Super League revisited: More 'what ifs'

By Tim Carter / Roar Pro

This week’s edition focuses on the warring competitions’ fight to recruit clubs and establish themselves.

What if Super League moved to the Central Coast?
Way back in part two of this series, jamesb wrote a scenario in the comments section suggesting North Sydney defecting to Super League as a Central Coast team:

“As for North Sydney, they wanted to relocate to the Central Coast. However looking back on it now, their biggest mistake was not joining Super League. Super League were after a tenth club and it eventually went to the Adelaide Rams. But it could have easily gone to Norths.

Super League might’ve looked after Norths financially in the short term before committing themselves on the coast. Plus Manly were loyal to the ARL thanks to key figures like Ken Arthurson and Bob Fulton. Instead Norths stuck loyal to the ARL.

“When the comp was compromised and the criteria was set out, Norths were in the bottom few. Manly weren’t that much better off either, and that’s when the Northern Eagles came in.

“When you think about it, Norths had a few cards up their sleeve with relocating to the Central Coast and going to Super League. While Manly could’ve been the ones under the gun. In the end, the Bears didn’t play any of their cards and are now in permanent hibernation from the top flight.

“The three Sydney clubs that went to Super League all survived.”

The proposal makes sense; with the Bears being a fairly wealthy foundation club fresh from a preliminary final, they would have represented a coup for the new competition.

Not attracting the Bears, however, should not have been the end of the matter. A Gosford team could have existed not only as an alternative for spectators from the northern suburbs of Sydney, but also Novocastrians.

The Central Coast Mariners, a name not yet in use, would have been a better alternative than the Hunter side that was created instead, with an untapped market of potential fans, juniors, and sponsors. Even if the Hunter Mariners were still formed, a Central Coast team had more potential than the hastily formed Adelaide Rams.

The Bears. (Photo by Getty Images)

What if Super League approached South Sydney?
Super League managed to convince eight of the 20 ARL clubs to join their rebel competition, with 11 teams rejecting their advances. The odd team out was South Sydney, the only club never to be approached.

At the time, the Rabbitohs were the antithesis of the Super League vision: low crowds, poor on-field, outdated training facilities, short on money, and lacking business nous. But if they defected, the results would have been mutually beneficial.

Souths could have received an income source that would have offered them some parity in the player market, and they might have strengthened their hopes of survival.

Super League could have had a team based in Sydney’s CBD, avoided having to set up one of their expansion clubs, and been able to argue more strongly for their competition’s legitimacy. South Sydney were (and are) are a foundation club who have won more premierships than any other club. This would have required a tweak to the PR approach focusing on modernity, but a worthwhile one.

There are too many hypothetical club movements on either side to enter into, but the fact that Super League didn’t even try to approach the Rabbitohs a massive wasted opportunity.

Wayne Bennett could have been at Souths earlier. (Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

What if either competition went to Melbourne?
Yes, yes, the Melbourne Storm were formed at the end of 1997. But what about before then, as a Super League expansion or an ARL relocation?

Super League wanted a national footprint, and Melbourne had maintained credible crowds at representative fixtures, even when the star power was diminished by the war. The teams who stayed loyal to the ARL were predominantly from Sydney, when they had fought to have expanded from that base in the preceding years.

Balmain had even explored moving to the Victorian capital prior to their Sydney Tigers at Parramatta Stadium rebranding. Notwithstanding Melbourne’s Australian rules monopoly, surely clubs with diminishing revenues could at least have tried to make it work.

What if Super League had better free-to-air coverage?
Blame Gary Sweet. Police drama Water Rats was a ratings juggernaut for Channel 9 in its 8:30pm timeslot on Monday night. In 1996, the ARL had to wait until Water Rats finished its season before reintroducing Monday night football.

Super League, as already mentioned, ended up negotiating with Channel 9 to screen their match of the round. They wanted Monday night, but 9 weren’t willing to reschedule Water Rats and insisted on showing Super League at 9:30pm.

The ensuing protest led to the horrible compromise of ARL’s Friday night game also being shown at 9:30pm.

Super League should have looked to be screened on the vacant Sunday afternoon or live on Thursday night at 7:30. If 9 said no, another network could surely have been able to cover one game per week.

