To be or not to Wallaby? A question posed to Tier 2 by the Rennie-vation of Tier 1 rugby

By Ken Catchpole's Other Leg / Roar Guru

In my first ever Roar article I ask if we may take what is currently good and functional about Australian rugby, and deploy it to strengthen what is still weak in our game. (Tier 2, we’re lookin’ at you).

Last week Roarer, Stu opined: “Maybe we could have an annual Wallaby ‘Probables vs Possibles’ match at $20 bucks a ticket?”

In resonance with Stu’s wish to see more of our wider Wallaby squad members strut their stuff, I responded at the time with one of my current hobby horses – the shape of an ideal Trans-Tasman Super format.

More on that below, but first, a Rennievation update:

This Test season has seen the Rennievator with sleeves rolled up to his elbows, tinkering with the ideal design of the modern marsupial mongrel (and mongrelite).

From the higher than average skull thicknesses up front, who are slightly overplaying, (as in Swints’ swinging and Philip’s ‘swimming’), all the way back to the Lazaresque ‘underplay’ of Australia’s most controversial post-Campo creative, ‘Aussie Dave’ Rennie has knit a coherent team.

And a single pattern book to for all to knit from.

Something seems simple, and right, about this development, from a viewpoint amongst a tired Wallabies supporters group, watching on from outside the renovation fence.

But this team has won three on the trot, and a game beckons tomorrow night.

Could Rennie’s ‘Dad’n’Dave’ Army mix of elder and joey macropods hop over the 15 South American carnivores looking for revenge for last week’s score, and this week’s Byron visitor logistics?

Could Latin passion stung by cruel circumstances and rotten scheduling throw out a tripping trap?

Might Skippy drop, rather than hop, on the morrow? Could any more metaphors be mangled into service?

Tomorrow night will reveal how solid the Rennievated structure is. For a long time, I have wondered what a wily NZ coach would do with our Wallaby stock. And in Dave we have an answer. And some trust (for some of us, at least).

I liked Robbie Deans. A lot. But, in hindsight, he and we were culturally naive to think that Robbie’s gentle Canterbrian style would translate to that distracted amigo-led lot of yesteryear.

But back to Dave, our Aussie Dave. He has a team- ScoJo Wisemantel, Dan Mc, Taylor (did I miss any?) in support. Together they have set a dignified direction for an Australian team. Not just a Test team. A model team for any level. A culture of ‘team’. The one with no ‘I’ (but a lot of resonant skill) in it.

We could do with a bit of that at Super level. And at NRC level (or at ‘How about we even have an NRC?’ level).

(Photo by Chris Hyde/Getty Images)

WHAT HAS ALL THIS GOT TO DO WITH Super Rugby?

Back to Stu, and his wish for some Possible vs Probable action.

Stu is not alone in wanting to see the broader squad members perform at Tier1.5. (Not a test. Not Super). Such a talent display and distillation would be great for fans, player exposure and selector/developer IP. Agreed, Stu.

But in a crowded schedule where would such game(s) fit in?

What if such a spectacle was part of our existing schedule, and simultaneously enabled our provincial contact with New Zealand to be more competitive, marketable, and profitable?

That is, what if Australian Super players could once more, unto the breach, ‘frighten’ the five rugby factories to the east?

What if some of such games were simultaneously part of an early WB pre-test season?

Following is my draft Trans-Tasman model, modestly titled –

Another leg of rugby: The Trans-Tasman distillation

I’ve mentioned this idea on these boards before, but not as a stand-alone article.

1. Background
New Zealanders are rugby intelligent. (To those assuming that I am buying 50% of the Roar votes here, you’d be right).

NZers have for some time asked us to reduce our super team numbers.

We are “spread too thin” is one common observation. Oz rugby can’t sustain 5 Super sides, they say. (And this year’s OZ TT results beg for action).

Well we once tried to cull. We flicked the Force. But they boomeranged. And who looks silly now, after the Tahs finished last in both phases of the SR competition? Flicking doesn’t work anymore. Too many fans in inconvenient places, like Perth. Too many boomerangs.

Plus most of Oz purists believe that we need as much national footprint as we can possibly get. (Okay Aussies have big feet, but there’s still plenty of red dust unprinted). We need at least 5 pro teams hopping forward. If not more, (if not an NRC again, one day)

So how do we reconcile a “No Culling” policy at home, with

“Just Send Us Three Teams Bro” from across the ditch when it is marsupial massacre season next?

2. Foreground
Oz rugby may build a strong future, but has not yet a strong present.

Here are the distillation details-

Detail 1: Let the domestic leg of Super Rugby run with as many teams as each nation wishes. For Australia presently that would be 5. All franchises supported equally by RA.

Detail 2: When the international phase of competition arrives, NZ provides its usual five teams. Pasifika would provide two. Both these numbers are currently proposed.

But here’s the radical bit – Australia only offers 3 teams to this short phase of competition.

Detail 3: The 3 OZ teams offered to the Trans-Tasman phase of the competition, are to be made up of:

i) the SRAU winner, This year it was the Reds.

i) Possible/Probable Rep team1 Green

iii) Possible/Probable Rep team2 Gold

These two Rep teams to be formed from the best players from the four OZ wooden spooner franchises.

