Is rugby wrestling? Refs have become stage managers instead of officiators as game heads towards reality TV territory

By TiredOldGit / Roar Rookie

The opening Bledisloe Cup game was a tipping point in terms of how frequently the referee is the centre point of fan dialogue and analysis.

Over-officiated games are such the norm now is it worth the emotional investment?

This is not going an individual referee incident gripe, but rather a look at what has actually changed in the game in the context of an op ed written in the NY Times about professional wrestling – a a theatre “sport”.

With each argued bad call there is often the “letter of the law fan” and then the “hypocrisy” fan that has all the screen shots that show inconsistency. Then you have the salt emoji fans, who would be happy if the Bledisloe were retained through rain cancellation as long as bragging rights were confirmed. And it is tiresome.

Rugby does not suit this era of technology and head protection hindsight. This game is a scrap with many laws and seems to have difficulty admitting that perfection from players is beyond impossible. But where would that leave the game? So instead, we have 20 plus penalties a game and the same tired quotes about it being the fault of player discipline.

In 2016, New York Times writer Jeremy Gordon wrote an article called “Is Everything Wrestling?”

“The charms of professional wrestling — half Shakespeare, half steel-chair shots — may never be universally understood. Every adult fan of the sport has encountered those skeptics who cock their heads and ask, “You do know it’s fake, right?,” he wrote.

Referee Mathieu Raynal speaks to Nic White and Bernard Foley of the Wallabies during The Rugby Championship & Bledisloe Cup match between the Australia Wallabies and the New Zealand All Blacks at Marvel Stadium on September 15, 2022 in Melbourne, Australia. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

“Well, sure, but that hasn’t stopped pro wrestling from inching closer and closer to the respectable mainstream. Last year, World Wrestling Entertainment announced a partnership with ESPN, leading to straight-faced wrestling coverage on “SportsCenter.” The biggest action star in the world, Dwayne Johnson, known as the Rock, got his start as an eyebrow-waggling wrestler.

“This is partly because the rest of the world has caught up to wrestling’s ethos. With each passing year, more and more facets of popular culture become something like wrestling: a stage-managed “reality” in which scripted stories bleed freely into real events, with the blurry line between truth and untruth seeming to heighten, not lessen, the audience’s addiction to the melodrama. The modern media landscape is littered with “reality” shows that audiences happily accept aren’t actually real; that, in essence, is wrestling.”

I don’t think rugby is entering the arena of reality TV just yet but there is some troubling consistency with games that referees are becoming more “stage managers” than refs.

I will go through the final minute time delay from the Bledisloe gamet as I think there was an earlier moment in the game that adds weight.

Darcy Swain’s attack on the leg of Quinn Tupaea was gruesome and probably the closest thing to blatant foul play with intent to injure I have seen in a long time. There seems to be weighing up the game so far by refs when handing out cards. This is not reffing, this is stage management.

Then there are cards that seem to balancing out previous bad calls that have caught up with the ref production team, such as Jake Gordon’s collapsing of the maul.

And I’m sure All Black fans will never forget Romain saying in the final Lions game “We have a deal…”.

The referees create stories that bleed into real events (the game) by choosing when to enact a law. This what leads to the post-game fan analysis of inconsistencies that is happening quite often. This doesn’t feel like the sport I know nor does it feel like sport.

This is driven by technology, fan focus on inconsistencies and over thinking by administrators who feel backed into a corner by these things (no tin foil hats here). Also, the level of perfection required by players is not possible. I’m sure refs are as confused as what to do as the players.

The biggest example of stage management in the Bledisloe came in the final minute. Throughout the game you had the standard slow penalty kicks, huddles before lineouts, injuries at scrum time and scrum resets.

In a strange 39 seconds that saw Nic White holding the ball discussing scrum or kick, time off by the ref, time back on that Foley claims to have not heard and then a blow up by the number ten: “time was off!”.

A lot of people say they have never seen this before. One area they have never seen this before was in the previous 79 minutes of the game.