In addition, those without Foxtel would have assumed Super League was a seven-team competition. Adelaide, North Queensland, and Perth were never shown on 9. Hunter Mariners fared little better, shown only once; even then, their clash with Canterbury was the only game played on that split round weekend.

Aside from Perth home games opening up the potential for a live Monday night fixture, showing the same clubs over and over made the product become stale, to the extent that Channel 9’s commentators were instructed to pep up their calls.

I remember Mat Rogers scoring a run of the mill try off a bomb and Ray Warren treating it like the 1980 grand final.

Next week’s final article addresses the What If’s of the early NRL era.

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2020-10-07T03:50:21+00:00

Tim Carter

Roar Pro


At least you don't have to deal with the pub game timeslot.

AUTHOR

2020-10-07T03:48:38+00:00

Tim Carter

Roar Pro


Not into a good stadium anyway. And it was only completed after Norths finished their season, unfortunately.

2020-10-07T01:26:05+00:00

Big Daddy

Guest


Tim, the bowling greens were right on the northern end and had a wire fence and the patrons would go into the bowling club so they didn't have to pay admission to Grahame Park and watch the football. No bowlers just a good spot to watch the footy.

AUTHOR

2020-10-06T23:51:25+00:00

Tim Carter

Roar Pro


Was the bowling club overlooking the field pre-renovation? Townsen Oval in Newcastle was the concrete field I dreaded most for away games. If only cricket pitches would heal in the winter months.

AUTHOR

2020-10-06T23:46:34+00:00

Tim Carter

Roar Pro


https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/05/07/super-league-revisited-the-arl-clubs/

2020-10-06T23:46:06+00:00

Kdog

Guest


bears can't have moved to CC during the league wars, the stadium was only completed in 1999.

AUTHOR

2020-10-06T23:45:41+00:00

Tim Carter

Roar Pro


It's in the second part of this series (I'll post the link below). They were sponsored by BBX in 1999, who rather than paying cash provided x hundred thousand dollars worth of business services with their partner companies. I imagine that could range from temp office staff to company vehicles to post-it notes. Unfortunately, the Bears needed actual cash for operations and for the sponsorship aspect of the 14 team criteria.

2020-10-06T22:20:44+00:00

Big Daddy

Guest


The old "Grahame Park". Scored a couple there and watched many more. The hardest to ground you could ever play on and the audience were some chirpy bowlers.

2020-10-06T12:22:18+00:00

Nico

Roar Rookie


Yep used to love the Sunday arvo matches, with a packed out ANZ (if you could make out the ants-like figures on the field from beyond the athletics track) and dry deck footy which allowed that brilliant backline to showcase their skills

2020-10-06T10:00:19+00:00

Nico

Roar Rookie


That idea from the Broncs that they wanted exclusivity always struck me as pretty short-sighted - the fact that the Broncs and the Crushers both drew so well in '95 showed there was the appetite to sustain two Brisbane sides, and they probably would have developed a healthy rivalry had the Crushers continued. But clearly as the QRL's side, the Crushers were probably never a real chance of defecting to SL. On another note, I'd heard that Norths lost out because their sponsorship deals were done to give the club credits or shares or something like that, which the NRL refused to recognise when it came to cutting clubs in '99, can you shed any light on that?

AUTHOR

2020-10-06T07:59:52+00:00

Tim Carter

Roar Pro


Regarding the Central Coast, one stumbling block I didn't mention in the article was that Grahame Park was yet to be converted into the 20,000 seater it is today. Mind you, the stadiums of the Knights, Magpies, Bulldogs, etc, weren't much chop at the time either. It's hard to imagine now how toxic a brand the Rabbitohs were in the early 90's. Their board had no real negotiating power, and probably would have jumped ship had they been thrown some scraps. I would assume for Super league, Melbourne would be formed instead of Adelaide. Even if there was a slightly bigger footprint there, South Australia offered less opportunity to grow. Honestly, the 1997 coverage was underwhelming for both competitions. It just didn't feel right.

AUTHOR

2020-10-06T07:42:47+00:00

Tim Carter

Roar Pro


They did eventually approach the Crushers, but it took a while because the Broncos wanted exclusivity. If the Crushers defected, the Chargers would have been the only away trip requiring a plane.

