The pub test: What is actually plausible for 2021?

By Brett McKay / Expert

Once upon a time, not that long ago in fact, it was sites like this one and others that were the domain of theoretical new rugby competition formats.

Well-thought or far-fetched, they were all tossed up and discussed and argued over and forgotten about and rinsed and repeated.

But in the ultimate case of life imitating art, it’s now not just rugby fans in this neck of the woods tossing up competition format ideas for discussion.

In what feels like an absolutely crazy notion, rugby fans have in recent weeks been joined at the new format whiteboard of ideas by… rugby administrators!

And like the online forums and social media chat, there are currently a lot of format idea bubbles floating around at the moment. In time, one of them might even be pretty close to the final agreed format.

But what feels right? What ideas pass the pub test?

Of all the thought bubbles and suggestions and ideas and report recommendations, what is actually plausible? And what is extremely doubtful?

Upfront, let me start by saying I still think for next season at least, we’ll end up with a ten-team trans-Tasman competition with five teams on both side of the ditch.

New Zealand Rugby has been playing a strong hand via the trickling of Aratipu report details and recommendations into the media, and they’re absolutely entitled to do that.

Hoskins Sotutu of the Blues. (Photo by Fiona Goodall/Getty Images)

Say what you will about them trying to strong-arm Australian rugby in general, or even their less-than-kosher tactic of approaching Australian teams directly after Rugby Australia had politely declined their offer to cull teams, but NZR are literally only charged with running the game in New Zealand.

But for all of this, a pretty fair and equitable trans-Tasman model remains the most plausible scenario to me, particularly when the broadcasters get involved and start playing around with potential schedules. The prospect of Friday and Saturday night double-headers in fixed timeslots will be mighty attractive to Sky Sport and presumably Fox Sports (yes, I still think Fox will end up with the rights, too).

A fifth game might float around the weekend; Sunday afternoon rugby is always enjoyable, but the prospect of Saturday night triple-headers with a game in Perth will also be enticing.

Once both NZR and RA head down a certain path of their preferred model or models, my gut feeling is that they’ll both eventually work out that a collective is going to be worth more than the sum of its parts.

So yes, that means I do think NZR’s eight-team suggestion is pretty doubtful.

It’s clear Rugby Australia are not entertaining the idea of folding down to two teams, for one thing. I think there is also significant doubt around a whether a brand-new Pasifika team can be created from a blank piece of paper, a proper organisation structure formulated, coaching and medical staff employed, and players contracted all for a February start.

Even the best intended rugby people with the best connections and unlimited backing would see that as a lot to do in six months.

And that’s all before you tackle the issue of where the team will be located and whether they will be a true representation of the Pacific Islands, or essentially a sixth New Zealand (or indeed, Australian) team.

These doubts would make NZR’s ten-team formats similarly doubtful, if they remain intent on the Pasifika outfit being in place for 2021. That said, if the Pasifika plan can’t become reality in the timeframe, then ten teams either side of the Tasman becomes very doable; hence my feeling that this is the most plausible idea going.

What of Australia’s standalone options? Well, I’m doubtful about them too, because it’s pretty clear that RA’s preferred position is to not have to stand alone. They say they will if they have to though, so they’re worth looking at.

Of the options floated, I think the idea of somehow resurrecting the Sunwolves is highly doubtful. Even if you look past the fact that someone will have to pay for them – and why would the Japanese RFU do that for a competition with a quarter of the footprint of the original Super Rugby tournament that COVID-19 may well have killed off for good? – there’s still the small matter of the Top League still planning to run from next January and run through to May so as to be done before the rescheduled Olympics.

Beyond that, plans remain for the new JRFU professional league to begin in January 2022. It’s just really hard to see how – or why – the Sunwolves would contract players and coaches for maybe one season. If the conversation is about a couple of Japanese teams joining Super Rugby (or whatever it will be called in the future), then sure, that has merit. I’m not sure a single Japanese team in an Australian comp makes much sense at all.

What about a team of Argentinean players, based in Australia, then? Nope, similarly doubtful. Again, what would Argentina get from it? And why would the UAR pay for players in a competition played in a terrible time zone for Argentina?

More plausible is the idea of a Fijian side playing in an AU competition, be that a side based in Western Sydney, or a side based in Fiji with suitable travel exemptions and allowances in place.

Could the Fijian Drua be admitted? (Photo by Anthony Au-Yeung/Getty Images)

But it’s only plausible because of the history of the Fijian Drua in the National Rugby Championship. The ‘who pays?’ question remains front and centre, but at least some organisational structure exists.

South Africans? Doubtful. There’s similarly nothing to gain for them playing in Australia either, and their eggs certainly appear to be heading toward a northern hemisphere basket. SA Rugby chief executive Jurie Roux was quoted in the Republic last week as saying, “I wouldn’t be doing my job not to look at plan B or plan C”.

“I’ve been doing that for a long time and there are a few options on the table,” he said.

Already, reporting suggests the Bulls, Lions, Sharks and Stormers are set to replace the Cheetahs and Kings in an expanded PRO16 tournament.

Playing the South African teams in a cross-over finals series? Even more doubtful, especially with the northern and southern hemisphere seasons still out of whack, and it would be even more unlikely down the track if the South African teams were granted access to the European tournaments.

Certainly, there are a lot of ideas floating around. Some of them might land, but many just don’t make sense.

Regardless, it’s been curious to see the competition daydreaming graduating from the fans to the boardroom. Proof perfect that this really had been a year like no other.

The Crowd Says:

2020-08-03T04:51:55+00:00

Sluggy

Roar Guru


It's not the same if it's not live. :rugby:

2020-08-03T04:25:56+00:00

Sluggy

Roar Guru


You are wrong, I have already explained to you that frustrated contracts are terminated, not suspended.

