When does the present begin?

By Les Zig / Roar Guru

I’m trying to keep track of this.

So Heritier Lumumba condemns the Collingwood Football Club – as a whole – as a racist organisation. When all the players sign an apology and vow to do better, Lumumba asks why young players who’ve had no part of the systemic racism had to sign the apology.

So I’m unsure if the whole club is meant to be racist or not, or if we’re still searching for a way how to process this, or if this is the best representation of how all of this remains so unclear.

On Facebook, Simon Buckley (a Pie from 2011 to 2012) and Shae McNamara argue about the time in question. Simon Buckley claims Lumumba had no issue with the nickname. McNamara says Simon Buckley can’t speak for Lumumba and doesn’t understand that sometimes you accept things just to fit in.

The two go back and forth. McNamara says he can tell everybody a thing or two. Simon Buckley challenges him to. Lumumba chimes in and answers Buckley courteously, and says he’s open to a private chat.

On Twitter, McNamara opens up, speaking diplomatically but with an air of televangelism, acknowledging a number of key Collingwood figures who he claims effectively ignored what was going on – among them Eddie McGuire, Nathan Buckley, Scott Pendlebury, Nick Maxwell and Luke Ball.

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McNamara played for Collingwood from 2010 to 2012 – two of those three years were under premiership coach Mick Malthouse, who somehow escapes this widespread criticism. This is not intended to impugn or condemn Malthouse, but it is just an interesting observation about selectivity in memory.

Sharrod Wellingham (at Collingwood from 2008 to 2012) says he never experienced racism at Collingwood, while Dayne Beams (2009 to 2014 and 2019) says that the nickname was used, Lumumba was a party to it, but Beams feels if they were asked to stop, the group had the strength of character to address the issue.

Leon Davis (2000 to 2011) comes out and says there were racial problems at Collingwood from the moment he arrived, and lists several examples – including a player profile that was filled in for him with racial asides.

Presumably, this is also meant to explain the Heritier Lumumba (then Harry O’Brien) player profile that’s emerged on social media, showing Lumumba himself cited the nickname in question as one of his nicknames. That would seem he was fine with it. Unless he was fine with it to fit in. Or, as Davis is implying, somebody else filled in the profile.

And now Cameron Cloke is the latest to join the fray, saying that in his time (2004 to 2006; Lumumba arrived in 2006) he heard nothing, and can we now move past this and just focus on footy?

One of Collingwood’s pre-eminent supporters, Joffa, posted Cameron Cloke’s message on Facebook. Former Pie Chris Egan (2005 to 2008) then emerged to dispute Cloke’s claim in Joffa’s post, and the two had a civil discussion about it.

Prior to all this, Eddie McGuire (when he was Collingwood president) has said Collingwood has repeatedly reached out to Lumumba, but to no avail.

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Nathan Buckley said he hadn’t heard the nickname, but among all the murmurings leading up to this, it emerged that when the nickname was brought up as an issue, it stopped being used.

That’s it and nobody’s been left out.

So where does all that leave us?

One of the problems in exploring this issue is that too many people are pursuing absolutes: the truth must absolutely be this or that – that what happened was racist, and nothing else matters, or that Lumumba had absolutely no problem with it (and thus it’s not racist), and is twisting what happened now for his own end game.

And it’s got to be one way or the other. That’s it. That’s the world we’re living in. One side must triumph. The other side must be crushed. Forget actual discussion. The triumphant will write the narrative and the defeated will be condemned in perpetuity. So both sides batter away at one another in this endless to and froing where no quarter is given.

There’s no doubt Collingwood has had racial indiscretions in their past. The public ones are well documented. I can’t speak for the inner sanctum of the club since I’m not a party to their day-to-day operations. But I can say that as a supporter I heard things in the 1980s and 1990s in the outer, but haven’t heard anything in the 2000s and 2010s.

