NRL Round 19 talking points: Just another quiet weekend, yeah?

By AJ Mithen / Expert

Round 19 was a pretty enjoyable slate of rugby league, but the weekend ended with the NRL world in uproar about a controversial finish decided by officials. Here come your talking points.

Would a Wests Tigers appeal overturn a result?

I’m not going to re-litigate the entire sad scenario of the Cowboys’ post-siren victory here because this is NRL talking points, not NRL full-blown investigations.

But surely the wronged Wests Tigers have already fired a protest or appeal into NRL headquarters regarding that fateful final play against North Queensland.

There’s fertile grounds to do so, with a complete sh*tshow of timekeeping errors, highly questionable allowing of a captain’s challenge, a short whistle and the decision from Ashley Klein in the bunker as well. You can’t protest the decision, but the process to get there.

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For their part the NRL have said the challenge was permissible, with a spokesperson telling the Sydney Morning Herald: “The captain can challenge decisions by the referee to stop the play.

“Although the referee had blown his whistle to stop the game after the last tackle was completed as time had expired, he had not yet called full-time.

“The whole concept of the captain’s challenge is to make sure any decision by the referee that stops the game can be reviewed.

“To not do so would effectively deny a team the right to have an officiating error corrected on the last play of a game just because time had expired.”

What’s your call, folks? Does the NRL’s explanation make sense? Was it actually a penalty but we’re all up in arms because the plucky Wests Tigers were on the wrong end of it?

How will Graham Annesley spin this? Will Ashley Klein have a week or two off?

Cronulla are pretty good

A lot of the talk around Cronulla’s rise to the top four has centred around a soft draw, but their effort running Penrith to the line showed they can lift a few levels when it’s needed.

They’ve got a few weeks without Dale Finucane after he was charged for a wild tackle which caused a head clash and took off part of Penrith centre Stephen Crichton’s ear, but other than that, their roster is in decent shape.

Coach Craig Fitzgibbon post game was aware of the intensity his team faced after they led out 10-0, with the Panthers working their way back to a 14-10 lead, then lifting their rating noticeably again during the last 15 minutes to control the ball and ultimately get the backbreaking score to Jarome Luai.

“All the stuff you’ve got to get out of a footy team to become good at the end of the year, we’ll take a lot of positives out of that but we have to also understand we need to be better and we’ll work on that and get our execution a bit better,” Fitzgibbon said.

“The guys are disappointed because we feel like we’ve got more to offer than that. There’s a lot of confidence you take out of it and confidence to get in an arm wrestle which is semi-like footy.

“So a good lesson for us in getting comfortable feeling uncomfortable for a long time there, that was pleasing for the guys to go through.”

Penrith are the masters at making their opponents uncomfortable and the Sharks held their own. They’ll now take on the rejuvenated South Sydney and will get to apply all these lessons again.

It was actually a good round of games

Obviously overshadowed by the Tigers and Cowboys debacle, but this was an enjoyable round of games. Key wins for Brisbane, the Roosters, Dragons and South Sydney sent Parramatta, Manly and Melbourne into deep introspection.

While every game bar the last was decided by a double-figure margin, the story of each game was fascinating.

Canterbury flew out of the blocks but gave the Gold Coast a sniff of a win. Canberra trailed 0-14 at halftime before overrunning New Zealand to keep their season alive. South Sydney’s win over Melbourne has them in discussions for the double chance.

Manly were somewhat unlucky to lose Jake Trbojevic, Lachlan Croker and Andrew Davey through COVID-19, but the Dragons took full advantage with their season almost on the line.

Parramatta were bludgeoned at home by the Broncos and looked bereft of solutions, while their conquerors look like they believe they are capable of anything.

Kalyn Ponga’s career might be in real trouble

Ponga failed an HIA for the third time this season after Roosters prop Matt Lodge clocked him on the jaw with a forearm five minutes into their Friday night game.

(Photo by Ashley Feder/Getty Images)

It was the fifth time the star Knights fullback has left the field for a head knock and reports have him being shut down for the remainder of the season.

For as long as it feels Ponga’s been around, he’s only 24 years old, ironically the same age as cricketer Will Pucovski who has had his own battles with concussion.

The only move for 2022 is to give him the rest of the year off and work with the specialists to see what the next steps are. The Knights are done and it would be madness to put their best asset at risk for no reason.

Yes, it’s still really dark at Accor Stadium

Until we find out what the go is I’ll bring this up – the middle of the ground is fine, everywhere else is very dimly lit. Maybe the shape of the stadium is the issue?

Quick hits

– Again, how about them Bulldogs? A ripper of a win against the Gold Coast. Josh Addo-Carr set free to score tries. The ball is in constant motion. Great young players coming through to complement the ‘star’ signings.

– For the second week in a row, Melbourne’s Nelson Asofa-Solomona was charged with a grade 1 dangerous tackle… and fined. He was also fined for a charge of grade 1 dangerous contact. So two charges from the one game on the same opponent (Cam Murray), with no suspension.

– Manly will wear a pride jersey this coming Thursday, long overdue in the NRL and surely the first of many more.

– Congratulations Tigers prop James Tamou for 300 games, a mighty effort and in the front row too.

– Shame on those cowardly Parramatta fans who booed Jakob Arthur, a 19-year-old who has become a scapegoat for the Eels’ mixed performances.

– With injuries tearing their backline apart the Storm are reportedly sniffing around for loan replacements from clubs out of contention, with Reece Walsh and Josh Addo-Carr inquired about. Why not? If you don’t ask, you don’t get… Which players from lower ranked teams will get a shot at a title?

To the next

Round 20 is another interesting set of games that’ll influence the final standings.

