Who do you think you are kidding, Mr Fittler? Numbers prove slow ruck speed benefits Blues

By Paul Suttor / Expert

Brad Fittler needs to be careful what he wishes for when it comes to play-the-ball speed.

The NSW coach was screaming Blue murder after Origin I due to the speed of the ruck and wants a quicker game this Sunday in Perth but his team actually goes better when the play-the-ball pace is slow.

On average, Queenslanders played the ball at 3.22 seconds while NSW were a touch slower at 3.4, which Fittler believes is evidence of the Maroons defenders being given too much leniency by referee Ashley Klein in the series opener.

Despite the protests of NSW, the same whistleblower will control proceedings in Perth for game two. 

Since Fittler took over at the start of 2018, the Blues now have a 7-6 record after the 16-10 loss in Origin I.

In games when the Blues’ average play-the-ball speed has been 3.4 like game one or quicker, they have a 1-3 record.

Blues coach Brad Fittler. (Photo by Mark Metcalfe/Getty Images)

When their play-the-ball speed has been slower than that benchmark, they are 6-3.

When you isolate the six matches in which both teams were above 3.4 seconds per play-the-ball, NSW dominated with a 4-2 success rate.

In the four games which have had a quick ruck with both teams under 3.4, the Maroons were victorious three times.

So if Fittler gets his way and Klein ensures it’s a quicker game at Optus Stadium, the Blues’ chances of victory will actually decrease. Queensland want to play touch footy, the Blues should be after a drag-em-out grinding contest.

Last year when the Blues smashed the Maroons 50-6 to start the series before sealing the trophy in game two, their play-the-ball speed was a pedestrian 3.69 and 3.98 respectively while Queensland were much quicker at 3.33 and 3.34.

Queensland have had quicker average play-the-ball speeds in eight of the 13 matches during Fittler’s tenure, but only won four of those occasions.

Play-the-ball speeds in Freddy era

Game Qld PTB NSW PTB Result
2022 Origin I 3.22 3.4 Qld 16-10
2021 Origin III 3.68 3.72 Qld 20-18
2021 Origin II 3.34 3.72 NSW 26-0
2021 Origin I 3.33 3.69 NSW 50-6
2020 Origin III 3.09 3.4 Qld 20-14
2020 Origin II 3.39 3.23 NSW 34-10
2020 Origin I 3.28 3.15 Qld 18-14
2019 Origin III 3.49 3.89 NSW 26-20
2019 Origin II 3.75 3.8 NSW 38-6
2019 Origin I 3.39 3.55 Qld 18-14
2018 Origin III 3.82 3.56 Qld 18-12
2018 Origin II 3.73 3.56 NSW 18-14
2018 Origin I 3.51 3.42 NSW 22-12

“Playing off slow rucks is a pretty hard thing to do,” Fittler said in the post-match media conference at Accor Stadium.

He has since met with NRL referees’ boss Jared Maxwell to air his concerns and to his credit, despite not getting the assurances he was after, Fittler has repeatedly said it’s now up to the Blues to adapt to the ruck speed better for their must-win encounter.

It should also be noted that Maroons coach Billy Slater spent 16 seasons at Melbourne where Craig Bellamy made slowing down the ruck through various means an artform or blight on the game, depending on your perspective.

(Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

The other area where Fittler has complained post Origin I was the Maroons rushing up to pressure halfback Nathan Cleary with his kicks.

NSW made Cleary an easy target for the Maroons by not sharing the load. He put boot to ball 20 times with Jarome Luai doing so just twice, compared to Queensland spreading it between Daly Cherry-Evans (13) mainly on the left edge and Cameron Munster on the left (nine).

Again, the Blues have copped the referee’s interpretations begrudgingly on the chin when it comes to this facet of the game with Fittler and Cleary each saying they need to improve rather than whinge about Queensland’s tactics.

Not that he would expect any sympathy from Munster but the Queensland five-eighth made it clear on Wednesday that the Maroons would not be deviating from their successful formula.

(Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

“I’m not too sure of what’s going on with everything that’s in the media at the moment with kicking and everything but it’s a thing in the game where everyone’s trying to put a lot of pressure on the kicker,” Munster said.

“You’ve got to, these days, because a lot of the players have been practising and working so hard on their kicking game – it can really change a game.

“He’s an integral part of their kicking and that’s in the NRL as well. I’m sure he’s probably had his fair share of getting knocked to the ground so I’m sure not many people will change the way they play against him.

“It obviously just depends on what the referee’s feeling at the time.”

The Blues lost game one because they botched a few key moments.

If Cameron Murray had weaved his way through the Queensland defensive line as a decoy runner instead of stopping just before half-time, Junior Paulo’s try under the posts would not have been disallowed and they would have carried a 10-6 advantage into the break instead of a 6-4 deficit.

If Paulo had been more aggressive in breaking free of what was a relatively minor hold of his jersey from Lindsay Collins at the scrum for Daly Cherry-Evans’ try, then that would not have been a turning point.

Let’s not forget the Maroons were up that end of the field because Munster had beaten five half-hearted tackles in the centre of the NSW defensive line to storm into enemy territory.

The Blues had their chances, probably more all up than Queensland over the course of the 80 minutes, but the Maroons seized the moments better.