That’s not to say they don’t happen – they obviously do. In all likelihood, there will always be incidents. We just have to go back to what happened with Adam Goodes in 2013. Or what happened with Eddie Betts when Adelaide played Port Adelaide. But they aren’t as common as they once were, which shows we’re growing up.

Is it going to happen overnight? No. It’s an ongoing journey – just as any form of growth is. Changes doesn’t come instantly. It’s a long, difficult process fraught with backslides, frustrations and distractions. But we generally will do our best to persevere until the new behaviours become the default position.

In regards to what’s happening at Collingwood with Lumumba, it’s becoming an exercise in futility to find that clarity because we will never reach an absolute truth. We all remember things differently. We all have different outlooks. Talk to any family member or friend about some occasion years ago, and you’re bound to have different memories of it.

Whether Lumumba had no issue with it at the time or tolerated it to fit in is no longer irrelevant, because it did happen. We know that. That’s one aspect that isn’t in dispute. We’re actually arguing about context, which is taking us away from the real discussion.

This doesn’t invalidate anybody’s account. And it doesn’t mean anybody has to be discredited, shunned and humiliated. We seem so often to pursue truth with a zeal that has no time for nuance, empathy or understanding. It becomes about castigation, which would seem the least enlightened outlook to take.

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We can’t go back and change what was. It’s there. It was done. I don’t write this to trivialise it or dismiss it. But the hubbub surrounding it isn’t constructive to the discussion that should be explored, and we’re getting stuck there in that tug of war, which could go on indefinitely.

This is something I learnt myself the hard way.

I was hit by a car in 2011 and had my right leg busted badly. A driver ran a light when I had the right of way. It left me with chronic pain, and permanent damage that restricts me. I can no longer run. My ankle feels as if it’s been taped up so that it has barely any flexion. And I have nerve damage that means part of the injury is often experiencing weird and unpleasant sensations – and probably will the rest of my life.

I could constantly go back to the day in the question and rant at the driver responsible – and, to be honest, I did that in the first year as the extent of the damage became evident, and I was doing endless sessions of physio, hydro, nerve blocks and pain seminars. But since then, I’ve learnt I can’t continue to exist in that moment. It happened. I’ve had to process it, accept it and work out a way to move forward.

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To Heritier, I am sorry your time at Collingwood was demeaning and has become the source of pain. I can’t imagine it was all miserable, but it’s beginning to feel as if it was, which is a shame since you were part of a group that achieved something so few groups at Collingwood achieve (despite so many efforts).

To the other players who’ve shared their accounts one way or another, thanks, but all these differing views just show we’re never going to agree on one version.

What we’re left with (or should be left with) is the intent to – just as the title of the report Collingwood commissioned states – do better from hereon.

And that doesn’t apply exclusively to Collingwood, but also to other clubs and organisations across the country.

Let’s start writing a new narrative, instead of getting stuck on disputing the old one.

The Crowd Says:

2021-03-05T13:20:55+00:00

COB

Roar Rookie


Great article Les. Agree 100%

2021-03-05T03:43:02+00:00

okapiman

Roar Rookie


Bucks has reached out to Adam Treloar - but not to Hertier. Says it all really.

2021-03-05T03:23:42+00:00

Tazzie

Guest


Hey lets all move on and sweep all this back under the carpet where it belongs, after all it is an inconvenient truth, NOT. Eddie outstayed his usefulness by about 5 years, as for Bucks I had enormous respect for him but no longer, I see today he is still having a crack at Adam Treloar, not in any way helpful Bucks in moving forward, time to depart the nest. Both Eddie and Bucks have been great for the Pies over a long period but as it turns out too long.

2021-03-05T03:06:27+00:00

2dogz

Roar Rookie


Only 18?

2021-03-04T21:17:50+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Chris, the report had 18 action points the club are now acting on. How exactly is that not doing anything?

