Rugby News: RA threatens to quit Super Rugby, Skelton 'hurt' by England tour snub, Ella feted as Cook Cup name axed

By The Roar / Editor

Rugby Australia has threatened to end its Super Rugby association with New Zealand and focus on an NRL-style domestic only competition from 2024 onwards.

Fox Sports reports that RA chairman Hamish McLennan has told New Zealand Rugby they were strongly considering calling it a day on their partnership following the 2023 Super Rugby Pacific season.

“We’ll honour our commitments in ’23 but we need to see what’s best for rugby in Australia leading up to the RWC in Australia in ’27,” McLennan told Fox Sports.

“All bets are off from ’24 onwards with NZ.”

Fox said there has been lingering bitterness between the nations since former NZR Chairman Brent Impey cut adrift South Africa and Argentina following the onset of Covid-19.

NZR told Australia that it only wanted two Aussie teams in Super Rugby Pacific, but it is reported NZR told RA officials they got it wrong.

McLennan and RA board member Phil Waugh informed NZR chair Stewart Mitchell they were considering walking away at a dinner earlier this month.

It was reported that RA would consider new teams if going alone.

‘It hurts not to be selected’

Will Skelton says he hasn’t heard from Wallabies coach Dave Rennie since just after the Spring Tour, and is disappointed he won’t be facing England in the three-Test series next month even though he saw the decision coming.

Skelton has been in eye-catching form in French and European rugby for La Rochelle, and will be lining up at lock for Barbarians against the English on Sunday in the farewell match before Eddie Jones brings the old enemy down under.

Eligibility rules means Skelton won’t be involved. Rennie was restricted to three overseas based players and opted for the Japan-based trio of Quade Cooper, Samu Kerevi and Marika Koroibete.

“It’s something I always look forward to,” Skelton said of playing for the Wallabies on the RugbyPass Offload podcast.

“I obviously played in November and I haven’t had much contact after that. I think I spoke to Rens a week after we broke up and I haven’t had much contact.

(Photo by Dan Mullan/Getty Images)

“In my head I had an inkling that they’d pick those Japanese boys – the season’s aligned with Super Rugby and the Japanese league and with us having such a long season I know from the chats that we had in November they were almost not going to pick us.

“It hurts not to be selected but that’s life and it’s nothing you can control.”

Skelton was also quizzed about his time playing for former Wallabies coach Michael Cheika and revealed a classic piece of motivation from the 2014 Super Rugby final when Skelton was at the Tahs under the coach.

“He was great,” Skelton said. “If I played well the week before and it was a big game and he put me me on the bench he’d come up to me and go ‘mate it’s just a gut feel.’ I literally can’t argue with you there. I can’t question your gut.

“I think coaches nowadays almost pick apart your game, and that’s something I did admire about Cheik is he was straight up.”

Skelton added: “He always had some crazy , pre-match motivational speeches. Before our final in 2014 it was really cool. He got a bag of golf clubs with all our names on them.

“He handed one to each player and the theme behind it was to just let the club go, just to release. Straight away we took golf swings and literally let the clubs go, we were smashing the clubs. The whole change room at ANZ there were pieces of golf clubs everywhere.”

Wallabies No.8 Harry Wilson joins Brett McKay and Harry Jones to talk selection for the England series on this week’s podcast

Cook Cup to be renamed

Wallabies legend Mark Ella will honoured as the Cook Cup – the trophy contested between Australia and England – is to be renamed ahead of the first Test in Perth.

The Sydney Morning Herald reports that the trophy will be renamed the Ella-Mobbs trophy, also named after English war hero Edgar Mobbs.

The Herald says Rugby Australia and the RFU have agreed to retire the 25-year-old crystal trophy named after Captain James Cook, who it says has become a divisive figure in Austrlaian cociety.

The trophy will be unveiled on the Friday before the first Test in Perth, in time for NAIDOC week, which begins two days after the game on July 4.

Mobbs was an England winger killed in battle in France in 1917.

‘Proud Maori men’

Maori All Black head coach Clayton McMillan says TJ Perenara and Brad Weber are disappointed to have missed out on Ian Foster’s All Blacks squad but are ready to show their leadership in his team.

The pair will get to face Ireland for the Maori team, having been left out of the full squad in the toughest selection battle faced by Foster this week.

It will be the first time for Perenara in the Maori All Blacks. Weber has represented the team seven times.

“Naturally disappointed, which is to be expected, but also highly-motivated and excited about the opportunity to put the Maori jersey on. Brad has been here before,” McMillan said.

“This can hopefully be a platform for them to showcase that they’ve still got what’s required at the highest level.

“They’re both yappy, and I’m sure they’ll both want to start, but we haven’t thought that far ahead.”

TJ Perenara (Photo by Hagen Hopkins/Getty Images)

“They’re also proud Maori men.”

Perenara shared a message with his social media followers, posting an imagine of a black screen with the text BRB (be right back).

