'JL hurt by the back stabbing': How will fans treat Cummins now after uncivil war between old and new guards?

By Tony Harper / Editor

Pat Cummins’ statement on why he wanted Justin Langer removed as Australia’s coach has begun an uneasy truce with the old guard, accepting the new skipper has gotten his way. But where the messy breakup leaves Cummins’ relationship with fans is less certain.

On Thursday, Michael Vaughan, Mike Hussey, Michael Atherton, Adam Gilchrist and Greg Chappell were among those who praised Pat Cummins for his statements a day earlier – variously using words such as “masterclass”, “impressive” and “proud” to describe the skipper’s statement, which was backed up by his media conference.

But take a look at any sports page’s social media post or comments section, or listen to enough talkback radio, and it’s not even close – there is an overwhelming majority – conservatively an 80-20 split – of support for Langer and disappointment through to disgust in how the former coach has been treated.

Until Cummins spoke on Wednesday much of the ire was aimed at Cricket Australia, almost as if there was disbelief that the players were actively backgrounding against the man who helmed a T20 World Cup win and Ashes triumph.

What plenty believed to be a media invention, or at least a media beat up, was proven to be the truth when Cummins left no doubt that he had wanted a new coach, while still finding time to praise Langer for what he had done in evolving the squad and the game post the Cape Town scandal.

It adds up to an intriguing 10 days for Cummins and the state of his relationship with cricket fans.

On Friday he will step onto the SCG for the first of five T20 international against Sri Lanka. With games in Sydney, Canberra and Melbourne, calm heads should prevail, but perhaps it’s a very good thing that Cummins doesn’t have to play in Perth right now.

Cummins copped a lot of flack from former players in the lead up to his media conference, where he made it clear he was sticking up for his mates. The obvious implication here is that the team wanted to move on from Langer.

(Photo by Mark Evans/Getty Images)

Hussey’s comments to RSN radio on Thursday spoke volumes.

An interview that was progressing on an expected path took a spiky detour when the host asked Hussey about the outrage of Langer’s mates against the current players.

While there is a divide growing between fans and their captain, it’s nothing like the gulf that currently exists between the team of now and the cohort of the early 2000s, including Hussey, Adam Gilchrist and Shane Warne.

Hussey was asked if he was surprised by the “anger from the former players, the great Australian players towards the current players”.

“Maybe a little bit, I guess,” said Hussey. “I put myself in that boat as well. We’re great friends of Justin and we know what sort of guy he is, he’s so passionate and looking from the outside in you think he’s done a fantastic job.

“We also know the character he is and he’s a really good person. I’m sure if you asked any of those current players they’d all say he’s a great person with great morals and values and he’s taught them a lot.

“What will hurt JL the most is a bit of disloyalty that’s gone on behind the scenes, and a little bit of back stabbing and leaks into the media, because he’s a loyal person and stands up for his mates.

“I’m not surprised but it has been pretty big outrage from a lot of the guys.”

Despite this Hussey was impressed by how Cummins confronted the situation.

“It’s the toughest stuff he’s had to deal with in his captaincy reign, the first real challenge,” Hussey said. “I was actually quite proud of him. Him stepping up to the plate.

“That’s the one thing I’ve been disappointed about – there’s been a lack of transparency throughout this whole thing.

“I wanted to know what was really going on because as an outsider looking in you think ‘how on earth are they making this decision about Justin Langer’ because the team’s winning, he’s done everything they’ve asked by taking a step back.

“There’s obviously things going on in that inner sanctum that they aren’t happy with so it was good for him to stand up and give more clarity on what’s going on, but also be respectful of JL as well.

“Pat Cummins standing up and facing those tough questions and being open and honest about what he feels … that’s a really good start.

“I don’t like the players having too much power, but the relationship between coach and captain is really important and Pat obviously doesn’t feel like Justin is the right person to take the team forward.”

(Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

Cummins was praised for his forthright approach by others.

“He’s an impressive young man. I have no doubt we’ve got a wonderful captain and leader in Pat,” said former skipper Greg Chappell on SEN on Thursday.

“Nobody would have been happy about what’s gone on in the last few weeks. I thought he covered things extremely well… hopefully everyone can move on.”

Michael Vaughan, who was astonished to hear the Langer was deemed surplus to requirements by Australia and has come out strongly backing him as a potential England coach, was also impressed by Cummins’ response, calling it “a masterclass in delivering empathy.”

“That’s our skipper,” replied David Warner.

The Crowd Says:

2022-02-14T01:29:20+00:00

Clear as mud

Guest


yeah. let's even revoke his citizenship.

