Pablo Matera must do course to be Pumas captain

unfortunately life has gotten more complex than to be able to be completely managed by common sense

The average person has common sense, thus doesn't need governments, corporations etc to lecture them on these issues.

clear understanding of his resposibility as captain of his country hopefully

some amount of self control with speech isnt too much to ask is it? we’re not 5 year olds. as far as thought control ….. get real.

Ha, ha. The High Court eh? Wow, the Constitution must have been changed to give the HC jurisdiction in employment matters. Missed that. What is the name of your law firm? I want to refer some people in need of help to you as you obviously are right up on the latest developments.? :laughing:

"Personally I found it disgusting how some rugby fans described Castle as an obese slob." I never read any comments on the Roar saying that.

Actually a much better description.

Not to appease the masses, but to implement thought and speech control on the masses.

What will he get at the end of the course - a certificate saying that Pablo Matera doesn't really like to run over black people in his car?

TBH mate I’m not sure where it started. However, I see politically correct as something done to appease the masses but not with any real effect or meaning

sure did jacko. you too

1Mil a year as his payout and he is supposedly on 450 pounds a year in league...So thats $700 a year on top of the mil a year of his contract payout......Seems reasonable to me and I dont think he was getting an extra 700K from sponsors...I have heard he is looking at the American rugby comp on a lot more than that too but the Covid stopped that at this stage and no one knows when those comps will start more signings again.... Who knows maybe a contract with the PI side looking to join Sr may be his future......All guesswork at the moment.... Hope you had a great new year Soapit...

Fair point. My hope is that people become more respectful of our differences while supporting a respectful debate. It is better to openly discuss differences in views and discover that we agree on most important things.

I'm not Argentinean, but I am Latin American (Panamanian), from a country that actually has a substantial black population (not the case for Argentina). Different Latin American countries have different ways to deal with racial issues. Matera's words were wrong, but not in the way the English speaking media described the issue (Negros, in the way he was using it, was not about African-Argentineans or any such. It was a mix of a racial and class slur, but on the racial front, it was more geared to people of indigenous or mestizo background than black). I understand that Matera, Petti & Socino had to pay a price. They did write outrageous, racist, insensitive things, but at a minimum, it would behoove English writers to try understand the context of the offenses, since they happened in Spanish, within an Argentinean context and milieu, over 8 years ago. P.S. 1.: I don't follow soccer, but I see that a Man U Uruguayan player surnamed Cavani is being raked through the coals for using "Negro" on social media, but in a context that CLEARLY was a term of endearment. Shame on Man U for being insensitive and understand that in the context that Cavani made his comment, it was absolutely not a slur. P.S. 2: I suggest you guys look up the canonnical Salsa song "El Negro Bembón". It's a classic in Latin America, and it makes no sense whatsoever in English, both culturally and due to present sensibilities. But within the Spanish speaking Caribbean, and more broadly, Latin America, NOBODY takes offense at it. Cultural sensitivity implies respecting other cultures and the way they police their own. P.S. 3: One of the all-time best pitchers in Baseball is named Pedro Martínez. Martínez is Dominican, and he got into a HUGE brouhaha in the U.S. some years ago because of his attendance to cock fighting events in the Dominican. Martínez even ended up apologizing, so as to get the issue out of the way. However, cockfighting remains a huge cultural institution in the Dominican. And it's not going away because some Americans find it offensive (for the record, there is cock fighting here in Panama, but I do not support or patronize it in any way, though I do acknowledge that it is a cultural reality). Again, cultural sensibility implies respecting other cultures, even if you dislike the way those cultures operate.

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I am trying to make the point that cultures are different and that something that may be offensive in one place it may not be the same somewhere else. I just sent a happy new year sms to my father in law saying “Negro querido.....” which it is actually a very kind thing to say here and I am sure it is the opposite in SA. That is all.

Were Matera’s tweets discussing the nickname of his favorite local doctor? If not what is the point of this? I usually like your writing, so this is not an attack on you, personally. I also agree that there was a big overreaction to tweets from the players youthful years. But I didn’t think there was a dispute that the tweets were offensive.

No, didn't use to login very often just have had more time this year and found its easier when logged in. Dont think I have ever posted anything I would be ashamed of my granny reading. I think I have commented more in last few months with being in lockdown in Melbourne, fills in sometime.

yet to see evidence myself

no way hes earning as much as a result