Meanwhile, Ireland Ireland will take five uncapped players to New Zealand to play five matches.

The Irish have lined up three tests against the All Blacks and two games against New Zealand Maori.

Coach Andy Farrell said the tour will provide the “ultimate” test and serve as vital preparation for next year’s World Cup.

Ireland have impressed for much of the past 18 months, winning 12 of their last 13 fixtures, including a pulsating defeat of Ian Foster’s Kiwis in Dublin in the autumn.

Yet many of Farrell’s squad are yet to experience international rugby outside Europe after the coronavirus pandemic forced the cancellation of a 2020 trip to Australia and last year’s proposed visit to Fiji.

“Any good performance that you’ve seen over the last two years, we need to be better than that,” Farrell said of the upcoming trip.

“It’s different over there and that’s why touring for these lads is some important. We’ve missed it.

“We’ve lads on 20-plus caps who’ve never toured. Walking around Auckland or Wellington or Dunedin, it’s not like walking down Ballsbridge (area of Dublin which is home to the Aviva Stadium) and people winding the window down and saying how good you are.

“This is completely different; this is proper international rugby that doesn’t get any better and it’s exactly what we want at this moment in time.

“We’re so excited about taking this squad to probably the hardest place in world rugby to go to and finding out about ourselves.

“This is the ultimate, isn’t it? We’re talking about building towards a World Cup and what you want to do in those type of circumstances is test yourself against the best.”

Ireland will play Test matches on July 2, 9 and 16 in Auckland, Dunedin and Wellington respectively, with midweek clashes against the Maori All Blacks scheduled for June 29 and July 12.

The uncapped players in the 40-man squad are Leinster No.8 Joe McCarthy, centre Ciaran Frawley and outside back Jimmy O’Brien, Munster prop Jeremy Loughman, and Connacht flanker Cian Prendergast.

There are five survivors of Ireland’s last tour of New Zealand in 2012: Cian Healy, Peter O’Mahony, Conor Murray, captain Jonathan Sexton and Keith Earls.

Healy, O’Mahony and Sexton were also in New Zealand for the Lions in the drawn series in 2017, along with Tadhg Furlong, Iain Henderson and Robbie Henshaw.

Not considered because of injury were hooker Ronan Kelleher and backs Chris Farrell, Robert Baloucoune and Andrew Conway.

Ireland have beaten the All Blacks three times, but never in New Zealand. 

Biggest area of concern for ABs

All Blacks assistant coach John Plumtree believes rivals have lifted their games physically and the Kiwis need to step up another level this year.

“We know we’ve got the skill, we know we’ve got the power but our physicality is going to have to go up a couple of notches this year,” he said this week.

“That’s our job, we’ve got to be able to get across the advantage line and consistently build pressure,” he said.

Plumtree said selectors believed No.8 Pita Gus Sowakula could help them make an impact in that area.

“He’s an experienced campaigner, he’s been around for a little bit, but I think this year, more particularly, we’ve seen him play more consistently,” said Plumtree.

“At the start of Super Rugby he was unbelievable. We’ve loved what he can bring to a game through his power.

“In international rugby momentum is hard to find, especially when defence is so flat. Pita Gus is one guy who can certainly dent a d-line, so we’re pretty happy with him.”

Care factor?

Danny Care has been told by England that he could figure in their plans for next year’s World Cup if he makes the most of his international comeback.

Care is hoping to play a role in Sunday’s fixture against the Barbarians at Twickenham after earning a surprise recall by Eddie Jones nearly four years after winning the last of his 84 caps.

Although a star of the Gallagher Premiership over the last two seasons through his influence as one of Harlequins’ main attacking threats, Care will be 36 by the time the World Cup is staged in 2023.

Forwards coach Richard Cockerill insists, however, that he will “definitely” be in Jones’ selection thoughts if he proves himself, with the non-cap international against the Barbarians and next month’s tour to Australia his immediate targets.

“If Danny’s playing well enough and he’s playing better than anybody else, whether they’re young or old, then he’ll come into contention,” Cockerill said.

“World Cups are about having that balance – having enough caps of experience to be able to control and manage the pressure, but also having those young guys who are so hungry.

“We need that balance in our group. I don’t think age will be a barrier, whether young or old. Guys will be picked on how well they’re playing.

“Danny is a competitor and wants to compete. He wouldn’t be here if he didn’t have that focus to go to the World Cup.

“He’s in great physical condition, even as a senior member of the squad. I’d say he’s very keen to compete for a spot.”

Care’s England career appeared to be over after being discarded by Jones in the wake of a 35-15 victory against Japan in November 2018.

But he has been at the heart of Harlequins’ revival over the past two seasons, forging a devastating half-back partnership with Marcus Smith that has thrilled audiences across the country.

“Danny’s been on great form for a little while now. He’s full of energy and life. He’s a good character and clearly a very good player, so he’s adding on and off the field,” Cockerill said.

