Why aren't Australia's footballers as good as our managers?

By Stuart Thomas / Expert

Ange Postecoglou’s Celtic beat Livingston 3-1 on Sunday afternoon and Australia’s highest achieving football coach stands within a few solid months of claiming the Scottish Premiership in his first season at the helm.

Prior to a ball being kicked, there was much scepticism around whether the man now lovingly known as ‘Big Ange’ by the Celtic fans was the right person to be overseeing their club’s resurgence.

Some were openly critical, while others were more prepared to see what the 56-year-old had to offer.

His blunt, honest and unique press conferences will become stuff of Celtic legend. He mocked journalists who called the season all done and dusted when Rangers opened a point’s gap at the top of the ladder, then calmly watched his vision come to life in the following months.

(Photo by Ian MacNicol/Getty Images)

Elsewhere, Kevin Muscat’s Yokohama F.Marinos have begun the new J-League season with a bang. Three wins and a draw from their opening five matches have the club nominally top, matched only on points by last season’s champions Kawasaki Frontale.

Despite some disparity in the number of matches played, the two clubs could be destined to fight it out for the championship once again after occupying the top two spots last season.

Muscat is doing brilliantly in Japan, in spite of concerns around his style adapting to the Japanese game.

To this point, he has presented nothing but organised and highly competitive teams on a week-to-week basis and like Postecoglou, he must be drawing attention from third parties keen to improve their coaching stocks elsewhere.

Currently, Postecoglou has a 70 per cent success rate in Scotland and Muscat has a 56 per cent success rate in Japan, both impressive returns.

Alen Stajcic did what many thought unlikely and led the Philippines national women’s team to the knockout phase of the recent Asian Cup tournament, where the Matildas collapsed rather embarrassingly.

Entering the tournament ranked only higher than Indonesia, Stajcic guided his team to two group wins, then they toppled Chinese Taipei on penalties in the quarter-final, before eventually losing to Australia’s conqueror South Korea in the last four.

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After incredible success at the Central Coast Mariners in 2020-21, Stajcic’s achievements suggest he is one of the best minds in the business, despite Football Australia appearing to think otherwise.

In 2019, Joe Montemurro was a nominee for the FIFA World Women’s Coach of the Year award and rumours continue to circle about the future of Patrick Kisnorbo, with a second title at Melbourne City potentially stamping his credentials as a coach deserving of opportunity elsewhere.

It appears that domestic football in Australia is producing top-quality football managers, as well as others with the potential to go abroad, hone their craft and transfer their skills to major overseas leagues.

Many would hold the view that the same cannot be said of our players. Certainly little criticism could be levelled at the talent being produced on the women’s side, with all bar a handful of Matildas playing in the biggest European leagues.

Yet in Australian men’s football, the question is commonly asked as to just where is the next wave of stars to replace those who once competed at the elite level in Europe?

These days we celebrate when a player like Riley McGree earns an opportunity in the EPL or Awer Mabil experiences Champions League football for his Danish parent club Midtjylland and the majority of our men abroad are second- or third-tier players, with many still returning home seeking contracts after struggling to ingrain themselves at their overseas clubs.

Mathew Ryan, Tom Rogic and Ajdin Hrustic are outliers yet even Ryan now finds himself in something of a pickle when it comes to playing minutes at Real Sociedad.

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Moreover, the Scottish Premiership is far from the class of the English version and Rogic is simply not of that standard, and while Hrustic has played 20 times for Eintracht Frankfurt, he is still far from an automatic pick each week.

Two clear schools of thought arise from such a discussion.

One claims the A-League Men and poor domestic coaching and player development are responsible for the dearth of Aussie men impressing in the biggest European leagues.

A second might suggest that thus is football, as a truly global, hyper-competitive and more popular and participant-friendly game.

Just as Australian tennis players once dominated the sport, the increased participation of previously disinterested nations shifted the balance of power.

A heck of a lot of young boys who may well have achieved their goals and played in the top flight of English football some 30 years ago now stand little chance, with the number of African and Asian players in the league having exploded.

Many of the Australians who played in that period may also have struggled to achieve the same, had the current financial situation and world participation levels been in existence during their time in the game.

No doubt the A-League Men is not of the level we would like to see, academies are problematic and junior development is far from perfect.

However, are we expecting just a little too much from our highly accomplished players, especially considering the manically competitive nature of the modern game?

Is judgement being passed based on decades earlier when the landscape was incredibly different?

In part, I would say yes to that, yet for some reason our managers seem to be able to buck the trend.

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The Crowd Says:

2022-03-11T03:12:52+00:00

coolncold

Roar Rookie


I swear I posted the question minutes ago before googling with the same question. The result is below. "He's won everything in Australia and did the same in Japan. Yet before arriving at Celtic, fans were disgusted. Now, just a few months later, they sing of their love for Postecoglou. So MIKE COLMAN asks, is he ready for football's biggest stage of all?" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10188911/Celtic-Ange-Postecoglou-coach-English-Premier-League-writes-Mike-Colman.html Friday, Mar 11th 2022 by MailOnline Australia Today! What a coincidence.

2022-03-11T03:05:22+00:00

coolncold

Roar Rookie


Will Ange Postecoglou coach an EPL club someday in the next 5 years?