On Thursday, Manly play the Roosters, the winner of which will have a great claim on the eight. On Friday, Melbourne travel to New Zealand desperate for a win and Parramatta host Penrith desperate to stay in the upper parts of the eight.

Saturday has three great matchups – Canberra head to the Gold Coast with zero margin for error if they want finals, Cronulla and the Bunnies play off in a top-four-shaping clash and Brisbane host an angry Wests Tigers.

The round finishes with the beleaguered Newcastle welcoming the flying Canterbury, then St George Illawarra play the Cowboys in a game that’s must-win for both.

What did you take from this round of games, Roarers?

The Crowd Says:

2022-07-26T11:25:29+00:00

Coat hanger

Guest


As you noted with NAS, fines only, so too with Lodge, how did he stay on the field after decking Ponga? With Knights dominating the start of the game, was it just a coincidence that Ponga was taken out & along with the Knights threat. Who else are these thugs going to be allowed to endanger. Get them off before there’s no one else left on the field.

2022-07-26T09:36:12+00:00

JennyFromPenny

Guest


Yes was funny and cruel. Aiming at the right post and hitting the left.

2022-07-26T09:31:43+00:00

JennyFromPenny

Guest


Holmes didn't drop the ball of his own accord. Moylan didn't land short of the line of his own accord. Panthers were held up by Cowboys a few times too, but that's the key. They were constantly applying the blowtorch. Cowboys held a match stick in comparison.

2022-07-26T03:51:30+00:00

Tim Buck 3

Roar Rookie


The Tiger was looking up at the ball when Feldt tackles him from behind. The video clearly shows this and this is why the referee's boss said Feldt should've been penalised, not the Tiger. The same wandering happens whenever a bomb goes up. I've said many times bombs are an obstruction nightmare with some players going in with the aim to obstruct while keeping their eyes skyward. We copied American football taking the four tackle rule but we should have kept the field goal as the only scoring option on the last tackle.

2022-07-25T22:32:59+00:00

Statler and Waldorf

Roar Guru


Would've been a great time for the NRL to start a crackdown on them though :laughing:

2022-07-25T21:36:25+00:00

Forty Twenty

Roar Rookie


The Tiger also looked up and initially ran right angles to get to Feldt. As I said , not enough for a penalty but why would you take the risk?

2022-07-25T19:04:38+00:00

Tim Buck 3

Roar Rookie


Feldt ran at the Tiger and took him out to get a penalty. He succeeded.

2022-07-25T18:59:54+00:00

Tim Buck 3

Roar Rookie


There hasn't been a voluntary tackle penalty for years. Fullbacks do it all the time so they don't get pushed back over their line by three pigs.

2022-07-25T12:25:29+00:00

matth

Roar Guru


I just said it was funny.

2022-07-25T11:12:29+00:00

Muzz

Guest


Ponga should take a pay cut and play in the centres.

2022-07-25T11:06:32+00:00

Rob

Guest


Holmes lost the ball putting it over the line also. Moylan just never even got it down over the line. Did Taumalolo and Feldt play against the Panthers? They make a bit difference in attack. Feldt is 8 tries from 10 games against the Panthers.

2022-07-25T11:03:48+00:00

Noel

Roar Rookie


Genuine question... Lots of talk about challenging the result, demanding the points etc etc... I get the NRL may decide it has the power to do that (I don't necessarily agree, and doubt they would), but people are talking about a court challenge? Is there any precedent for that? Who are they suing? Is the ref personally liable? I just can't work out what that would look like. Does anyone know?

2022-07-25T10:48:56+00:00

Rob

Guest


Tigers missed 4 conversions. I believe that was a Sharks complaint about missing the 8 last year. Couldn’t turn 4 into 6 enough. Cowboys had 3 tries denied but still scored 4. Last time I looked the Cowboys are a better defensive and attacking side than the Sharks this year.

2022-07-25T10:31:47+00:00

Rob

Guest


I hope he’s able to come back fit and well. Not much point risking future injury or head trauma this year. It’s a hard game and I personally hate the he’s soft comments.

2022-07-25T10:10:48+00:00

souvalis

Roar Rookie


All tries are bunker reviewed automatically.

2022-07-25T09:58:50+00:00

JennyFromPenny

Guest


Was there any reason why Robson should not have been awarded a penalty for tackled without the ball ?

2022-07-25T08:49:34+00:00

JennyFromPenny

Guest


Klein didn't seem to discriminate between colours of Cowboy jerseys. Would suggest to avoid Black though, probably Cowboys last choice colour anyway, tropics an all.

2022-07-25T08:20:29+00:00

JennyFromPenny

Guest


Cowboys left Penrith happy with their defence going down 22-0, yet also only had a handful of tackles in Panthers 20. Sharks done 20-10, (although 20-4 with anyone other than Klein in charge). Do you think half a dozen tackles in the opposition 20 is proof of a contender? I don't. Defence might win matches, but not if you can't score any.

2022-07-25T08:18:39+00:00

Rob

Guest


Well the hysteria would have people believe it’s the first time anyone has felt the official influenced a result. God Lord legal action, points reversed when a team hit the lead with a minute on the clock. What about suggesting it was silly for the Tigers player to run that line and contact Feldt? Why not suggest Holmes perfection with the boot sinks poor old Tigers. They missed 4 conversions.

2022-07-25T07:53:30+00:00

Rob

Guest


I’m pretty sure admitted several refereeing errors contributed to Manly beating the Cowboys a couple of seasons back. He publicly stayed error 3 weeks in a row had gone against the Cowboys which influenced the results. Never seen points changed thou.

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