'I want the boys to hurt': Everything Slipper and Rennie said about Boks 'choke', Beale, Foley prospects

By Tony Harper / Editor

Wallabies captain James Slipper gathered his beaten team together after the final whistle of the dispiriting loss to the Springboks with a clear message ahead of the looming Bledisloe Cup campaign.

There was an incredible edge to their celebrations after their opening try but that had nothing on the reaction that followed their sealer – when winger Makazole Mapimpi blasted through injured Marika Koroibete and then taunted the Wallabies player. The ugliest clash was between Allan Alaalatoa and Eben Etzebeth.

The Wallabies lost the intensity war on Saturday as the Boks, fired up after the loss in Adelaide came out hard.

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That was all a by-product of Koroibete’s hit on the Springbok in Adelaide and the visitors were riled up by the attention that try saver has garnered.

As the Boks celebrated, Stan Sport vision showed a silent Koroibete deep in thought in the Wallabies dressing room.

“As you can imagine we’re pretty disappointed. It’s quiet in there,” Slipper said.

“I made a point after the game that this one has to hurt a lot. I want the boys to hurt because yes, South Africa were good, but I just felt like we didn’t really play much rugby at all tonight.

“I just wanted the boys to realise how much it hurts and hold on to that and let that drive you into the future. We can be disappointed for a day or two but at the end of the day, we’ve got the All Blacks coming up in two weeks.

“If you still kicking cans around at that time, then that’s not going to help anyone. I want it to hurt but at the same time I want it to be better. We got to be better. “

James Slipper of the Wallabies talks to his team mates after losing The Rugby Championship match between the Wallabies and Springboks. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

On the post-match chat he said: “I just put a challenge to the group essentially.

“It’s tough when you’re walking off the field after a loss. We’ve got a lot of confidence in the group that we have but we’re after consistency. And that’s the big driver for us. When we start seeing that, I feel like we’ll see a lot of success come this way. But at this point, that’s our work on.

“At no stage do we think we’re the finished product. Individually, we just need to have a look at ourselves. I’m confident we’re tracking the right direction and we just need a bit more polish and need to execute under pressure.”

Here’s what Dave Rennie said after the game

Wallabies coach Dave Rennie said he was frustrated “we couldn’t give them a game” while praising the effort of the Springboks.

“Early on, they turned a bit of ball over against us,” said Rennie. “A couple spat out the side and gave them momentum. They certainly defended well. We just struggled to get any continuity and they strangled us pretty well.”

The Boks got the Wallabies in a stranglehold.

“I thought aerially we were excellent bar one,” said Rennie, likely talking about the brilliant play where Canan Moodie outjumped Marika Koroibete to score a try on debut.

“South Africa were very good. They choked us down the far end of the field and we lost collisions early and that was frustrating and gave them momentum,” Rennie said.

Canan Moodie of the Springboks makes a break to score a try. (Photo by Matt King/Getty Images)

“There’s a series of penalties which mean we got the yellow card [to Matt Philip] and so we got put under the heat early. Even without a lot of ball we rallied pretty well I thought in first half and it was disappointing to give up a try right on halftime.”

He said he thought going to the sheds down 7-3 the Wallabies felt they could hurt South Africa in the second half only for Moodie to cross 90 seconds before the break.

“At the end, we weren’t good enough to turn any pressure into points,” said Rennie. “There were a couple of concussions tonight which affected our ability to potentially play. The biggest thing was we needed to play with a bit more optimism tonight. “We were struggling to get our game going. We needed to play with a bit of tempo and kick smarter. We kicked a lot of ball out rather than kicking long or finding grass just in behind them where there was a fair bit of space.

“Even at 17-3 with 10 to go, we felt if we could get down the other end of the field and get some continuity, maybe we could claw this back.

“There was some excellent defence in amongst what we did tonight. But  it felt like we didn’t fire a shot and they were very good at strangling us, they go multi phase and then put it up in the corner and choke you down there.”

On the 6-2 bench split

Rennie said he would consider going for a 6-2 bench split again, although the obvious risks came home to roost as Rennie lost Hunter Paisami and Noah Lolesio to head injuries and needed Andrew Kellaway at outside centre and scrum half Jake Gordon on the wingh.

“We did it for a reason. It was a 5-2 split tonight as it turned out,” Rennie said ruefully pointing to the loss of Taniela Tupou without him getting on the field.

“That is a risk and we ended up losing a 10 and 12 and halfback on the wing and Marika on one leg for a big chunk of that second half. It worked well for us last week, maybe put us under a bit of heat tonight.”