This is fodder for the “letter of the law fans” vs the “hypocrisy” fans.

Raynal’s last minute fever over quick ball seemed to be missing for quite a bit of the game. So if it is a the law driving him, why was it so paramount in only the last minute? That is not reffing, that is stage management. And the few light times he said something through the game to do not constitute taking control nor do they justify the sudden final minute escalation.

No other player at penalty time copped the amount of direction from the ref during the game: play, time off, play, play. The ref wanted that ball in play for the last minute as quickly as possible, but was not too bothered during the rest of the match. Stage management. If it’s about laws, then the laws are the same throughout the game – are they not?

This is the contradiction that drives rugby fans mad. After every match they get gas lit about the game and the laws and are drowned out and bullied by the salt emoji fans.

Rugby is not scripted like wrestling but interpretations of these laws mean referees can be like an improv theatre coach yelling out “now your clumsy store clerk who keeps breaking things”. Who knows which way they will direct you next. But they are backed into this corner by technology and post-game analysis.

For me, rugby eventually needs to admit it has a lot of harsh penalties for things that seem frequent and unavoidable.

Currently, there is a system where the heavy sanctions are around head protection and foul play, accidental versions of the same thing and then full arm penalties. Then a whole bunch of rabbits that get pulled out of the hat from time to time.

The protocols for head contact are meant to equal objectivity for the ref but technology means we are seeing everything in slow motion.

This combined with ruck infringements and offsides, we are seeing 20+ full arm penalties in many games and many cards.

With the amount of data now, rugby should know what infringements seem to be unavoidable in due to speed and nature of the modern game.

If speeding up the game is actually something that the administrators want, having sanctions that are developed through acknowledging the unavoidable frequency of the action with faster penalty options might be something more suitable to an enjoyable game.

Rugby league acknowledged this with the six-again rule as too many dummy half plays were delayed through the penalty kick – which is what the out of breath offending team wanted.

It’s tough to change a traditional game and have fans give you the thumbs up. But I would enjoy common infringements being calculated as team fouls like in basketball that equal a chance at points if they build to a certain point. If the ball is still playable, play it.

An immediate full arm penalty for everything in rugby is killing the speed and enjoyment of the game. The TMO is killing the speed and enjoyment of the game.

Things will still be missed but at least the difference between missing things and not won’t be certain points or a set piece near the try line that leave fans going off.

Lowering the harshness of the sanction for common things would lower the spotlight on refs who seem to be stressed into creating the right balancing act each game which equals stage management not officiating.

Fans who like the technical aspect of the game would hate this idea as they like to think rugby is like chess and you’re a troglodyte who has a team that just can’t adapt to it. Except the rules/laws of chess can’t be “interpreted”.

Then occasionally there is a game the bucks the trend and purist go “nothing to see here”.

Rugby is a game where people talk about its values. Well, the very nature of sport requires it to be a fair competition. Interpretation of the laws and inconsistencies are leaving fans after each game going “that’s not fair”.

No decider at Eden Park, just screen shots and salt emojis.

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AUTHOR

2022-09-21T01:31:43+00:00

TiredOldGit

Roar Rookie


Would you say that the current situation is also hard? Considering people say there should be 60+ penalties per match if they were all called. If all a lot of common fouls/penalties resulted in 3 warnings and then a half arm or march 10 meters for a tap with the ref calling time on, there's be a lot less leaning on that call and fewer 50 seconds walks to lineouts, or 90 second kicks for goals. Maybe just introducing this in between the two 22 meter lines to encourage faster rugby. It's a hard game to change but asking players to take the ref out of the game when perfection is beyond impossible and you get what these recent games look like.