2022-02-14T00:06:13+00:00

matth

Roar Guru


You cannot run a national representative team of 11 to 15 players when 'several senior players and support staff', including the captain, don't get on with the coach.

2022-02-14T00:03:26+00:00

matth

Roar Guru


They are all grown ups, they will be fine. this is not the first time in history that person who wanted a new contract didn't get one.

2022-02-13T23:59:30+00:00

matth

Roar Guru


I could imagine the discussions between the players. Langer had stepped back, things were gong better, but if he was given another 3-4 years, would he revert to type? How would he go when things get tough overseas and there's nowhere for the players to go? I suspect they felt they had to move now at the end of this contract.

2022-02-13T00:14:11+00:00

Paul

Guest


Warner is poison to the Australian team and makes bugger all runs now I will glad to see the back of this guy he has been a bad representative of Australia cricket and Australia in general

2022-02-11T06:30:17+00:00

Akitas

Roar Rookie


A number of players have indicated that they had no knowledge of what was happening. I think it's fair to say that Khawaja, Carey, Green, Richardson, Boland, Neser and perhaps Head, had no part in it. My main suspects would be Warner, Smith, Lyon and Cummins.

2022-02-11T06:27:06+00:00

Akitas

Roar Rookie


I absolutely agree. I doubt we will ever know exactly what Cummins' role was, unless someone else in the player group grows a pair and tells the truth. Cummins "statement" was just another prepared, mealy-mouth piece of self justification, which carries no weight at all with me.

2022-02-11T05:43:10+00:00

BBBT

Roar Rookie


The state of your writing over the last month or so :laughing:

AUTHOR

2022-02-11T05:18:10+00:00

Tony Harper

Editor


The state of this comment :laughing:

2022-02-11T00:51:58+00:00

No9

Roar Rookie


Cummins disappointed me . What was his position in the turmoil of the Langer de facto sacking ? Was he one of the " several senior players " named by Langer as responsible for his removal ? Or was he , as Captain , some distance from support for that group ? If he was one of the "several players " then I will never ever support him . That group did not have full support of the team . There were "several " of them only . They behaved badly .It seems they not only voiced their opinion but actively demanded Langer be removed . It was not their decision .It was the decision of the Board .Player power ? The tail wagging the dog ? If he was an appeaser of that group then I blame him also . Strong Captains are not appeasers .Strong Captains quash trouble makers not meekly give in to them . I continue to wonder : was Cummins an appeaser or was he a Langer removal activist? On either ground I will never support him as Captain .I am a mere supporter only but I have observed quite a number of Australian Captains .Some of whom were Great Captains . I will never include Cummins among them .

2022-02-11T00:50:02+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


...and he was a winner.

2022-02-11T00:09:06+00:00

Jack Russell

Roar Guru


Only in the boardroom. In the court of public opinion, Langer was well regarded. That's why CA has come away looking so bad.

2022-02-11T00:07:13+00:00

Jack Russell

Roar Guru


They are both very good questions.

2022-02-10T21:45:53+00:00

Clear as mud

Guest


I feel for Cam but there were signs his continued selection was as much about his malleability as about his derring do with the willow. He should have been protected. Maybe he didn’t know who to trust.

2022-02-10T21:43:04+00:00

Clear as mud

Guest


You dropped an apostrophe (You realise your comment makes no sense? Langer was coach and selector when Warner was bizarrely not dropped in 2019. There are now two new selectors. From TAS and Vic. Who have shown no fear or favour eg backing Boland in. The selector-coach post Pakistan won’t be from NSW I suspect but presumably would defer to Bailey and Dodders no matter. Warner will survive on runs. Or be dropped as Harris was. Many of us on here live in NSW and may not even support them eg me. Where are you from, and what did NSW ever do to you to damage you so badly?)

2022-02-10T21:36:19+00:00

Clear as mud

Guest


She is Wild Mountain Thyme

2022-02-10T21:34:01+00:00

Clear as mud

Guest


Less TV and more logic training required I think. Plead the 5th? No, stat Dec denying any and all involvement.

2022-02-10T21:10:04+00:00

XI

Roar Guru


She changed it back to its original spelling last year.

2022-02-10T18:38:15+00:00

Mark

Guest


Pat Cummins was part of the Sandpaper squad, but plead the 5th! Langer bought in to clean up the squad after the Sandpaper incident. Langer did the job changed the culture (or so we thought) , but Pat wants to return to the Sandpaper culture. So be it. Main actors in the Sandpaper scandal are not back in charge......

2022-02-10T14:26:04+00:00

Gee

Roar Rookie


Warner got his way, safe for another 6 month of embarrassing scores OS but in no danger of being dropped. NSW boys network :thumbup:

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