The referee’s interpretations were not the reason why the Blues lost game one and if they go into Origin II with that mentality weighing on their minds, the Maroons could be getting their hands on the shield again before the series finale next month in Brisbane.

The Crowd Says:

2022-06-23T09:21:12+00:00

DP Schaefer

Roar Rookie


:laughing: :laughing:

2022-06-23T09:01:35+00:00

The Sporacle

Roar Rookie


If anyone honestly thinks that in any given year of that period of QLD dominance NSW had a better team they are seriously off their chops, much the same that anyone who thinks NSW has the far superior team at this time is also off their chops. That type of thinking serves nothing else aside from fuelling these types of debates :laughing:

2022-06-23T08:21:02+00:00

Gray-Hand

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People look back at the 8-0 11/12 period and remember it as being an era of greater imbalance than it was. NSW were favourites to win plenty of those games.

2022-06-23T05:49:21+00:00

Cam

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I know it is probably hitting below the belt, but I can't help but recall this story from the SMH after Game 2 last year: "Brad Fittler believes the Blues are on the cusp of a new golden era of State of Origin dominance after keeping Queensland scoreless on home turf to wrap up the series. NSW produced another dominant performance, a 26-0 drubbing of the Maroons at Suncorp Stadium, to return the shield to the southern state. The result comes after the record 50-6 pummelling they dished out in the opening game, raising the prospect of a rare series clean sweep". I don't want to rub Brad's face in it, but they haven't won a game since. That incredible run Qld went on, which I think was 8 in a row, I just reckon that was such an anomaly. Although I believe NSW to have the better and deeper squad of both states, I'd be very surprised if we ever see a team dominate the other in such a way again.

2022-06-23T05:12:05+00:00

Bernie

Guest


seen the remake with Bill Nighy?

2022-06-23T05:03:42+00:00

Bernie

Guest


is that because he's one of the "Beautiful People"?

2022-06-23T04:33:07+00:00

Adam

Roar Guru


They probably tried to do subtitles and the software couldn't work and the work experience kid had no idea what he was saying either

2022-06-23T04:19:08+00:00

Pedro the Maroon

Roar Rookie


*Mainwaring" pron "Mannering"

2022-06-23T03:59:13+00:00

The Sporacle

Roar Rookie


But you can make that same argument if you frame 12, 13, 14 and 15 with Mal and he had a vastly superior side, don't get me wrong I have a few questions on his decisions but I just don't buy the fact that we've had a far better team over the 5 years. We have lost one game and won 3 of the last 4 series and we are starting to eat our own. My point is that these sides are a lot closer than the media make out.

2022-06-23T02:40:47+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Difference is James Reyne worked with subtitles, SBW would still be talking bollocks with subtitles… :laughing:

2022-06-23T02:39:21+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Generational team may or may not be a stretch,but they’ve had a far better team over the past five year’s than Fittler’s 7-6 record suggests Maybe we’ll owe him an apology if he pulls this series out of the fire (of his own making). Hell be 9-6 with four series wins out of five which will be pretty impressive As things stand atm he’s looking decidedly shaky

2022-06-23T02:27:44+00:00

The Sporacle

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Remove Turbo and Trelle and can you honestly say this NSW team is a "Generational team" to be fair with those two in a side they probably are a better side on paper. This is the most even the sides have been in a long time and anyone that expects anything more than a 50 50 win loss is having their judgement seriously influenced by the great Queensland run. No matter how much the underdog card was played, at no stage could we match more than 2 of the 4 key match ups during that period. It could be argued now that 3 out of those 4 matchups are a toss of a coin in any given game. I get a feeling that we have forgotten what origin is actually about results wise :thumbup:

2022-06-23T02:25:09+00:00

Snoopy

Guest


Isn't Fittler the captain who lost the unlosable series 3 - 0 against Vautin's nobodies and the as coach the unlosable series in 2020. Sounds like a bit of a clueless fraud to me.

2022-06-23T02:19:38+00:00

JOHN ALLAN

Guest


Sonny Bill is as easy to understand as James Reyne. Should have subtitles on the screen when he is delivering his valuable input

2022-06-23T02:16:37+00:00

JOHN ALLAN

Guest


Some of the great Qld &NSW teams could “coach themselves”. Even “Blind Freddy” could do the job. Oh that’s right, he already does!

2022-06-23T02:03:07+00:00

Cam

Roar Rookie


That job might be very well be determined by NSW’s next two performances in Origin. As a Qlder, I’m locking in a clean sweep :laughing: and if that is the case, Fittler’s stock will plummet. The Dogs look like they have turned a corner, maybe they already have their head coach in Mick Potter?

2022-06-23T01:42:32+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


Would love to see that

2022-06-23T01:38:31+00:00

Adam

Roar Guru


I'm early 30s and I understood the headline immediately. What's wrong with me...

2022-06-23T01:37:18+00:00

Adam

Roar Guru


So you reckon the NSWRL should pay the Sea Eagles millions of dollars to not play Tom? I feel like that's the most logical solution

2022-06-23T01:35:43+00:00

Adam

Roar Guru


Play the ball speeds are as close to as a made up stat as one can imagine

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