2021-03-04T20:00:59+00:00

West Coast Eagles

Roar Rookie


Nathan Krakouer never played for Collingwood think you might of confused him with Andrew Krakouer.

2021-03-04T19:44:58+00:00

PeteB

Roar Rookie


When a nickname is so obviously racist you shouldn’t have to wait to be told to stop using it. It’s irrelevant what Lumumba’s thoughts at the time or his intentions now are. It doesn’t change the fact that racism existed and occurred, leadership on the issue was non existent and Eddies response to the report was appalling.

2021-03-04T15:12:05+00:00

okapiman

Roar Rookie


The only issue I have - is the move on argument is assuming that all facts are out there but now in dispute. Les you might be tired of it but clearly, some players are in real pain. The fact is Collingwood lied and tried to cover it up. Now they have been caught - they tried to bury it in a report then when that was leaked - The PR team agreed "let's quickly admit and try and move on". Hence the proud day comment. The fact is new stories are emerging weekly..and it is all part of the healing process for the injured parties. The story I read about Nathan Krakouer a couple of days ago was gob smacking. It was absolutely shocking. Please read it - I almost fell off my chair. Racist, intimidating - in fact the Collingwood players effectively said to Nathan - your life has no value - other than a "sound". So I think though you may be tired of it. Let the victims have their say, hopefully get to heal and when they are ready we all move on together. Not just when a few white priveleged supporters are tired of it.

2021-03-04T07:12:08+00:00

Chris_S

Roar Rookie


Buckley has maintained that her never heard Lumumba being called chimp, in fact the way he tells it, he didn't see any racism at the club at all. Which raises the question, if he wasn't racist and nothing racist happened around him then why is he now saying he could do better? All those in power at Collingwood need to stop telling us they have done nothing wrong but are somehow going to "do better". "Doing better" has become the new buzz jargon. Just a way of saying your going to do something when your not.

2021-03-04T05:59:29+00:00

Chris Lewis

Roar Guru


Well I think now players are now rightfully much more aware of name-calling in terms of how it affects players. I doubt whether the practise will now persist.

2021-03-04T04:31:56+00:00

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Guest


'Move on'... Both you and the author say. People always say 'well, it's happened now. All we can do is move on and hope it doesn't happen again'. Sometimes they add let's try to do better. But you can't move on until the issue is addressed and things put in place to avoid it happening again. If people 'move on' before that then it gets forgotten. Which is what alot of those people really want.

2021-03-04T03:36:09+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


David you are a classic case of reading the headline and not the substance. In affect you are part of what Les has eloquently described above as ..."One of the problems in exploring this issue is that too many people are pursuing absolutes: the truth must absolutely be this or that – that what happened was racist, and nothing else matters," . Buckley admitted to being too dismissive in a press conference. You turn that into "Buckley dismissive of racism" and thereby must go. If you actually read his words... "“There was a presser when I look back in 2017 and it was dismissive and I needed to be better than that,” Buckley said in an interview with the AFL website.. he goes on to say "What I now understand is that is a form of systemic racism, the dismissing and denial of experience is not a direct act, but in many ways it reinforces the pain and trauma that Heritier felt and that [other former players] Andrew [Krakouer] and Leon [Davis] have spoken about. It’s feeling like they don’t have a voice and they don’t have somewhere to go and that’s the systemic aspect of it." David, you turn that back into an absolute, a headline. You are the prime example in this article. Les describes you as "It becomes about castigation, which would seem the least enlightened outlook to take."

2021-03-04T03:02:01+00:00

David O\'Hara

Roar Rookie


I believe after Buckleys comments about being "dismissive" of the racism, he needs to go before the club can get clear air and move forward.

2021-03-04T01:11:12+00:00

Chris Lewis

Roar Guru


There are those who will see the issue sensibly like Les does, as being somewhat confusing given different events. There will be others that will use the situation at Collingwood to imply recent events as an example of structural racism. I chose to go with Les's plea to move on.

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