Love or loathe him, Hooper’s legacy will be forged in France

By Lachie Mark / Roar Rookie

Has a Wallaby ever divided public opinion like Michael Hooper?

At just 30, ‘Hoops’ is a four-time John Eales medallist with 121 Test caps and 159 Super Rugby caps.

He is short odds to overtake George Gregan’s record 139 appearances and become Australia’s most-capped Test player.

And there is a genuine chance of him joining Wyatt Crockett (and potentially Aaron Smith) in the double ton club at Super level if his body holds up.

Throw in a 2014 Super Rugby crown, 2015’s Rugby Championship title, two men’s World Player of the Year nominations, and his captaining the country at just 22 years of age, and you’ve got an impressive rugby resume.

Yet many rugby pundits (particularly success-starved Wallaby fans) will argue Hooper’s career is anything but

There’s the glaring absence of silverware – specifically the Webb Ellis Trophy and Bledisloe Cup – and overseas wins against Tier 1 sides.

Hooper has never tasted Test victory in New Zealand (13 losses, one draw), or South Africa (six losses, one draw).

Overall, he has meagre win percentages against the All Blacks (19.64 per cent) and England (20 per cent), along with losing records to Ireland (2-4) and Scotland (3-4), and a middling return against the Springboks (7-7-2).

Then there’s the captaincy.

(Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

Made the regular skipper following Steven Moore’s retirement, Hooper has been regularly questioned as both on-field decision maker and referee manager since day dot.

Does he take enough shots at goal? Does he have the temperament to lead? Can he manage the pace of the game?

Take your pick – they’ve all been the subjects of Roar articles and countless others since his first taste of captaincy in 2014.

Even his place in the Wallaby XV continues to spark debate as rival openside flankers (David Pocock, Liam Gill, Fraser McReight to name a few) come and go.

Yet here he stands – a Test Centurion, re-endorsed as skipper by Dave Rennie after the Michael Cheika years, and destined be the first Australian to lead his side into two Rugby World Cup campaigns.

There is little doubt Hooper is one of Australia’s most devoted rugby servants.

He’s played and captained through some of the Wallabies’ toughest seasons in the professional era with incredible durability.

But there is no substitute for success and sadly Hooper has tasted little across his decade-long career (so far).

So how will Michael Hooper stand in the halls of history? What will his legacy be?

Achieving what the likes of Gregan, Stirling Mortlock, Rocky Elsom, Will Genia, James Horwill, Ben Mowen and Stephen Moore could not by breaking the Bledisloe Cup drought as captain would etch Hooper’s name into the record books.

But with presumably just two shortened series before “Bill” goes up for grabs, it’s difficult to see the Wallabies winning three of the next four All Black meetings required to reclaim (and potentially retain) the Bledisloe.

And while winning one or even two of those encounters would be cause for celebration, it still wouldn’t be enough to bank Trans-Tasman silverware over the next two years.

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No, Hooper’s legacy lies in Paris – and that’s where the underdog Wallabies have a sniff.

If they escape familiar Pool C foes Wales, Fiji and Georgia unscathed, they should emerge victorious from a likely quarter-final date with Argentina or Japan to take their place in a semi-final against one of South Africa, Ireland, France or New Zealand.

Failure to top their group will see Old Blighty loom large for another quarter final but July’s lost series was the result of Australian errors, not English excellence.

Anything can happen in the knockout stages and a full-strength side with Quade Cooper, Samu Kerevi, Marika Koroibete and Taniela Tupou wreaking havoc would make any of the top-five nations uncomfortable.

History shows the Wallabies are semi-final bound.

Australia has never bombed out of consecutive RWC quarter-finals.

When Rob Andrew’s drop goal ended the Wallabies’ title defence in 1995, glory ensued in 1999.

When Johnny Wilkinson broke Aussie hearts (again) in 2007, a brave 2011 campaign saw the Wallabies shake off poor selections and a pool loss to knock out South Africa in the QF and eventually claim bronze.

So, rightly or wrongly, anything less than a medal in Paris will be considered a failure.

And Michael Hooper’s legacy as both captain and player hangs on that podium finish.

(Photo by Paul Devlin/SNS Group via Getty Images)

Not topping Pool C, losing another QF, or finishing fourth would almost certainly end his captaincy.

Winning five games on the trot, going down fighting in semi-final loss to any of South Africa, Ireland, France or New Zealand, and bouncing back to take bronze would be a brave effort.

But defeat in the semi-final (or final) would deepen doubts about Hooper’s ability to win big games ahead of the 2025 Lions Tour.

And yes, leading Australia to a World Cup final a year after slipping to seventh on the world rankings would be a remarkable achievement and could even preserve his place, along with coach Dave Rennie’s.

Yet the absence of major silverware would remain – and so would the questions.

Only the image of Michael Hooper lifting the William Webb Ellis Trophy on 28 October 2023 will dispel his doubters and etch his name into rugby folklore.

In a way, it’s cruel.

Cruel that such a long-serving contributor to Australian rugby could have their legacy boiled down to a single daunting task.

And cruel that doing the impossible and skippering Australia to its third World Cup win would come at the expense of countless other and equally compelling storylines and stars of the game.

Antoine Dupont breaking France’s World Cup hoodoo on home soil.

Johnny Sexton steering Ireland to glory in his fourth and final RWC campaign.

Owen Farrell kicking England to sweet redemption after 2019’s heartbreak.

Or SH heavyweights South Africa and New Zealand roaring back to life for a historic fourth World Cup.

But for a man destined to become Australia’s longest serving player and captain, bringing back “Bill” would elevate Michael Hooper to rugby folklore.