Eg. This season would’ve seen a TT with
1. Reds
2. Oz 1 (Brums and Rebs’best) or 2+5 ranking
3. Oz 2 (Tahs and Force’s best) or 3+4 ranking

Detail 4: These two Rep teams form an early Wallaby squad formation, to be designed and supervised by the WB coaching and development squad with assistance from Super coaches, and resourced at franchise level.

3. Potential positives:
– Increased depth in Oz TT squads

– Increased competitiveness against NZ SR excellence

– Growth in OZ elite coaching competence

– Early squad gathering and development of WB possibles for Rennie and Co., a potential boon in light of Pumas rise after the Jaguares’ cohesion over time.

– If competitiveness increases so will the engagement of fans and sponsors. This level of fun might lead to more fun ticket$?

– Retention of all SRAU franchises, before and after the TT leg of competition (ie. no more Force farces, an event decided on under external pressure)

– An increase in OZ cross-franchise cooperation and systems resonance over the broad Wallaby catchment.

4. THIS IDEA IS SHORT TERM – an experiment

This proposal is intended as a short-term development experiment to serve the code in the region. while increasing its quality.

If and when Australian Super squads increase in strength such a model would be abandoned for one more appropriate, such as a full provincial comp including all OZ franchises.

But for now, while OZ rugby rebuilds its Tier 2 competence, audience and depth, who wouldn’t love to see an increase in competitiveness in Trans-Tasman contests, while still allowing all Australian franchises to live, prosper and retain fans either side of the TT phase?

So, Roarers, I’ve set up my dartboard. I expect some darts. Shoot straight at me.

The Crowd Says:

2022-10-19T01:01:57+00:00

SDRedsFan

Roar Rookie


I'm a bit late to the party Ken, but that's a really interesting article and I'm generally supportive because I think the two "rep" teams you're proposing are pretty similar to Aus A that we've seen running around this year, and I'd be more than happy to watch them play. I really don't know what the solution is. I'd be happy with a much longer Super AU season where our 5 teams (6 maybe including Fiji) play each other more often, hopefully with a few games in the regions for those of us that don't live in the city. I really enjoyed watching just the Aussie teams in SRAU. I'm not that much of a rugby tragic that I watch teams from other countries, unless it's the World Cup (I'm loving the Women's World Cup) or Comm Games 7s, etc. Tribalism is definitely important - working out how rugby in Australia can grow it is the million dollar question.

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2021-10-29T23:05:42+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


Thanks Joe. Yes, your suggestions are worth investigation. And I take your point regarding ‘brand names’. As you say your model achieves ‘distillation’ of talent and adds depth to our SRP challenge. That goal is achieved. However there is another aspect to my model. And that is the ‘early camp’ for the WB squad. Because what does a Force fan or a Tah fan look forward to if their team misses out on a shot at SRP? The Wallabies is the answer. And it is arguable that Hooper ‘filling in’ at 7 at the Reds, who won this year, would be very confusing for the Reds brand, not to mention backrow shape, and the stocks of Wright and McReight. I need to repeat, my suggested model works off an assumption of a shorter SRP competition. It’s a short period in a long rugby year. My idea is to add prep time for WB prospects as much as to increase depth in OZ SR squads offered to SRP. The correct mix is not something I claim to know. But a commitment to look for one would be a start, eh? Thanks for your input, Joe.

2021-10-29T22:13:10+00:00

Joe King

Roar Rookie


Hi KCOL, sorry getting back to this so late. I hope you're able to read this. I'm not sure what you mean by "First3 past the post". Your suggestion is the winner of SR AU qualifies for SRP + 2 other Australian teams, which are made up by combining the other 4 SR AU teams. Is that correct? I'm suggesting each year, the top 2 (or 3) SR AU teams qualify for SRP, which are then bolstered by drafting in the best players from the SR AU teams that didn't qualify. So it's not much different to yours with the 2 (or 3) Australian teams in SRP being made up by combining them with the other teams. We end up with all the best players in 2 (or 3) Australian teams ready for SRP. It keeps all the advantages of yours I listed above. The only difference is, it involves no new brand names. I don't mind having 3 Australian teams in SRP, but I think having only 2 would be even better for the cohesion of the Wallabies.

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2021-10-18T08:41:33+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


Understood. I wait with interest.

2021-10-18T07:13:01+00:00

Muglair

Roar Rookie


He hopes to get back to me in a couple of days, apparently Monday is a bit busy, weekends aren't great for everyone :laughing: I sent him an email outlining what I was suggesting, a draft launch article and a draft of the first paper, which is on the flaws of the current constitution. We can't really suggest the right governance model until we have a clearer picture on the way forward, but I think it is important to understand why nothing is ever done. It is a bit bigger than just a group collaboration and it will make sense when you see it. Nothing I have done will be cast in stone, but we also don't have to be perfect either.