He said the team had “trained for the worst case scenario. So Kells has trained as a 13. Hodgey at 10, Jake’s probably had about two moves on the wing. So not a lot but I thought I thought he was excellent, both when he came on the wing and then when we moved him into nine.

“It’s not ideal. But it happens in footy nowadays but it obviously affected our  continuity of play late in the game.

“What we’re looking for is consistency. Last week we had 70 minutes of excellent footy and we wanted to build on that tonight.

“International rugby at the moment is so tight and you’ve only got to be a couple of cogs off and you’re going to end up finishing second and we’ve seen that right throughout this Rugby Championship.

“So we’ve got to be better. We’ve got to win those key contests and and we were well short in that area tonight. There are key areas where we’ve got to be better. And the tempo we needed to play at against South Africa, which we did well last week we couldn’t emulate it tonight and it’s disappointing.”

On the All Blacks clash

Rennie said Lolesio and Paisami should be available next week – although it is right on the 12 days compulsory stand down. He was asked if Kurtley Beale and Bernard Foley would come into the mix.

“They’re all possibilities,” Rennie said. “We’ll reassess, we’ll pick another squad from an All Black campaign point of view, and we’ll name that Wednesday.”

 On the concussed back he added: “From an amount of days point of view, it’s not an issue. They will still go through the same sort of protocols. Hunter was ruled out immediately as category one, and Noah failed his HIA –  he’s certainly had headaches even after the game. So we’ll assess that.”

Rennie confirmed Tupou had another calf issue.

“It’s almost down towards his Achilles, but it’s not an Achilles injury. It’s something to do with his calf,” said Rennie.

“We got an update at halftime that he felt something during the warm up during the first half and so he got tested again after halftime and it was no good.”

Australia can still win the trophy this season with two games to play, as can their three rivals.

New Zealand lead the way on 10 points while the rest have 9 each.

“It’s a tough competition. You’ve got to be at your best every week to be in with a sniff,” Rennie said.

“There’s no shortage of motivation in this group and no shortage of belief. But we’ve got to win those key moments and we’ve got to do the basics a hell of a lot better. We were a long way away from the start we had last week.”

The Crowd Says:

2022-09-05T20:06:58+00:00

LED

Guest


Every coach you put in charge of the Wallabies gets similar stats. I’m telling you It ain’t the coach!

2022-09-05T19:40:51+00:00

Intercept

Guest


That is the best constructed excuse for a whipping that I've ever read.

2022-09-05T10:35:15+00:00

In brief

Guest


Any honest analysis needs to factor in the referee and TMO - they had a significant impact on the match.

2022-09-05T10:13:35+00:00

Tez

Roar Rookie


I have no evidence but Tupou has an attitude problem imo, not a dodgey calf. I would drop him from the squad and send him back to his kid in Brisbane. The way Tupou is going he will not be in the EOYT or RWC squads.

2022-09-05T05:26:25+00:00

Tooly

Roar Rookie


This “ I want them to hurt “ is crap. Feeling depressed won’t help them , they need to buck up and be confident. Rennie and Weismantle have this childish “ make ‘em angry “ attitude. Angry won’t help either , they should try a bit of BS and praise .

2022-09-04T11:32:22+00:00

pm

Roar Rookie


I saw one at 25 minutes where White had to turn about another 30 degrees casue NL was about 10m back from where he expected . There may have been one pre-10 minutes (before i was looking for it). After that NL barely got the ball. My impression was more that White had decided to feed the forwards cause when we did have the ball we were around the 22 and fairly central (more than freezing Noah out or Noah's poor positioning) After that he got concussed at about 41, went off at about 43. Did have pretty limited involvements at the game line overall, but it's tricky to put that on him as Wallabies were on the back foot most of the time and couldn't secure our own ball

2022-09-04T10:33:49+00:00

Sinckler for the rules

Roar Rookie


Need to consider the relative strengths of team faced as well. For example 2015 scotland, Italy, Wales, Ireland were a lot weaker than DR era teams. The gap between NH teams has closed significantly if not been extinguished.

2022-09-04T09:37:31+00:00

cinque

Roar Rookie


"I want the boys to hurt" "They will be filthy" So many cliches ... "winning the collision" "out-enthused" "out-muscled" Marx, Etzebeth & Kolisi (for instance) will generally out-muscle Fa'ingaa, Arnold and McReight, because they bring more Newton-metres. Without players like Kerevi, a team need to side-step the bulk with technique, teamwork, pace and discipline. Just like the Japanese did in 2015.

