Collingwood: The missing years

By Chip / Roar Guru

History matters. Past decisions impact current and future outcomes.

As Collingwood’s season lurches from bad to worse, it could be useful to look at the team’s drafting history since 2011, the first draft that impacted Nathan Buckley as coach, and compare it to other sides.

Drafting decisions are key to replenishing and revitalising lists and providing the pipeline for success. This is not to deny the importance of trading, free agency and a plethora of factors that make clubs successful, but this article focuses on drafting in all its forms – national, rookie and midseason – drawing on extensive data from AFL FootyWire.

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I have looked at two draft periods: 2011-16 and 2017-19. The former represents players who should be established and/or reaching veteran stage today, while the latter encompasses emerging talents. I have considered the players from those draft periods who are still at the club at the time of writing.

Still at club 2011-16 2017-19
Collingwood 18.9 per cent 60 per cent
Richmond 26.7 per cent 78.9 per cent
Geelong 24.4 per cent 70 per cent
West Coast 23.9 per cent 61.9 per cent
Western Bulldogs 31.9 per cent 87.5 per cent
Hawthorn 25.6 per cent 52.9 per cent

First of all, AFL is a brutal game with high attrition. As can be seen, Collingwood has had the weakest performance in player retention taken in drafts between 2011-16, with less than a fifth of players brought in at the club still there. The core group of players who should be established is simply not as strong as it is at the other clubs.

What is evident is the stronger showing by Western Bulldogs, Richmond and Hawthorn. This drafting position explains at least in part the successful eras of Richmond and previously Hawthorn, but it also demonstrates how well placed the Bulldogs are in 2021. The Bulldogs have steadily built a strong foundation for the future, encompassing both veterans and experience but with sufficient underlying youth.

A closer look at Collingwood beyond these stats shows an even bleaker bleak picture. Collingwood has only one player, Brodie Grundy, from the 12 taken in 2012 still on its list, none from the 2013 group of seven, two out from the nine taken in 2015 and only three from the eight of 2016.

THe 2014 draft, which included the likes of Brayden Maynard, Darcy Moore, and Jordan De Goey, was a better year, with four out of eight still at the club. In no year prior to 2020 has there been more than 50 per cent of players drafted still at the Collingwood Football Club today.

While bad luck has to some extent played a role in this, notably the injuries to Matthew Scharenberg and Nathan Freeman, the attrition rate is nonetheless extremely high, particularly when you consider that in a number of these years Collingwood was no powerhouse and thus had reasonable draft picks, including father-son picks.

All of this raises many questions about the overall recruitment approach of the club. Why have drafted players suffered chronic injuries? Why has player development not occurred to the same extent as other clubs? Has the recruitment really been targeting genuine need? What resourcing is put into drafting compared to other areas of the club? What criteria is the club using to recruit players?

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As with other clubs and as is to be expected, there is a higher retention emerging rate among the 2017-19 group. With the exception of Hawthorn, whose recent drafting is questionable, Collingwood is second-last on the percentage of players still at the club who were drafted in 2017-19. Collingwood really needs to hope that its 2020 crop of draftees can in years ahead provide the basis for success.

However, simply being at a club is not enough. One must also look at the number of games played.

Average draftee games 2011-16
Collingwood 28.7
Richmond 34.5
Geelong 27.6
West Coast 22.0
Western Bulldogs 44.1
Hawthorn 29.0

These figures represent the average number of games played for the club by draftees between 2011 and 2016. It includes only games played at the particular club, not games played at other clubs if there were player movements. On this score Collingwood sits in the middle of the pack, with the Bulldogs again a stand-out. However, this is masking the fact that the Collingwood game averages are inflated by a few players like Brodie Grundy (157 games), Jordan De Goey (103 games), Brayden Maynard (122 games) and Darcy Moore (95 games).

As mentioned, there are a number of factors that make for successful clubs. All parts of a club must be synchronous, and luck does play a part. So too does sound recruitment. When an inevitable review comes up, the issue of drafting at Collingwood must be included.

Simply put, the Magpies lack the fundamental demographics of success: a strong core of established players.

The Crowd Says:

2021-04-29T12:01:47+00:00

Charlie Keegan

Roar Guru


Yeah but the pies have two flags in sixty years.