It would wipe away a decade of underachievement and heartache.

It would totally reinvigorate interest and investment in Australian rugby ahead of the 2025 Lions Tour and 2027/2029 RWCs on home soil.

Love him or loathe him, Hooper’s legacy will be forged in France.

Will he be remembered as Australia’s greatest journeyman? A hard-working, durable, servant of Wallaby rugby who gave his all but never achieved true on-field success?

Or will he become our 21st century Superman who, after a decade of adversity, broke the drought and returned Australian rugby to its former glory?

We’ll find out next October.

The Crowd Says:

2022-08-13T09:10:48+00:00

Double Agent

Guest


Think you mean Roche.

2022-08-06T06:05:30+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


FB I think both sides will need to improve considerably if they want to win a WC next year.

2022-08-04T21:46:58+00:00

Sinclair Whitbourne

Roar Rookie


Agree but hardly compares with the critical decision not to send Toutai Kefu off for treating the irritating Irish 6 head as a punching bag (from memory whilst said nuisance was being held by another famous Wallaby), or the outstandingly bad ref call v Scotland in 2015. By comparison I thought in 2011 they got the rub v SA (the issue I recall was over the legality of Pocock's work) but really didn't get it v Ireland. One thing that is noticeable in knock out tournaments is how some teams seem to lead a charmed life with the officials in any given tournament. Without it you need to be a really, really good side.

2022-08-04T20:37:44+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

2022-08-04T20:10:48+00:00

Riccardo

Roar Rookie


Take it easy Fun. All teams have their villains. Get the White is an annoying mouthy gnat but did he deserve the facial and neck massage he got from Genge? In any case my original post was tongue -in-cheek; it was more about Hooper's value to the Wallabies...

2022-08-04T15:01:26+00:00

Guess

Roar Rookie


Was hill injured by swain? Internet is full of thuggery from your team that goes unpunished feel free to explore by yourself.

2022-08-04T14:31:51+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: Says a fan of a team with demonstrably worse discipline problems than England. A team so incapable of stopping their ‘thug’ players accumulating red cards they’re trying to change the rules to only a 20 minute punishment. Feel free to name the last piece of English ‘thuggery’ to cause an opposition player serious injury – take your time.

2022-08-04T13:32:47+00:00

Guess

Roar Rookie


Guess it's not certain then :stoked:

2022-08-04T13:29:50+00:00

Guess

Roar Rookie


Says fan of a team of thugs :laughing:

2022-08-04T12:18:09+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


A recent guest on our podcast said something (and he is a top coach) that made sense: it’s no longer a captain standing alone/above. It’s a senior leadership group. There’s a backline leader. A pack leader. A defensive captain. A 2H version of each at times. That made me think I was perhaps too singular about Hooper. Who is in his leadership group? QC? Slipper? White?

2022-08-04T10:08:05+00:00

cs

Roar Guru


Has a Wallaby ever divided public opinion like Michael Hooper? Oodles have divided public opinion moreso. On the other hand, I don’t personally know anyone who doesn’t think Hoops is an outstanding player. Wayne Smith ran a campaign against him when he wrote for the Oz, but later apologised and recanted when he joined the SMH. As far as I can tell, the only division over Hoops exists right here, at The Roar, a weird island of opinion. Whenever I tell anyone about this strange debate, they laugh or shake their head. The whole Roar Hoops thing is bizarre.

2022-08-04T09:44:54+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


I thought the 'point' was that Hooper's world record of international yellow card accumulation was down to poor reffing? I was interrogating the illogicality of an argument that rests on the belief that this 'poor reffing' only works one way and that's against Hooper, whilst it must, by definition, work in favour of every other player on the planet. Please feel free, though, to point out where I'm wrong.

2022-08-04T09:26:03+00:00

ozziedude

Roar Rookie


I think youve missed the point.. to put it kindly...

2022-08-04T09:16:42+00:00

Jimbo81

Roar Rookie


Not with a 38% coach and a 38% captain with Phipps’ poor cousin at 9

2022-08-04T09:11:26+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


It wasn't a bad run with the refs in 2011. I still remember that Boks/Oz QF and I was a neutral.

2022-08-04T09:07:51+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


'Failure to top their group will see Old Blighty loom large for another quarter final but July’s lost series was the result of Australian errors, not English excellence.' There seems to be a feeling that Oz are going to improve exponentially between now and a possible QF against England, whilst England are going to stay at pretty much the same standard as the recent series. Not sure that's a wise assumption.

2022-08-04T08:55:26+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


Yes, he seems to be generally appreciated more abroad than in Oz. He's a very fine player. On the other side of the coin, probably because of the polarised opinions, fanboys in Oz can go a little over the top about how good he is. There doesn't seem to be much sober analysis of his abilities. A bit like Owen Farrell. :shocked:

2022-08-04T08:50:50+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


As a fan of a team that might play the WBs in a QF in 2023, let's hope Hooper, and the rest of the WBs, believe that as well.

2022-08-04T08:49:02+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


So you don’t believe Hooper has also escaped yellow cards he should have been given? How can I put this kindly, I think it’s statistically ‘unlikely.’ Over a career, players end up, generally, with the amount of cards they deserve.

2022-08-04T08:41:45+00:00

Tooly

Roar Rookie


No it was another Billy Pulver blooper ! Billy thought peroxide blond , surf and skateboards equated to turnstiles turning . David Pocock , Quadie , George Smith , Mortlock , Waugh , Eales , Burke , Croft , Gregan and Owen Farrell are or were leaders Captain or not . When they speak people listen .

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