In Ange they trust: Postecoglou's Celtic lift Scottish title

Striking a balance between development and winning is the hard part.

Is that APL or FA’s responsibility? The only team doing that at the moment is City. Adelaide, mariners and Newcastle seem to be trying as well.

Good point about Rangers being way in front and being a decent team at that.

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Yes I came across him when playing against his FNSW youth teams. He seemed ok, but apparently his quite the arrogant so and so.

But that is a generational thing. He could not solve that from his position as head coach. He wanted them to play a certain way, and they literally could not do it. He was tactically outsmarted as well. It's fine that he wanted to change the way that we play football as a nation from the top down, but on the way to the holy grail of our whole country from juniors up playing angeball surely he knew he;d cop a certain amount of criticism for his lack of pragmatism on the jounrey as teams copped hidings or failed to beat minnows. My local club developed their curriculum in consultaiton with Ange actually. And our kids are asked to do amazingly crazy things all the time that put them under pressure to develop as footballers, with a total lack of care as to whether we win or not. I can tell you, this is basically the approach he took with our national team. It does lead to loads of confusion from players and parents even at pre NPL levels. It's just the way that it is until the players develop. Everyone else is kicking it long and winning games rushing at us as we make multiple short passes in front of goal. Ultimately, Ange did not have the stomach to see his project through. I don't know what he expected when people could see that the team were vulnerable every time they played.

Eddie Jones is the only one I can think of. His CV is: 1. as a young coach revolutonized the Brumbies style of play to lead them to their first Super title when previously they were a bit of a joke; 2. Coached Australia to a WC final, beating NZ on the way; 3. Assistant coach when SA won the WC, and by all reports was the tactical mastermind of that win not Jake White 4. Coached Japan to beat South Africa (only one game but if you know rugby you'll understand how exceptional that was) 5. Several 6 nations titles for England and a WC final, beating NZ on the way. Very impressive, but still not in Ange's league.

Easily our best ever football coach. This is an incredible achievement, even accounting for the fact that it's a two horse race, the other horse started half a lap in front and has just shown us how good they are advancing in Europe. Ange rebuilt the squad with the most astute of signings (saving plenty of $ doing so ... he didn't just buy some known 'stars' off the shelf) and accelerated his usual two season approach in terms of getting them to play his way. All that with the pressure of expecation like you would not believe. But ... no reason why it was wrong to be sceptical with him as 'Roos coach. In my view being club and international coach are apples and oranges in terms of skill sets. You don't have the same lee-way to build a team. He sort of took a National director approach, he was after generational change in the style of play, and that led to tactical blunders when his job was simply to qualify and have the team be competitive.

Haha you're not wrong, need them to slow down to understand what they're saying!

You could easily add Scotland under the different language column :).....I remember watching a Glaswegian crime drama back in the 90s that had subtitles when it was screened here in Oz.

hear hear to all these comments... Ange is arguably Australia's greatest ever international coach. Eddie Jones, Brian Goorjian, Brett Brown...reckon Ange has em covered with this win. And he'll surely go on to mainland Europe. Would love to think he'll come home at some stage for the NT but it's gotta be slim. Pity. Amazing manager, brilliant bloke.

He drew with Thailand from a winning position, why if you’re in charge of the FFA would you give a bloke free reign if he cant get the wood on Thailand??? I just think he didn’t have the cattle, and because of his ethos’ of not compromising, it doesn’t fit with the issues within the team.

He's not lacking in confidence :laughing: :laughing:

I often wonder about his role at MVFC, he set them up well but it was Muscat took them that little bit further with more killer instinct and hence he brought the trophies whereas Ange didn't. But Muscat has some form now of taking Ange's teams, I wonder how he'll go without Ange's imprint on the team.

Perhaps Alan Jones would put himself forward for his achievements in rugby and rugby league. I'm sure he'd talk himself up!

Australia World Cup qualification, which I know is through Asia. And Melbourne Victory were travelling well when he left. Maybe we could add in all the coaches he has mentored, who have gone on to bigger jobs.

Good Man. Well deserved.

foz has some "interesting" views, not sure if i agree with much of them for the past few years only met him twice briefly in passing at events, so i havent got anything bad to say - except he has one of the limpest hand shakes i've ever experienced lol

Never said he wasn't wanted, though some pundits ex socceroos wanted him gone, but I said he wasn't backed, given the free reign to change the way we play football in this country.

I don't disagree, but it was the only other global area I could think of where there has been success. Are you able to think of a comparison to his success, because I can't? And if we can't he must be the most successful ever Australian coach!