teams). That’s what these strategies target, increasing the competitiveness of 5 Australian teams. To suggest that they won’t be competitive under any of these conditions is your opinion. NZ players being able to play for Australian teams and remain eligible for the AB’s may not ever fly. I said as much in the article. But that was one of 4 options to establish a competitive Trans Tasman concept. If it’s not one of the 4 that attempt to appease both parties, then you’re spot on- we go our separate ways.

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2020-07-25T10:05:31+00:00

Rob9

Roar Guru


Depends what you believe the question is I suppose. My interpretation of that is: ‘how to move forward with a Trans Tasman model that’s competitive and involves 5 Australian teams’? Eg. How do you do you build something that appeases both RA and NZR? If you’ve got another solution that fits this criteria- I’m all ears.

2020-07-25T07:17:28+00:00

allblackfan

Guest


Fox also pay NZ Rugby for their Mitre 10 rights.

2020-07-25T07:06:33+00:00

Greasegun

Roar Rookie


This one doesn’t.

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