Aus vs NZ studs and duds: 'Phenomenal' Foley, player with 'I want to beat you spirit', Swain 'stupidity'

By Tony Harper / Editor

Bernard Foley, the so-called ‘Iceman,’ was clearly too chill for the liking of pedantic French referee Mathieu Raynal, but emerged from his comeback Test against New Zealand with plenty of credit in the bank.

You can only imagine what was going through Noah Lolesio’s mind when he watched Foley make an impressive and seamless return to the Test arena for the first time in three years – that decisive late call for time wasting that presented the All Blacks their victory aside.

Coach Dave Rennie had wanted a Quade Cooper-style impact from Foley and that’s what he got. Lolesio has his moments, but at 22 is still a work in progress. The big error that Foley made at the end was one you might expect from a youngster – then again Raynal came up with a decision that neither James Slipper or Sam Whitelock had ever encountered before, so it’s difficult to be harsh on him for being tardy with his penalty kick.

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Foley landed six goals from six attempts, and ran the game in the second half as the Wallabies hit the front after trailling by 18 at one point.

“I thought he was sensational,” said Wallabies coach Dave Rennie.

“He controlled the game really well, his goal-kicking was exceptional. He’s just very confident, he gives a lot of confidence to people around him, has good energy and voice, a real positive mindset.

 (Photo by Kelly Defina/Getty Images)

“Down 31-13 it’s easy to start thinking it’s going to be a tough finish to the game but he kept encouraging us to play and play at the right part of the field. So yeah I thought he had a big game.”

Foley was excited to be back in the Test arena, although gutted by the devastating loss.

And if he was the clear choice of a “stocks rising” player from this game, then Lolesio’s stocks must have fallen at the same time.

“There were big question marks about whether he still had the juice to play at this level and he got better and better,” said Jim Tucker of Foley on The Roar Instant Reaction podcast.

“He had two lovely moments in the second half – that short pass to Kellaway getting through two big All Black forwards to able to throw that pass and then shortly after a long pass that hit Kellaway on the fly and he scores again.

“They were two classy touches. You could see him rising into the game and the chat that he was giving to a backline that was pieced together really, there were some really big moments.”

Brett McKay told the podcast he had doubted Foley’s ability to make an impact.

“I had huge question marks on him going into this game (but) he was clearly the biggest stock rising,” McKay said.

“The way that he absorbed the contest and got himself into the rhythm of Test match rugby again through the first half and then started picking his moments in the second half it’s what we’ve seen from the likes of Dan Carter, Beauden Barrett and Richie Mo’unga.

“I can’t give Bernard Foley enough credit for that performance tonight, particularly that second half performance of his. It was absolutely phenomenal.”

‘He was outstanding’

Pete Samu made a rare start in the No.7 jersey and was superb.

“I think Pete Samu has been one of our best players even though he comes off the bench each week, he’s been outstanding,” said Rennie.

“We’ve talked a number of times about starting him, but his impact has been excellent off the bench.

“We just felt he was going to give us physicality, and he’s got a game both sides of the ball, he was outstanding.”

Harry Jones, speaking on the podcast, said: “He had quite a few hard on the ball moments. Samu showed that you want him on the park.

“He could match up with All Blacks. He has skill, athleticism, and he’s got that I want to get in your face and beat you spirit.”

Andrew Kellaway continued his strong form against the All Blacks, scoring his fifth try in four games against the Kiwis. He should probably have helped himself to a hat-trick, coming close to a first half try before his second half double.

Rennie smiled off a question about Kellaway making the No.15 jersey his own, and no wonder, considering the injury toll the coach continues to face.

“He’s a hell of a player, he’s got a real complete skill set and it was nice to see him in a bit of space today,” Rennie said.

“He wore the 15 tonight, he wore it well, chances are he’ll wear it again next week.”

Tucker raised Kellaway as a player whose stocks rose, praising his “safety factor”.