2021-04-28T23:49:21+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Shrewd operator Balmey with that touch of mongrel as we saw in his playing days. Has the Midas touch. Maybe Saints should go hard for him!

2021-04-28T23:22:53+00:00

RT

Roar Rookie


Thanks Eddie is all I can say. Tigers were circling already, so he may have left regardless.

2021-04-28T23:04:57+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Pies stuffed up with Balme in trying to bring Gubby Allen in. There was spin that Gubby would handle the new women’s footy movement but Balmey saw through it and walked. Bucks basically rued that decision of Eddie yesterday in his presser.

2021-04-28T20:58:11+00:00

RT

Roar Rookie


I think Collingwood in effect demoted him and then Richmond came along.

2021-04-28T20:34:27+00:00

Yattuzzi

Roar Rookie


Don’t think Balm was ever sacked. He was at Cats the Pies before Richmond.

2021-04-28T20:28:05+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


The president helps build a foundation of ultimate opportunity for the footy department to get the job done. Ed’s presidency provided plenty of those opportunities with 3 Grand Finals and a couple of preliminaries. Would you consider the Geelong leadership negligent from 2012-2020 or successful in providing opportunity?

2021-04-28T12:36:19+00:00

okapiman

Roar Rookie


Even on those Stats - Eddies leadership has been a failure. 1 premiership each 18 years - is the basic measure. Eddie was there for 20+ = fail. Andrew Ireland is the master set up 3 at Brisbane and 2 at Sydney. The most underrated leader in AFL. Balme is closing in... but then I can't recall which club sacked him ? Where was Balme before the Tigers?

2021-04-28T09:34:14+00:00

Kevo

Roar Rookie


Maybe The Roar should change its name to The Warbler. Every second article is about Collingwood! Some good pertinent points. Scharenburg was a very good player up until his last knee injury. I still suspect Scharenburg at his worst may be better than Magden at his best. Freeborn was suppose to be another Danger. Data is good to a point but has its limitations. Hoping by continuing with youth Collingwood will eventually create some magpie magic to satisfy this old warbler.

2021-04-27T23:45:19+00:00

Greg

Roar Rookie


Logical assessment. Need a similar, wider effort now from Wright.

2021-04-27T23:45:06+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Wow, aren’t people lining up to sink the boots into the Pies. Yes we have got ourselves into a bit of a mess but here’s a pertinent stat for you. Years since last premiership Melbourne – 57 years St Kilda – 55 years Essendon – 21 years Carlton – 25 years North – 22 years Adelaide – 23 years Port Adelaide – 17 years Brisbane – 18 years Collingwood – 10 years GWS – 9 years no flags Sydney – 9 years Hawthorn – 6 years Fremantle – no premierships, 26 years in the comp Gold Coast – 12 years no flags Geelong went 44 years without a flag between 1963-2007, Doggies had a 62 year gap between the 2 flags they have won in their history, Pies went 32 years 1958-1990, the Tigers of course went 37 years before 2017 What’s my point? Flags aren’t easy to come by. If we compare to the best recent outfits we are pretty dire and that is Hawthorn, Richmond, Geelong and West Coast. West Coast are a great club, Geelong are a great club, Hawthorn are a great club and Richmond have become a great club. Compared to those four we look pretty sick, compared to the rest we sit higher than most. Just think how the Tiger army felt in 2016. Things can turn quickly and I have faith in Graham Wright to work some magic.

2021-04-27T22:52:03+00:00

Chris Lewis

Roar Guru


Now that is a good article that cites data between the clubs to make a profound point. I feel sorry for Collingwood supporters. I know as an Essendon supporter what can happen when you bring the wrong people into leadership roles who may appoint the wrong people (drug scandal). One can only hope that Collingwood does have more luck with its appointees and playing personnel in coming years. With the daily attacks, it looks like heads will roll this year.

2021-04-27T21:48:00+00:00

DeaPea

Roar Rookie


Simply put, the arse has fallen out of the club since 2011. It’s a strange coincidence that that was the same year the club (Eddie) booted their coach who had just led them to back to back grand finals and were looking to remain a power to content for more premierships. The sooner someone at the club comes out and makes a full blown apology to members and fans about the systemic failures of the last decade and address the stench that currently envelopes the club the better. I have faith in Graham Wright but he’s got one hell of a job. The new president doesn’t inspire any confidence either. Perhaps Geoff Brown or John Bertrand better options.

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