Pro14, South African rugby clubs form United Rugby Championship

all airlines have taken a bath over the last year and will continue to hemorage money for ages. travelling from S.A. to europe and back will be a big cost. all of the european teams will immediatley face a huge increase in travel and associated costs. dont know whether this will be much more sustainable than super rugby was.

Was not thinking along those lines TWAS. Only H&A against all teams is "fair" in my opinion. Having said that though, it is only "unfair" on the order of also rans, typically the teams ranked 7 and 8 on the table. By and large the best four teams were in the semis, best two in the final etc. The biggest inequity in these competitions is the disadvantage of being a contender but playing away from home. One Kiwi team (i think) had to fly to SA, won, and fly back to NZ for the next game. I was mainly talking about the financial metrics where the "tribalism" (surely the most over used word in sports administration) of conferences would be a boon to attendances and TV ratings.

I did not mention the Wallabies after 1995.

Thanks, JJ. I am always happy to improve my English.

“than I” is better (formal) “than me” whilst acceptable informally, makes you sound like a Bogan

Running away like a little man is usually what liars do when they get called out.

Try reading the link. It states the numbers i told you. And im not bothering with this conversation any more as you are being silly so im moving on. Bye!!!

A link that provws half of the PI Test players live and play in NZ doesn't exit. Obviously, hence you are a dishonest man.

Posted a link and all neutral.

You have never presented any proof for the claim that "About half live and play in NZ”, and obviously, you never will hence it is another blatant lie. And it is pretty obvious that my ability to understand English is superior to yours, but here is some news for you: that doesn't mean that all Swedes are better at English than people from English-speaking countries, it only means that I am better than you. In general, pretty much all Kiwis I know have much greater English skills than me. And they are honest and humble men too.

Haha enjoy your neutral day...if proof ain't enough then I give up. Yeah of course you swedes are better at English than us English speaking people...hahahahaha :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Psycho, that you lack basic knowledge in the English language and can't even understand what you written yourself is pretty sad to see but not really my problem. But it is pretty amazing that you can't even understand what your claim "Where do you think the PI test teams mainly come from? About half live and play in NZ”. means. You clearly state that about half of the PI Test team players live and play in NZ. And that is a blatant lie. You are a dishonest man with a poor attitude. It has been proven over and over again. The big problem is that you believe your feelings are facts. Real facts, you probably don't know what it is.

Neutral 15 of a squad of 32 is "ABOUT half...SORRY its actually only 47%... Does Sweden not teach basic maths. SO...That makes me correct and my maths correct...Goose!!! but I do dislike dishonest men like you – regardless of where they come from. Gees you must hate yourself then. Particully when you accuse me of being a liar and I prove my facts. Im on here enjoying discussions about MY country and OTHER countries playing rugby. You dont even come from a country that plays pro rugby yet you come on and prove your hatred for everything NZ and everything ABs.....WHY????? Enjoy your day Psycho!!!! Liar!!! Dishonest!!! BS artist etc etc etc... :laughing: :laughing:

Hi Jimbob, I'm definitely not arguing about that, the player drain north shows no sign of stopping.

NV, even those Top 14 clubs have made big losses overall over the years of professionalism, and goodness knows whether they will ever make an actual return on investment. Meanwhile other Top 14 clubs are in big trouble. You also have to take into account that they are massively reliant on a single customer, Canal+, which seems willing and able to continue, but it's a risk. The other thing is, apart from massive help from local government, even the French clubs are subsidised by the FFR, paid for by, that's right international rugby.

JD, to my knowledge there are several French clubs that have a very healthy economy. I think you are confusing things by constantly painting all Euro clubs with the same color. It is English Premiership clubs (bar Exeter) that have poor business models and is propped up by their owners, not the French (there are exceptions but they are few). French club rugby is actually pretty healthy with over 40 professional teams.

I really respect your “intellectual honesty” and I do apologize for an unnecessary dig at you before. Clearly I was wrong about you. Hopefully, we will see two Pasifika teams in SR next year which is a great first step. Giving the PIs a proper helping hand is long over due, I think we all agree on that. And I also hope this is just the beginning of a long term plan – from NZR, RA, and Word Rugby – to really work hard to strengthen PI rugby on all levels.

You are correct here me Sweed. Most do not play their game in NZ. However they do get their start there. They are NZ born to Tongan or Samoan families who dream of being ABs. When they don’t get the offer from the mighty ABs they take the next offer which is the county of their family. Once they make this decision most if not all are pushed aside by the super franchises (as they are no longer AB potential) and head to Europe or Japan to make a living. They are highly sort after as they are obviously super rugby quality players and as the PI teams don’t get much action as teams outside of world cups they don’t have to release them as often as other internationals. Watch the Fijians who play in Super Rugby AU head OS either next year or the year after as the Aussie sides will want to focus on developing Aussie talent.

You gotta be really unlucky every time you are thinking, Psycho. You claimed half of the player's lives and plays in NZ. Here is a direct quote from you: "Where do you think the PI test teams mainly come from? About half live and play in NZ". The fact is if one is a professional rugby player who wants to represent a PI nation at Test level, the options to make a living in NZ are close to zero. And again, I don't hate NZ (quite the opposite), but I do dislike dishonest men like you - regardless of where they come from.

Actually, SA is realistically the ONLY country that can play in both hemispheres.