2022-09-21T00:45:18+00:00

jcmasher

Roar Rookie


Be hard to do in a club game with no ARs, no TMO and just biased spectators

2022-09-20T14:03:08+00:00

OracleRugby

Roar Rookie


Nice read

AUTHOR

2022-09-20T07:49:06+00:00

TiredOldGit

Roar Rookie


Thanks for the comment, Masher. In response to "things will be missed" I want the game to acknowledge that there are very common "illegal" actions and change the game to have such a low level of sanction for them that it doesn't impact the game in a way that results in Rassie videos. The reason I bring up basketball is because a slapped wrist is illegal contact but that happens because people are attempting to steal a ball while players are moving their arms and bodies. It's a quick throw in but if your team build up to 5 it is an attempt at points, no matter where the foul happens on the court. If I were to draw comparison to rugby, it would be like if a slapped wrist equalled free throws every time. If this were the case in basketball, a team that loses by 5 points would be going through every second of tape to find missed slapped wrists. Nearly every ruck, every maul and every scrum at the moment is a full arm advantage/penalty. Often these equal a lineout 5 meters out or 3 points. The players will never get to the level of perfection required to keep the ref out of it, so the game needs to change the level of sanction so every penalty is not such a game changer. My opinion is that infringements that don't stop the play of the ball in rucks, mauls and scrums should be play on if the ball can be played. And the ref/TMO can count up team fouls for these things in either a string of phases or a half and when they reach a certain amount = 3 points or set piece (choice of the team). I know this is a big change but rugby is a victim of technology. 80s rugby was less perfect than it is now yet less penalties called. The only thing that has changed is people calling the game out with video analysis after every game. I think the "interpretaion" of the law is spin on an instruction to "keep the penalties balanced" because, like everyone is saying, if you called every penalty there would be 60. I don't think it's fair refs should have to overthink keeping a balance on what they are calling. Create a tiered approach to sanctions based on the frequency and unavoidability (and if ball still playable) of the action so that not everything is a potential game changing penalty.

2022-09-20T06:50:04+00:00

jcmasher

Roar Rookie


Nice write up. The trouble with the “things will be missed” part is that this is exactly the thing that people like Erasmus and others will jump on to try and hang the referee with. Players, coaches, administrators and spectators are demanding perfection and when it doesn’t happen blame the referee. Referees are feeling the hate and so to try and reduce this they are spending more time looking at incidents to try and get them right. This takes time and so now they are vilified for taking the time to do what we want them to do. I think that unfortunately this isn’t going to go away because people will not allow it to. I am still an active referee and I’d suggest that probably 90% of calls in a game are subjective based on what you see from where you are standing. At every ruck you will see something different depending on where you are standing and unfortunately for the referee; TV, spectators, players and coaches are never standing where the referee is and so have a different picture and then complain when the referee makes a different decision. The issue actually isn’t with the referee, it’s with all of us to accept that the referee will not see what we see and will rule differently. We need to accept that and move on

AUTHOR

2022-09-19T00:44:57+00:00

TiredOldGit

Roar Rookie


Exactly and thank you for the comment. I think a lot who have read this article maybe think it's a long winded attempt to say that "we was robbed". It's about the game in general. I don't want the ref to be a character of the game. I don't want them to have their arm up for most of the game. I don't want them to balance the penalty count, I don't want them making howlers. I want rugby to be sport.

2022-09-18T22:39:11+00:00

In brief

Guest


I agree with this article. Rugby is not a game of chess. An important point you hint at is a lot of laws aren’t laws at but rather interpretations. This is where a lot of the inconsistencies come from. To give an obvious one, referees reward dominant scrums with a penalty. There is no dominant scrum penalty in the law book. At the breakdown tacklers get penalised for holding on when they are entitled to play the ball after the tackle - ever seen a pass off the ground or reach out for a try? Yet the ‘jackal’ wins the penalty even if he isn’t touching the ball. As with the scrum the referee rewards a good picture, not reality. Now that is pure theatre.

2022-09-18T18:37:31+00:00

Passit2me

Roar Rookie


That is part of my point though Ferret. The ruck is a very dynamic aspect of the game that regularly sees players driven off their own feet by their own team mates coming in behind them and not enough oppositional resistance in front of them. So often, we see players coming in quickly to secure their own ball at the ruck, who end up on their hands and feet, yet don’t get penalised? A player rushes in to steal the ball, momentarily loses their balance, puts their hands on the ground so they don’t end up on their face, then goes for the steal. If we want to reduce penalties in the game, then we could start with that one.