“He’s very experienced. He’s worked with Eddie before, he’s worked with a lot of the guys who are in the squad now before.

“Danny has always been part of a selection conversation and Eddie thinks it’s the right time to bring him back into the fold to help the group.”

The Crowd Says:

2022-06-20T23:07:38+00:00

Censored Often

Roar Rookie


The trophy has been around for just 25 years - that's the link here.

2022-06-19T05:43:51+00:00

XI

Roar Guru


But he literally wasn't. Other English sailors had been here first. Plus the colonisation didn't happen until after his death. He's a very minor part of English-Australian history

2022-06-19T02:49:33+00:00

Check-side for the boundary

Roar Rookie


Or the distribution of Pacific Islander s ... :sick:

2022-06-19T02:47:59+00:00

Check-side for the boundary

Roar Rookie


Had it not been for Cook, .... We might been playing, the home country, France for a soccer trophy ...

2022-06-19T02:18:34+00:00

Muzzo

Roar Rookie


Well in a few cases around Aotearoa, the evidence is there to see. Especially some of the atrocities & genocide that the Brits had a big history of.

2022-06-19T02:07:34+00:00

liquorbox_

Roar Rookie


After how many years is it ok to be upset? Why is 25 years important? Would people be allowed to be upset if it was 100 years old?

2022-06-19T02:05:16+00:00

liquorbox_

Roar Rookie


He (with his crew) was the first common denominator between both countries? Something that is more important that sport.

2022-06-19T02:02:20+00:00

liquorbox_

Roar Rookie


Do you think in the current climate that it would be easy for traditional owner of the land to "recall" stories they heard about the evils committed by the invaders and these stories to be believed without any evidence? It seem the new history that is remembered without evidence is not very balanced.

2022-06-18T11:24:14+00:00

Charlie Turner

Guest


Lucky you. I think the Brisbane test will go our way. I'm still filthy about the last series against them.

2022-06-18T10:43:07+00:00

cs

Roar Guru


KP will have you up for hate speech! More seriously, there seems to me to be a substantive difference between not wishng to be drawn into a potentially extended argument over a passing observation amounting to two words, and you backing away from justifying your charge after already engaging in extended argument. I think I'm able to draw the logical inference. But yes, on to the Poms. I have pretty close to the best seats for the Brisbane test, I'm delighted to be able to boast! By golly, surely we must finally win ... the record is getting embarrassing.

2022-06-18T10:28:45+00:00

Charlie Turner

Guest


"Perhaps you will help me out with an example". You're not my responsibility. I hope the irony is not lost. Anyway onwards and upwards, bring on the PoMs.

2022-06-18T09:07:04+00:00

cs

Roar Guru


Perhaps you will help me out with examples? From my perspective, I've tried to argue strongly and confidently against prejudice and dogmatism and in favour of intellectual freedom. Perhaps you mistake my tone for the substance, but I stand to be corrected by your examples

2022-06-18T08:45:16+00:00

Charlie Turner

Guest


While i don't agree with everything you said I respect most of it. However you lost me with your humility remark. I suggest you reread your replies to Peter and Scrum. If you think you've projected humility then we have very different understandings of the word.

2022-06-18T08:30:44+00:00

cs

Roar Guru


And yet I'm the one who refuses to draw hard conclusions and readily admits the limits of my knowledge? Where is my arrogance in refusing your dogmatism? Perhaps you're upset because I called out your story about Ghengis? Do you object to citing sources on Roman history? Maybe you're just making it up as you go along, like Pinker. The truth, I suspect, is that you just don't like someone disagreeing with your preferred view of the world, but your arguments in reply are weak and so you're going personal (against Roar comments policy, note KP).

2022-06-18T08:12:43+00:00

Charlie Turner

Guest


:laughing: nah mate i just didn't think you'd provide an expiration window for your preferred life. I still think it's amusing that you're urging humility while displaying none. As Machiavelli said to Cesar Borgia, "you sir have and irony deficiency". Shout out to KP...chin up old mate.

2022-06-18T07:50:51+00:00

cs

Roar Guru


I'm talking about my preferred time. Are you resorting to character attacks because you've given up trying to explain how someone urging humility is arrogant? Keep this up and I'll report you to KP.

2022-06-18T07:43:03+00:00

Charlie Turner

Guest


Machiavelli 1469 - 1527

2022-06-18T07:30:18+00:00

cs

Roar Guru


Born in the first half. Lived till early 16th.

2022-06-18T07:19:13+00:00

Charlie Turner

Guest


…the first half of the 15th century. Good choice, Florence in the second half of the 15th century would’ve been too small to accomodate the intellectual overload of Machiavelli and yourself.

2022-06-18T05:20:50+00:00

cs

Roar Guru


I think the comment is condescending but don't wish to argue the point. Nothing to do with 'hate'. Not even impolite. Who's delusional?

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