Politicians, NRL, get off your soapbox and take notice: We don't really care where Grand Final is held

By Ryan O'Connell / Expert

There’s been an extreme amount of press, posturing and politics of late, centred around the location for the 2022 NRL Grand Final. Traditionally played in Sydney, there is speculation rugby league’s season decider could instead be transferred to Brisbane.

ARL chairman Peter V’landys threatened to move the showpiece event to Queensland in response to the NSW government reversing a decision to upgrade three Sydney suburban stadiums.

Finally, on Thursday afternoon it was announced it would stay at Accor Stadium after all.

Say what you will about V’landys, but he doesn’t mind a scrap, and will use any leverage he can when engaged in a battle. Be it guilt trips, personal relationships, money, fan “feedback”, political sway, or brute force, just to name a few of the weapons in his arsenal.

You get the feeling if you were unlucky enough to get into a physical altercation with V’landys, you’d be wise to protect your crotch, cover your eyes from potential sand throwing, and consider bringing a gun to a supposed knife fight. Yes, if we found out V’landys personal mantra was ‘Whatever it takes’, I’m certain we’d be shocked very little.

As such, it’s hardly surprising he was threatening to move the NRL Grand Final out of Sydney, as it’s not mere pettiness, but also part of a wider agenda and ambition. It’s straight out of the V’landys playbook, and you can understand why he’s passionate about it.

Australian Rugby League Commission chairman Peter Vlandys. (Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

But why does anyone else care?

I’ll admit, when I first learnt Sydney could have lost the Grand Final, I got my proverbial knickers in a knot. My general response was: “What? That’s crazy! It has to be played in Sydney!” Yet when I pondered the follow up question of “Why?”, I drew many a blank.

Unless 11 teams are busted for major salary cap breaches, I don’t think my beloved Bulldogs will be playing on the first Sunday of October, so I probably won’t be attending. I’ll watch the game on TV, where it makes little to no difference where the game is played.

However, as hard as it is for me to believe, what I think doesn’t really matter, and there are others that may indeed care.

For instance, it’s easy to appreciate why the NSW government would be invested and nervous about the NRL’s crown jewel moving north. Said government is under immense pressure politically, reeling from one PR disaster to the next. With a state election on the horizon, getting Sydney rugby league fans offside – no pun intended – could be the final nail in the coffin for Premier Dominic Perrottet and the NSW Liberal Party, and V’landys wisely knows that.

The Queensland government cares too.

The COVID-19 lockdowns and resulting state government bickering and posturing highlighted that parochialism is alive and well in Australian politics.

So playing off the two state governments against each other is a savvy move. You can’t blame Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk for wanting the NRL Grand Final. Apart from the economic benefits, it’s cheap political point-scoring. Which, to be fair, has proven mightily effective in the Sunshine State.

Yet it’s not just the Queensland government that would care. In scenes eerily reminiscent of many a NSW Blues State of Origin nightmare, Maroons fans must be licking their chops at the thought of stealing another game off NSW. The whole state would thoroughly enjoy yet another victory over their hated rivals from the south.

Which neatly brings us down to NSW. Sydney’s tourism and hospitality industries would certainly care about losing the Grand Final, and rightfully so. We’re talking about people’s livelihoods here, and among the fun banter, we should remember to be sympathetic to them.

No doubt the Sydney-based NRL teams that are hopeful of making the ‘Big Dance’ (yes, I included that term just to trigger those that hate it!) would prefer the game stayed at Homebush. Yet, in the NATIONAL Rugby League, why should Sydney teams always receive the benefit of playing in their home city?

Penrith and Souths may have preferred to play the Grand Final in Sydney last year, but the sky didn’t fall when it was held at Suncorp, and I’m sure teams care more about making the finals, rather than where it’s played.

So then, with all those above groups covered, we come to the loudest and angriest demographic. The ones most vehemently against the NRL Grand Final leaving NSW: Sydney rugby league fans.

Why exactly does the average Sydney fan care? Apart from parochial bias and pointless tradition, it shouldn’t really matter where the game is played.

(Photo by Bradley Kanaris/Getty Images)

If you were planning on attending the game, it would no doubt be frustrating having it relocated. Yet, we’re talking about an absolute maximum of 82,000 Sydney rugby league fans being affected.

I say ‘absolute maximum’ with a mocking grin on my face, because many of the tickets for a Grand Final are for the corporate crowd, rather than true fans. Throw in those that travel from outside of the city anyway, and the number of actual Sydney rugby league fans that would have been at the game dwindles way down from the already relatively small number of 82K.

Some will argue Accor Stadium holds more people than Suncorp Stadium, and that would be factually correct. However, Suncorp is the far superior football stadium. Fact meets fact.

Is there any other reason to care? Anyone? Bueller?

There are many people that have a legitimate reason to care about V’landys threatening to move the NRL Grand Final to Brisbane, but when it comes to the most vocal opponents, I’m struggling to see a valid motive to really care.

A minute after the game starts, you’ll be watching on TV, and I doubt you’ll even notice the difference.

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The Crowd Says:

2022-08-22T07:27:38+00:00

Tim Carter

Roar Pro


I'm not from Sydney, so I know exactly where you're coming from. Essentially I'm countering the argument that the NRL is the juggernaut that it because of Sydney alone. I'm nonplussed about the prospect of the grand final being at Homebush every year, but I can't accept that Sydney primacy or tradition would be sufficient justification for that to happen.