AUTHOR

2020-10-06T07:38:56+00:00

Tim Carter

Roar Pro


I know they weren't showing any games in NSW, but they may have in other states. That would be a real shame if they almost did a deal, but couldn't quite get it sorted.

2020-10-06T06:15:45+00:00

Rellum

Roar Guru


The Broncs had every game shown locally during the glory years of the early 90's and I thing up and past super league. Pretty much every Sunday arvo you would sit down to watch the Broncs put on a show. That is why all the members want Sunday arvo games and not Friday night Thursday night games.

2020-10-06T05:40:00+00:00

Nico

Roar Rookie


"South Sydney, the only club never to be approached" - I've also heard it said (I think it was on Rugby League Digest) that the Crushers weren't courted by SL or the ARL, which given they were they were drawing 20k plus a game is baffling

2020-10-06T05:31:49+00:00

Nico

Roar Rookie


If memory serves me SL ended up getting FTA coverage on the ABC for a weekly Sunday afternoon game

AUTHOR

2020-10-06T04:09:21+00:00

Tim Carter

Roar Pro


The Rams definitely did, which was good, but for viability teams need national exposure.

AUTHOR

2020-10-06T04:07:32+00:00

Tim Carter

Roar Pro


Dang! Can I still blame Gary Sweet anyway?

2020-10-06T02:34:07+00:00

Dwanye

Roar Rookie


What if Super League moved to the Central Coast? Good idea, if they could have stretched or aimed it as a central coast Newcastle thing would have be better then the uphill battle against the knights. Look at the area the cowboys cover. How couldn’t they see this? I know it a big market that you want to get into, but since the club didn’t sign and the fans got upset at Newcastle west’s, central coast Mariners would have been better (make it the north coast Mariners, from north of Sydney to the border). Let Newcastle go to arl, if arl fold down the track bring them back. Would have been great for north’s, plus SL to have as many original clubs as possible. I would love to hear from people on their board at the time, why they didn’t sign, same with South’s. What if Super League approached South Sydney? Was it timing or who they had on their board? They spoke with manly and east’s, lol. If they had been able to get South’s, another ARL official club, an original, their history, would only have helped. I would love to know what these Sydney boards idea’s and plans were for the future, particularly regarding the ‘bradley report’ and the ARL plans? It was aimed at them! Lol. Again, I’d live to hear what boards at the time from south’s. What if either competition went to Melbourne? I don’t think this be changed too much, maybe the SL argument of a national comp. maybe they didn’t want to start too many new teams in one go. The Rams had a few working all out to get a team there for awhile. Not sure if Melb had that at the time. If SL had got The Tigers to go, that ‘could’ have helped their comp, another ARL team crossing, plus thinning out the Sydney comp whilst keeping that tiger brand. What if Super League had better free-to-air coverage? I never understood this one and the mess of teams and games on the TV was part of my frustration at the time with the ARL and nine. They didn’t really care about giving me, a viewer, the best of what I want to see. ARL talked up from the beginning Packer’s support and love for the game, I think nine then making a deal to show SL showed nine didn’t care like they thought and were saying. why would they show the thing they wanted dead? Arko was pretty upset with Packer near the end, I think the ARL got taken for a bit of a ride. SL signed up to nine and got a bad coverage from my point of view. Why wouldn’t they go on another channel, inundate the games every week, they would lose some rating head to head. But get your ‘good’ product out there! It was a more difficult juggle back then for channels, now with three or so channels for a station. But they have all delayed the next program because a ‘ratings’ show is on. I do like how channel 7 has stacks of AFL games on their secondary channels, it seems every other second a game is on. I would love NRL having that. I remember the commentary back then carrying on and thinking hang on, before you got the SL games you all bagged it. Lol. Made me feel they were all full of it. I’m guessing the ARL backtracked on the ‘Bradley report’ plans once SL attacked. ARL not wanting to kick out, upset teams, maybe that’s why more Sydney teams didn’t run at super league. (I wish they had been more open about what they were doing and wanted to do in regards to the comp future).

2020-10-06T00:27:37+00:00

Nick

Roar Guru


Really? That's an incredibly regressive step by the NRL if they stopped doing that. It's what they should be doing now. The AFL does that. Each non-Victorian club has all 22 of their games on FTA in the local market.

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