2022-09-04T09:06:23+00:00

Big Daddy

Roar Rookie


One scary MF .

2022-09-04T08:01:23+00:00

pm

Roar Rookie


Just startng a rewatch while doing a sunday morning workout. Watched the first half of Castres - Racing just then, which was much much more entertaining, and notable how flat Finn Russell is playing . But I want to see what looks different the secobd time, will keep an eye on NL's positioning

2022-09-04T07:58:54+00:00

Passit2me

Roar Rookie


"Consistency" is our work on? Are you being serious Slipper? For 5 long years under Cheika, all we heard from the Wallabies was about the "need for Consistency". Are you really going to continue torturing us with these empty words that are clearly still having no impact? How about the Coaches simplify things for our forwards. "When a guy in a gold or indigenous jersey carries the ball up, the 2 closest forwards are to run up either side of him and be first to the breakdown to protect our ball". "No Arnold, I do not want you hanging back away from the breakdown so you can be the next ball carrier. If you are 1 of the 2 closest forwards to the ball carrier, I want you putting your head in there. If you don't like that idea, you can leave now and make room for someone who sees the sense in this most basic of strategies".

2022-09-04T07:42:14+00:00

Passit2me

Roar Rookie


Want the boys to hurt? Is that a joke? It hurts to lose, but these forwards clearly just don’t care enough about the jersey to string together even just 2 inspiring performances back to back. If you want to see hurt, you need to go old school. The forwards should face 2 absolutely brutal fitness sessions that make them puke whenever they fail to make the breakdown their top priority. You don’t want to put your head in there tonight because the Boks forwards are going to come out firing? Fine, it’s the Sandhills till you puke next week. Wait until they have the 2 week break between matches, then brutalise them at training, until the very idea of producing another insipid performance like last night, absolutely terrifies them. But of course, our coaches won’t have the courage to do that because we need to look after the players “emotional health” :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

2022-09-04T07:37:40+00:00

Just Nuisance

Roar Rookie


Thank you . I think I got the 56% prior to this match one or another rugby site . Close enough in my books .And yes Foster has the best win ratio stats any coach in the Rugby Championship but faces the most heat which was really the point I was making before being not so politely reminded I had no idea what I’m talking about ..

2022-09-04T07:35:04+00:00

ScrumJunkie

Guest


Quotas

2022-09-04T07:27:30+00:00

Brenton Viljoen

Guest


Ian Forster: 18 from 28 (64% win) Jacques Nienaber: 12 from 20 (60% win) Micheal Cheika 4 from 7 (57% win) Dave Rennie 11 from 27 (40% win)

2022-09-04T07:20:55+00:00

Brenton Viljoen

Guest


Nienaber is on 60% win rate mate, Forster is on 65% Cheika with the pumas is on 57%

2022-09-04T06:16:38+00:00

Adam (Though An Imposter)

Roar Rookie


No. 10 was my favourite. There should have been another: 15) If in doubt, No. 10. Else, Nos. 1-9.

2022-09-04T06:02:31+00:00

Just Nuisance

Roar Rookie


That Laager mentality is a very real one . For decades now SA Rugby have confounded analysts with handling the favourites tag very uncomfortably. Underdog status is what every Bok coach cherishes . All 3 of SAs WC wins came off the back of that . Particularly 1995 and 2019 where they were given no chance . Even 2007 ABs were outright favourites.

2022-09-04T05:20:28+00:00

Mo

Guest


I’m an Ozzie but loved that bok intensity especially at the start. Marx and kitsoff why wouldn’t you start them to smash at the beginning of the game. With the new wing and Kilbride to come back plus am and deallende the Boks have some firepower. Plus some wonderful forward power. France/Ireland haven’t won the rwc yet.

2022-09-04T04:19:31+00:00

WEST

Roar Guru


From an outside perspective.. Geez what an intense game!! Don’t beat yourselves up to much Wallaby supporters. Boks just got the better of you on the day, like you did last week.. twice the year before. It was a brutal entertaining game, throw in some drama, a bit of revenge a scuffle. Like a good novel. Still time left, the Wallabies have a great opportunity to beat the ABs at least once. The way things are going, we’re all hot one week off the next. Argentina also have a great opportunity to beat the Boks at least once. So! It’s going to come down to who collects BP or denying a team of a BP. Entertaining match, Ebon starting turning into Hulk! I was waiting for him to turn green and explode out of his jersey.. then sheepishly run out of the stadium. Maybe next time he’ll get angry enough.

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