2020-07-29T22:16:49+00:00

The Late News

Roar Rookie


Brett...a subject as important as this one really requires considerable consultation. So with this in mind I have unilaterally decided that this should actually be the Pubs test, and therefore one pub simply will not suffice. It's like a due diligence exercise. The first finding is just how many pubs there are in my town. I am taking extra caution not to turn this into a pub crawl...in case you were becoming concerned. Further reports will be forthcoming. Thank you for your wonderful suggestion by the way!

2020-07-29T11:43:39+00:00

Muglair

Roar Rookie


The biggest problem with two teams in TT is that there is no proven capability that RA could establish a useful, successful and valuable NRC. Ditto three teams which is a step backwards from longer term international success. Hanging in for a 5/5 TT and hoping that NZ runs out of options is the scenario RA is best equipped not to screw up but there is no upside. Will be surprised if this is successful commercially and staggered if it returns the Wallabies to better times. Will be happy to be wrong. Very happy. But not seeing it.

2020-07-29T10:47:57+00:00

Diamond Jackie

Roar Rookie


...walk away. Covid has allowed a re-set. Lets take the opportunity.

2020-07-29T09:33:44+00:00

Broken Shoulder

Roar Rookie


It's good man, just avoid the Thai Rock :thumbup:

2020-07-29T07:56:41+00:00

The Late News

Roar Rookie


cool. Haven't been there in a while.

2020-07-29T07:40:50+00:00

Garry Nairne

Roar Rookie


The sensible thing here would be for world rankings to be susupended, from the end of the last world cup, untill all the world rugby teams are able to compete. I don't know of any national competions that have actually completed. Continuing with rankings would distort the table.

2020-07-29T07:29:15+00:00

Broken Shoulder

Roar Rookie


Another fine day in Sydney my friend.

2020-07-29T04:49:38+00:00

The Late News

Roar Rookie


Awesome! A beautiful day here. How about wherever you are?

2020-07-29T03:54:55+00:00

Broken Shoulder

Roar Rookie


Like manna from heaven.

2020-07-29T02:27:43+00:00

Mark

Guest


No - adding the Force and the Rebels was incredibly dumb Removing the Force was correcting a monumental blunder Aus Rugby is worse off with the Force and the Rebels than without

2020-07-29T02:26:37+00:00

Mark

Guest


Except there has been no growth Adding the Force and the Rebels has caused Aus Rugby to go backwards Alarmingly All that pain and money for less that you started with

2020-07-29T02:08:59+00:00

Mark

Guest


– 2015 expansion of SR to 18 team pushed by NZRU What are you smoking No that was the Jappies and the Convicts - NZ did not want this - never wanted this - but in order to keep the peace and get concessions elsewhere they agreed They only sides whinging about travel where the Jappies - because they are actually extremely soft - which is why they wanted the conference system Aus wanted more teams because O'Neil convinced them Rugby = Retail and therefore More Teams = More Product = More Profit whilst totally failing to understand Sport is nothing like Retail

2020-07-28T23:43:01+00:00

The Late News

Roar Rookie


How did the kebab taste?

2020-07-28T23:41:48+00:00

The Late News

Roar Rookie


Brett...consulted widely with those down the pub last evening. Headed back this morning to quizz the nite shift crews. I will report back shortly! Couldn't see you anywhere by the way.

2020-07-28T23:18:58+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


I’m well aware of the costs to NSW and Qld that all three of the expansion teams have driven. Watching all time great players never don the jersey of their home state was frustrating but IMO worth it to see the growth that has come with it. Having paid that price, I’m in no rush to see that growth thrown away.

2020-07-28T22:26:52+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


That's if you consider 8 wins vs 7 wins a huge difference. Last year only the Jaguares were better than 8 wins and the 2nd SA team only won 7 games. Really there is very little material difference in 5th to 11th last season. Only the Jaguares were a side that was really competing. In 2018 it was much closer. The top SA team won 9 of 16, the Jaguares 9 of 16 and 2nd SA team 7 of 16. In fact the 2nd SA team finished on equal points to the Rebels, the 2nd Aus team. The Stormers and Bulls then finished on equal wins to the Reds, the bottom Aus team. I think perceptions of SA teams are just massively skewed. When the conference system was most split in 2016 to 2017, Aus teams still played 4 of 5 NZ teams, where the SA teams racked up wins (Stormers for example won 10 in 2016 but not only didn't play an NZ team in NZ, I don't think played an NZ team. Lions in 2017 won 14 but didn't play in NZ or even play an NZ team). In 2016 the Top 3 SA teams won 11, 10 and 9 games. In 2017 this was 14, 10 and 9. In 2018 and 2019 when this changed again no SA team (i'm not considering the Jaguares as an SA team when I say this here) won more than 9 games. And only 1 won 8 or more. But people are still thinking of them as teams that win 10+ games.

2020-07-28T21:37:16+00:00

Guess

Roar Rookie


rugby fans have in recent weeks been joined at the new format whiteboard of ideas by… rugby administrators In the end they will make a poll of ideas created by the roarers and let the public decide :p

2020-07-28T20:52:52+00:00

potsie

Guest


You are right that cutting the Force was tragic and that their supporters who hung in there through thick and thin are admirable. But the development of rugby in WA did not come free. The advent of the Force weakened NSW, QLD and ACT and contributed to the slide of Australian rugby. It also changed the nature and most would say diminished Super Rugby causing injury to rugby in NZ and South Africa too. Let's not pretend that those who are bearing the costs directly or indirectly, of supporting rugby development in WA don't have a legitimate say as to whether they can continue to carry that cost.

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