2022-08-22T04:58:48+00:00

Mr Right

Roar Rookie


Tim, I am fine with the GF being played in Brisbane if it is planned ahead & run professionally. But I have always found it ridiculous with that Qld attitude that “Sydney clubs robbed/bought the best players from north of the Tweed”. How many players have travelled to cities from regional areas to receive the opportunity to play in better competitions for bigger salaries? It is a not a Qld League issue. It happens in every major sporting code around the world. E.g., soccer players leave Edinburgh to play in the EPL. Pokies were introduced in Qld in 1992 & the city of Brisbane with a population of >$2M people still has only one NRL club based there. I think you will find that the real reason those players left was due to the fact that the BRL couldn’t get its act together.

2022-08-22T04:19:24+00:00

Tim Carter

Roar Pro


The NSW competition may have stronger (before my time, so I can't take a position either way), but how much did the poker machine money influence that. One league had the financial clout to strengthen their competition by bringing in players from the other competition, this weakening the Queensland comps.

2022-08-22T02:21:01+00:00

Mr Right

Roar Rookie


Actually, NSW produced clubs that the better Qld players wanted to come & play for. Why, to prove themselves in a stronger competition & get paid professional wages to do what they love. The third biggest city in Australia has only been able to support one professional NRL team. Major embarrassment for the city I would imagine.

2022-08-21T23:39:28+00:00

Kent Dorfman

Roar Rookie


"We don't really care where Grand Final is held" - exactamundo. wherever it will be played the stadium'll be chokkas. The AFL proved it can host the GF outside of (P)rictoria, the NRL had it north of the Tweed without any problems. The NFL plays their Borebowl all over the country where the destination is known 12 months or more in advance, the RWC was played in Japan when initially there were concerns of it being played for the first time in Asia - didn't see too many empty seats in the stadiums.

2022-08-21T21:23:26+00:00

Maxtruck

Roar Rookie


My biggest gripe is not where its played, but when its played. 4.00pm kick off on a Sunday arvo should be locked in no matter what state or stadium But, "to be fair" I think a 5 year cycle of 3 games in Sydney, 1 in Brisbane and 1 in Townsville is an option. Its 900km Sydney to Brisbane and 1300km Brisbane to Townsville, bring the game to the fans

2022-08-20T05:54:55+00:00

Adam Bagnall

Roar Guru


So does it improve the event taking it on the road every year? If Optus Stadium wins the bid for 2023 and two Sydney teams play in the decider is that good for the game? Aside from the fact you have 20,000 less fans at the game. I just don't see the benefits of selling out the GF. The game thrives on tradition, rivalries, etc. Taking it to a new stadium every year doesn't create any tradition. The game becomes sterile

AUTHOR

2022-08-20T05:10:37+00:00

Ryan O'Connell

Expert


As ever, the Betoota nailed it: https://www.instagram.com/p/ChYzyNgraBZ/?igshid=ZDg1NjBiNjg=

AUTHOR

2022-08-20T05:09:41+00:00

Ryan O'Connell

Expert


It’s inertia, not a tradition.

2022-08-20T03:07:28+00:00

Adam Bagnall

Roar Guru


How isn't it? If a GF is always played in Sydney, how is that not tradition? The AFL GF is always played in Melbourne and is, traditionally, one of the biggest sporting events of the year. Something isn't getting through

2022-08-20T03:05:51+00:00

Adam Bagnall

Roar Guru


North Sydney won back to back premierships in 1921 and 1922 and nothing since. Wests I'm not too sure about, maybe in the 1940's

2022-08-20T03:04:04+00:00

Adam Bagnall

Roar Guru


Ruined as in it would cheapen the game, selling out to the highest bidder each year. No history, no tradition involved in the biggest club game of the year if it's on Perth one year, Melbourne the next. I prefer the traditions the game was built on. Keep the history alive and keep the GF in Sydney.

2022-08-20T00:53:38+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


I don't really care where it's held. If my team gets to the GF I'll do my best to get to that location. Otherwise, yep, all fields look the same on TV. V'landys is the best operator in the business. There is no emotion in fighting for the best outcome for the game. The NSW Govt reneged on their deal for infrastructure upgrades so he played his hand. Politicians can more about public sentiment than facts. Big boy Perotett huffs and puffs on morning TV then runs to the bank before sundown. Who won that do you think?

2022-08-20T00:41:02+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


Ruined from your lounge chair?

2022-08-20T00:37:54+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


Yep. It is still NSWRL to some even though only 2 foundation clubs exist. Even this one's club is a hatchet job but tradition is very important.

2022-08-19T06:52:11+00:00

Micko

Roar Rookie


Sydney/South Melbourne broke a 72 year premiership drought in 2005. North Sydney & Wests must've had massive premiership droughts before merging with other (far more successful) clubs!

2022-08-19T06:42:52+00:00

KenW

Roar Rookie


A pedantic point (is there any better kind), the first year with a non-Sydney team was the first year. Newcastle was a founding club.

2022-08-19T04:50:40+00:00

Tom G

Roar Rookie


I couldn’t agree more…ever since they moved the game to bloody Homebush, the world’s biggest cul de sac, I’ve studiously avoided going there!

2022-08-19T04:01:22+00:00

Adam Bagnall

Roar Guru


Of course it is. But the Grand Final should still remain in Sydney. It's the biggest game if the year. There is zero tradition in having it in Brisbane apart from a one off game that was forced on the game.

2022-08-19T03:14:41+00:00

Tim Carter

Roar Pro


They came to play in the richer competition. Before my time to talk about relative quality. My point is that Queensland is integral to rugby league, and is integral to what was the Sydney competition and has now become the NRL.

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