2022-03-08T21:27:24+00:00

stu

Guest


Seems as though the inference is made in the article that Australian football players were a dominant force in world football then other nations with growing interest in the game forced an end to this dominance. Am I reading this correctly?

2022-03-08T09:28:27+00:00

Mark (different to the one below)

Guest


Ange managing a mid-to-lower table EPL team would be like watching Australia at the 2014 World Cup. It would be entertaining, but they would get relegated, probably challenging records for goals scored and goals conceded by relegated teams. Ange has his strengths and has done well in certain circumstances, but he’s too tactically naive and one dimensional to cut it with the type of Premier League team that may be inclined to give him a chance.

2022-03-08T08:35:43+00:00

Tigertown

Guest


Staj coaching the Socceroos. Now there’s a headline. Hey, anything is possible.

2022-03-08T06:47:19+00:00

Snags

Roar Rookie


Agree 100%

AUTHOR

2022-03-08T06:13:42+00:00

Stuart Thomas

Expert


I actually did provide that caveat in relation to women's football in the early paragraphs but I see your point.

AUTHOR

2022-03-08T06:12:43+00:00

Stuart Thomas

Expert


Interesting thoughts. Thanks. I'm pondering on this.

AUTHOR

2022-03-08T06:10:10+00:00

Stuart Thomas

Expert


And potentially why Kisnorbo will get an opportunity sooner rather than later.

AUTHOR

2022-03-08T06:09:32+00:00

Stuart Thomas

Expert


The next move for Stajcic will be interesting and telling. He has immense ability and deserves a big gig to prove it. Where will he end up?

AUTHOR

2022-03-08T06:08:20+00:00

Stuart Thomas

Expert


100% agree, although not a nice point to make. Reality though.

AUTHOR

2022-03-08T06:07:47+00:00

Stuart Thomas

Expert


I see your point but I'd still suggest the managers are out-performing the players. I don't see Japanese clubs seeking out much Australian talent and aside from Rogic and Atkinson in Scotland, they too are not beating a path to our door. Our gaffers appear to be getting good gigs abroad and succeeding, yet of few players could we say the same.

AUTHOR

2022-03-08T06:03:49+00:00

Stuart Thomas

Expert


When you keep turning up in different spots and being a winner, those doubts slowly slide away. I reckon this Celtic gig has finally shut up any doubters who remained, a terrific manager.

AUTHOR

2022-03-08T06:02:12+00:00

Stuart Thomas

Expert


His next step will be interesting. More than capable of an EPL gig but will he ever get the chance?

2022-03-08T05:24:31+00:00

Amalia Tarquinio

Guest


Maybe Australia should be asking how they are being left behind the rest of the world. The game played here is it as technical as all the other leagues or are we relying still too much on the physicality of the game.? How do our young players compare to other countries and is the talent recruitment up to same standards and quality development of else where? How do we rate and what is the problem?

2022-03-08T04:54:37+00:00

Football is Life

Roar Rookie


Stu, great article and good question well asked. I would have to say that you cannot put the egg before the chicken. We needed to build a national standard through the process of knowledge acquistion from established football nations e.g. the Dutch and the Germans. The acquired knowledge enabled us to create something that was viable, effective and most importantly contextual to Australia. The resulting construct also provided us with a benchmark and thus we had an education standard for managers. The next logical step is to build managers who actually met that standard, who were educated, and who were genuine football people, not Jimmy's Dad taking the kids for a kick down the park and labelling it training. Now that we have a production line of quality managers, because they have to undergo education etc if they are going to have any serious input to the development of players, we are starting to produce the first versions of developed Australian footballers. When we have been doing this for example another 20 years, the mind boggles at what we will be producing. The endorsement comes from the likes of Nathaniel Atkinson and Cam Devlin, plying their trade at Hearts. Scotland, Japan and Sth Korea are now aware of a potential goldmine of talent that the rest of the world is not really looking at yet. Watch what happens. Said it before and I will say it again, the evolution of Australian football cannot happen fast enough.

2022-03-08T04:37:18+00:00

Lionheart

Roar Rookie


Could stumble a little with flood damage. Help out if you can.

2022-03-08T03:57:55+00:00

TheSecretScout

Roar Guru


born in the UK, came here as a young child - no issues with passport i don't like to normally reveal where i have players rated based purely on developemental metrics - but he is easily in the top 10 under age midfielders in australia if you narrow it down solely to a classic #6 or #8 midfielders attrivutes, he is then in the top 5 - now that hes starting to add playmaking to his ever growing ability, he is comfortably in the top 3 he is the only south australian midfielder in my top 10, which funnily enough is dominated by qld players

2022-03-08T03:17:21+00:00

Nick Symonds

Guest


"Why aren't Australia's footballers as good as our managers?" - Well most of them would have to be better than Graham Arnold. When you have someone who selects 3 players in the starting front 4 who have goals per match ratios of 1 goal every 20 matches at club level, it doesn't reflect Australia's full strength. Seriously though, how many players to you have to go past before you get to one who only scores once every twenty matches?

2022-03-08T03:02:57+00:00

sportstar111

Roar Rookie


he’s a brilliant talent imo and a brilliant discovery on your part AA, everything good in the team goes through him . best midfielder for his age in the country that i’ve seen. does he have an english passport??

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