“He does something that’s really important as a fullback,” Tucker said. “He’ll catch a high kick in that first one or two metres like James O’Connor used to do when he was playing on the wing or fullback – he’d make a really strong one or two metres forward, enough time for the cavalry to get around him and save the situation.

“That’s a really important skill to have. And to have that amount of gas and timing when you’re coming into the line. We’re talking about two great tries, he should have scored three.”

No prizes for guessing the biggest dud

It’s rare for a team to lose and for it to be tough to name underperformers. However, replacement lock Darcy Swain continued his disappointing season on the wrong side of the laws when he was yellow carded a minute after coming on.

His tackle that buckled the leg of Quinn Tupaea angered NZ coach Ian Foster, while Harry Jones called it a clear red card offence. Swain already spent three weeks out of action after a red card against England in Perth this year.

“Darcy Swain has to stop that. It’s stupid,” said Jones.

“You’re already under the pump and then you do something that looks like you’re targeting someone’s knee. I don’t know if he was or wasn’t these are dynamic situations. But don’t develop a reputation because I think he’s starting to.”

Ultimately the good and bad performances from both sides will be overshadowed by one refereeing call.

Foster saw it as a clear and correct call. Not many others did.

“That was a referee who wanted to own the result himself,” said Tucker.

“No one in the All Blacks even considered that would be a penalty whistled their way. To their absolute credit the Wallabies refrained from blowing up deluxe. But I’m going to – it was the most ridiculous decision I’ve seen.

Referee Mathieu Raynal speaks to Nic White and Bernard Foley. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

“The Frenchman was a complete disgrace. That s just not what playing Test football is about. That decision is just absolutely ridiculous. And it’s just stuffed up a classic. That was a great Test match stuffed up by a Frenchman trying to put his name in a headline.”

Harry Jones was likewise fuming. “The refs are too famous in rugby – we know their names too much,” he said. “He stuffed it up. He should hang his head in shame. And I think he should never ref a big game.”

The Crowd Says:

2022-09-17T21:33:42+00:00

Redbeard

Roar Rookie


No NorthKiwi, The Bledisloe is gone from thr Australian perspective. The team not holding the Bled Cup needs to win both games in the Current format to take the Cup

2022-09-17T12:52:33+00:00

Faith

Roar Rookie


Cane cleared to play. Need his leadership

2022-09-17T12:48:51+00:00

Faith

Roar Rookie


Cane also cleared. I hope they try Jordie at 12.

2022-09-17T09:48:31+00:00

TSR

Guest


McCaw used the neck role regularly. It just wasn’t iillegal then. Swain’s actions - deliberate or not - were reckless and I’d be surprised if he doesn’t get a lengthy ban. He does remind me of a young Horwill in that Horwill started out a hot head who pushed the line too much and gave away a lot of penalties before he reigned it in and became a much better player. Hopefully Swain will do the same. I thought he had some reckless moments for the Brumbies too.

2022-09-17T01:54:15+00:00

Jokerman

Roar Guru


Yeah that’s what I meant :happy:

2022-09-17T00:30:00+00:00

Dusty10

Roar Rookie


Front is awesome, so is Tom Hooper. I'm actually surprised people aren't speaking about Tom as he is a very big body with a LOT of talent. Maybe he's injured? Considered too inexperienced at Super level?

2022-09-17T00:27:59+00:00

Dusty10

Roar Rookie


Time taken to put the ball out was also quite costly, mate....

2022-09-17T00:26:49+00:00

Dusty10

Roar Rookie


I thought Leota was great, Geoff, but the figures do look terrible. Wow. Maybe it was more his ruckwork and the turnover I noted, I suppose. I actually thought it was one of his better games and he could have really grown into it, as Samu did, before the injury. Completely agree about Holloway though. Again, I really like Holloway, he did some outstanding things for the Watatahs this season, but his kick-off receptions were terrible and he had very little impact with ball in hand. He's definitely not Whitelock. Or at least, not at the moment. I hope he finds his form again.