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2021-10-18T04:03:29+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


Great Mugs. Yes, well done. I was wondering where it was buried. He must be busy. It’s essentially a group article/series to brainstorm a way forward, would you agree?

2021-10-17T23:39:52+00:00

Muglair

Roar Rookie


I have sent off a proposal to Tony this morning together with some drafts of a couple of suggested articles. Coincidentally I had raised a similar idea with him a week or so beforehand and I was briefly sidelined from taking the next step. He is pretty well stretched so I reckon it is a good scheme to get a sub group going to move it ahead. I have asked him to send you my contact details.

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2021-10-05T02:10:59+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


Excellent point Tim. Many have pointed to coaching as our weakest link, and this model intends to up-level coaches, admin and players to higher performance expectations.

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2021-10-04T23:28:53+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


Noted Mugs. I have 8tred for other words. I hope you don’t mind if others use them to make a point? Perhaps we could begin a set of defined terms within an agreed lexicon? :happy: Raelene from marketing, much like Pulver from marketing, were cases of token swallows being sent in to do the work of whole summers. MacQueen was also in marketing back when the world was young, and responsive to innovation.

2021-10-04T22:59:15+00:00

Muglair

Roar Rookie


Warning I hate "tribalism" as much as "grassroots". Words without real meaning that sort of describe all of the failings of RA while used by RA as descriptions of how they will fix the game. You can't create tribalism and it is just a new word to describe parochialism or whatever we used to call NRL club fans or rugby club /Waratah / Reds supporters. Rugby's problems stem from the fact that they are unable to get any of the tribes along to see games. Despite all of the "marketing" people brought in to the administration including executive and board level. It was supposed to be one of Castle's points of difference.

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2021-10-04T17:59:31+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


Note :the misspelling of Shute Shield above was not intentional. U and I are too close on my phone. I have had a long and happy association with Shute ahold, a comp with flaws certainly, but an example of tribalism worth emulating at other levels.

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2021-10-04T17:53:49+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


Cheers Josh. It is hoped that we might be able to plan our way out of here towards a vibrant Oz rugby culture.

2021-10-04T09:41:29+00:00

Josh Cake

Roar Rookie


Great article - I appreciate the attitude behind your concept, one of positive thinking and good-willed risk-taking.

2021-10-04T03:49:29+00:00

Paul

Roar Rookie


KCOL I think the success of the squad is a mix of experienced leadership and youthful enthusiasm for sure. Kellaway is a great example of players doing their job. He's putting himself in the right place at the right time.

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2021-10-04T01:45:02+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


Great Mugs, I’ve pitched it to Tony, with mention of a few of the positive and polite who come on here. If he likes it you may get an email.

2021-10-04T01:40:14+00:00

Muglair

Roar Rookie


KCOL that is a very good idea and I fully support you running it past Tony. ARU/RA has conducted numerous reviews but you would hardly know they have, because they are never published and I have never met anyone who has participated. I think the Roar can conduct a very effective review of rugby in Australia and develop a far superior strategic plan because of the range of stakeholders across geographies that contribute here every day. The tricky bit will be figuring out how to pull it all together in the end. Not to mention keeping everybody in brainstorming mode, parochialism has always been the biggest enemy of rugby progress.

2021-10-04T01:19:06+00:00

Tim

Roar Rookie


Coaching staff to be drafted as well!

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2021-10-03T23:48:53+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


Muglair, I just had an idea. Perhaps we could arrange a healthy argument on this forum, made up of semi-usual suspects, yourself and I being two, to nut out a path ‘outa here’. An simple brainstorm amongst passionate punters imagining ideal comp formats and structural evolutions, addressing specifics such as: - Tribal enhancement - Player depth - Grassroots to elite pathways - How many tiers is enough - How to finance a national comp - SuperAU 5 or NRC 10 - Financing change Huge cans of worms potentially. Maybe the forum could attempt one issue at a time, to limit the worms? I will run it by Tony. I would appreciate your thoughts.

2021-10-03T22:27:50+00:00

Muglair

Roar Rookie


Some time back when new competitions were being devised, just prior to Hamish's master/servant statements etc. Rugby Australia took months to decide what they wanted to do in 2022; SR AU or agree to participate in the format proposed. The problem with RA is that they have never been able to get anybody interested in attending ARC/NRC games. Maybe this year has finally convinced SR provinces that they have to completely reinvent the standards they train and play against. I still have reservations about our systems' ability to produce players ready for SR. The real risk is that having got our Wallabies up to genuine test level again they all split up and go back to SR teams that cannot support players maintaining the same standards. Our problem continues to be a lack of depth.

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2021-10-03T11:18:32+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


“ NZ’s offer of two sides”? Did I miss something there Muglair? Agree utterly that we need an NRC. But in a world where the powers that rule cannot or will not enable one, I have proposed this adjustment to our TT exposure. It is as much meant as a protection against ‘performance anxiety’ when we face well built and wildly followed NZ teams. This is intended to allow local teams to compete and grow without external pressure and as much overseas travel expense. In the engagement of the WB coaching and development team to supervise it is intended harvest more from the sunk costs of the WB high performance systems. Thanks for your input.

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