2022-09-18T12:46:51+00:00

The Ferret

Roar Rookie


Hi pass… I disagree with your view of the hackle. By not allowing them to put their hands on the ground it is simply an extension of them supporting their body weight. You must be on your feet to play they ball and if you are using your hands to support your weight you are no longer on you feet. You are on all fours so penalty.

2022-09-18T12:43:00+00:00

The Ferret

Roar Rookie


“If that happened to Pollard of the Boks, we would have had a video out already of the 6 thousand eight hundred and seventy two times the other teams had taken longer on penalties.” Those Videos do my head in. I get there are in consistencies in rugby but how about the Boks be honest with themselves and show all the times they got the benefit of the doubt from the ref too.

2022-09-18T01:59:18+00:00

LuckyPhil

Roar Rookie


I don't want to mention his name, but that was pretty poor sportsmanship to come running in like that. Reminded me of a few Qlders that were well known for being the 3rd player into a fight during State of Origin.

2022-09-18T01:55:31+00:00

LuckyPhil

Roar Rookie


DA, interesting that the scrum penalties should only be for intentionally pulling the scrum down or intentionally lifting the opposition front row up... It is hard to say that all scrum penalties are because of intentional foul play. Get the ball out and get on with it.

2022-09-17T23:36:12+00:00

Peter Darrow

Roar Guru


Watch on You Tube highlights of Springboks vs Argentina game and see who the dominant personality is, I'll give you a hint it is not one of the players!!

2022-09-17T20:08:52+00:00

Passit2me

Roar Rookie


Yeah, the post wasn’t just about Valetini though, it was the poor technique and lack of chasers for what should have been a demolition over the ball. Yes, they needed to drive over the ball like a good old fashioned ruck, but we didn’t turn up. The AB’s managed to however, despite being massively on the back foot. They turned, bound and drove with perfect technique, while we just made fools of ourselves. It’s so embarrassing to watch, but I reckon our guys probably don’t even know it. Our issues up front have been going on for so long, they probably no longer have any idea how bad they are a times.

2022-09-17T12:24:03+00:00

Crusher_13

Roar Rookie


Bit rough on big Bobby V! You are right though, he didn't do anything, but I watched the link you posted 5 times, by the time he managed to get there the AB's had completely smashed JH, who was side on, and more of an obstacle than anything else to Valetini. The initial effort from LI and JH needed to going past the ball, not trying to win the ball. Winning the ball gives the AB's a target, especially as MK didn't control the collision, he wasn't in a position to do anything at all. And I keep seeing the replay from the end of the game. I can see why someone might refuse to shake Dan Coles' hand. Runs a good 35m and tries to take the ball from Foley when it was a scum, time off, and no chance to play on quickly. Just being a twat.

2022-09-17T10:37:35+00:00

Passit2me

Roar Rookie


Don't want to upset the darlings with a Walters Spray :silly:

2022-09-17T10:34:27+00:00

Passit2me

Roar Rookie


This site just told me that I "Liked" my own comment :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: I don't know how to feel about that :sick:

2022-09-17T09:18:21+00:00

Double Agent

Guest


Agree with the hands on the ground before the pilfer. Is only reffed correctly 50% of the time. And what does it matter anyway? Also if the ball is about to come out the back of a scrum (or has actually come out) then play on. I couldn't care less if a prop is twisted up like a pretzel or a hooker has popped or someone's elbow touched the ground. Just put it in the side of the scrum and get it out of the back and let the boys play.

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2022-09-17T08:51:51+00:00

TiredOldGit

Roar Rookie


Sigh. Yep. Did you also notice Jake Gordon just strolling to the base of the ruck in the first 20 minutes. Drove me nuts.

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2022-09-17T08:33:56+00:00

TiredOldGit

Roar Rookie


True. I think they could do with a bit if Craig Bellamy's "effort errors" approach.

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