2022-09-17T00:20:41+00:00

Dusty10

Roar Rookie


Agree with almost everything you said Dr. I'd just add that our backrowers made it possible for Foley to run. They had the All Blacks tied up stopping them in the middle and around the edges. Or, at least, had them worrying about having to cover some good hard running forwards AS WELL AS a dangerous backline. The game was less predictable for them. This meant Foley had opportunities, and he picked his moments really well. I think Lolesio has shown some ability to do this (e.g., against SA in Adelaide), but he really needs more confidence and desire to just have that ball in his hands. He seems to go missing. I really like Noah, such a good hard-working kid, but that's just it; it's like he's too young to be directing around the men whom he plays with. Hope he grows into it, and fast. Otherwise, please Mr Rennie, give Edmed some time in the saddle. Foley and Cooper won't be around forever.

2022-09-17T00:10:17+00:00

Dusty10

Roar Rookie


Gordon put a few up too Phil, although I really like Gordon. He's brilliant for the Waratahs, and I suspect will become a leader or possibly even future captain with the Wallabies. Just needs more starts and some consistency at 10 to hit his straps.

2022-09-17T00:06:36+00:00

Dusty10

Roar Rookie


Jake Gordon's binning was also unwarranted. The ref can see the replays, but they're ignored. Gordon went in to oppose the maul legally, no attempt to grab hold and pull anyone down. He got trampled. It's like the refs are now saying you can't go in and oppose the maul if you don't actually WIN the maul. Crazy.

2022-09-16T22:05:36+00:00

Short Arm

Roar Rookie


Yeah, your probably right on Ikitau as the cupboard is pretty bare, just that JOC got puntered for the same stuff.

2022-09-16T21:36:07+00:00

JC

Roar Rookie


Agree, D10. It was reckless, which is what happens in the fire of an intense game like that, but never intentional. Injuries are always regrettable but making out like Swain is a dirty player is overkill.

2022-09-16T21:30:36+00:00

cinque

Roar Rookie


Yes, his defence is a big problem. The effort is there but he falls off too many tackles, tackles that White or Gordon might make. Or not ... Got to give Mo'unga credit for that try, but still. The era of the half-back sized 10 is coming to an end, which may put Donaldson ahead of Edmed. Or not.

2022-09-16T21:29:56+00:00

Short Arm

Roar Rookie


Dusty, I'm not a big fan of Darcy being in the team as his work rate is not as high as others but I too don't think he meant to bust that guys knee, it was a reckless accident.

2022-09-16T21:23:28+00:00

Short Arm

Roar Rookie


Sir Colin Meads as well.

2022-09-16T18:27:20+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Calm down. If we wanted to suddenly enforce a "use it nine" on the caterpillar time waste or "run to the lineout" (if Foley had hoofed it out quicker, the Wallabies would still have sauntered to the LO) protocol, both of which routinely chew up more time in a match than what Foley did, make it clear pre-match or pre-season, put everyone on alert (as we did with aerials or brake feet or the 60/90 second kick routine) and do it all game. He didn't. He whipped that unique penalty out at 79 minutes, sounding exactly like a "use it nine" (which never gets pinged) then reversed it, and the massive difference was a WB LO at the half or a NZ scrum at the 5. There are plenty of Kiwis who find this whole way of winning unpleasant; so it's not some "minority" view or parochial. The overall consensus is it was not the time and place to get exotic about that sort of call. He had other options (time off all the way to the lineout; to get 10+ seconds "back"). He took the most punitive.

2022-09-16T18:12:57+00:00

One Eye

Roar Rookie


Firstly, no matter what you think of McCaw, no action of his ever ended a players season or potentially career. Secondly, I think the worst of that grubs play, most other people I am ambivalent about.

2022-09-16T18:05:05+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


helpful

2022-09-16T18:04:45+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


I panicked. The page was scrolling so fast, I felt I was going to lose my penalty and a Frog would start murmuring "ten" to me, softly, whilst I lost the plot.

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