The Wrap: Betting it all on 13 Black - how Conrad Smith can help fix rugby’s pressing issues

By Geoff Parkes / Expert

It was no surprise to find Conrad Smith, on the morning of the recent Bledisloe Cup match in Melbourne, in the company of the man with whom he formed what is widely regarded as the best centre combination in the history of rugby, Ma’a Nonu.

Along with ex-All Blacks captain Tana Umaga, Nonu had wowed a sell-out audience the night before at Bells Hotel in South Melbourne, with a personable and starkly honest account of all things rugby and life; taking after-dinner rugby speaking to a new level.

That was something I was keen to prise out of Smith; the fact that not only was he an All Black, he left a legacy as a great All Black, and was that something he sought to mirror in his current role as head of welfare for the Dublin-based International Rugby Players? Not just to do a job, but to leave a lasting impression on the game?

“I wouldn’t say that I’m on a mission, and it’s definitely not about me,” he explains. “It’s more that I’ve always had an interest in helping other players; as a lawyer I’d often get asked for advice by teammates, and so this always felt like it was a natural progression.”

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What’s immediately apparent is Smith’s passion for the role, and for rugby. “I’m certainly motivated by a few different things; to represent and be an advocate for players on welfare matters, and also to help address some of the challenges that rugby is currently facing around how the game is played.”

It’s a broad brush, brought about by necessity, but also Smith’s acute understanding of how the rugby world works, and what is required to effect change.

We chat about World Rugby and the misapprehension that many people are under when it comes to the world’s governing body.

“People assume World Rugby is like a normal business, where people have autonomy to make decisions and there is instant implementation and accountability. But it’s not like that at all; even though the governance model has changed over time, it is still a body representative of the member nations, it has a certain way of operating and voting processes, and changes can take a long time to come into effect”, he explains.

Ironically, despite clamour from all around the world for law changes to help make rugby more appealing, one of the reasons for such a cautious, conservative approach is a determination by the game’s administrators not to compromise player safety.

Darcy Swain of the Wallabies receives a red card (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

New laws and law variations, and sanctions have been introduced in recent years, many of them targeted at making the game safer; think increased clarity around playing a man in the air, and the scrum ‘brake foot’ requirement, for example.

Yet that has sometimes seemed at odds with the way rugby has dealt with the issue of head injury and concussion. While there have been changes made with respect to lowering tackle heights, these haven’t always been smoothly executed or well accepted.

Along with other sports administrations World Rugby has adopted a pitch-side assessment process for head injuries, the SCAT5 test, based on the recommendations of the Concussion in Sport Group (CISG), via a consensus statement released in 2017.

That statement was due to have been updated last year, but was subject to COVID-related delays. Already under a cloud following the revelation in 2020 that 32 of its 36 panelists were recipients of funding from sports reliant on its findings, the group came under heavy fire after allegations of plagiarism were levelled at its lead author and chair, Dr Paul McCrory, who consequently resigned his position in March this year.

Chief executive of the Concussion Legacy Foundation, Dr Chris Nowinski, accused McCrory and the CISG of misinterpreting and misrepresenting research conducted at Boston University and, over a period of years, downplaying the connection between head impacts and CTE.

As a result, Nowinski believes that a lot of people have been convinced that the dangers of CTE have been overblown.

World Rugby is yet to communicate how it intends to move forward from having its head injury protocols shaped by a group which continues to be subject to question marks over its probity and validity, but Smith remains confident that more can and will be done to advance player safety around brain injury.

“The scientific evidence increasingly points to the link between head contact in rugby and issues in later life for a number of players.” (Note that a concussion advisor to World Rugby, Dr Bob Kantu, recently co-authored a study acknowledging the causal link between sub-concussions and CTE).

“We still need to be careful about understanding what that means exactly, in terms of the decisions made around how we play the game, but there’s no doubt that concussion is being taken a lot more seriously, than say when I was playing.”

(Photo by Phil Walter/Getty Images)

In this respect, Smith expresses frustrations about how the media and public narrative plays out, stating: “People are very quick to criticise the game and highlight concerns about entertainment value and so on, but I’d like to see more balance and understanding about what is trying to be achieved.

“Yes, there are always issues when new measures are taken, and challenges around consistency with how referees apply sanctions for high contact, but at the end of the day the people in charge of rugby have to do the right thing to protect players.”

We talk about Nowinski’s recent visit to launch a branch of the Concussion Legacy Foundation in Australia, in particular the concern around links between CTE and the cumulative number of head injuries, including small sub-concussive hits, over the length of a player’s career.

“That’s something that’s a real challenge for rugby,” he says. “Personally, I’d like to see players play and train far less, and for there to be designated breaks from the game where each player was to have say a mandatory three-month rest period, every year.”

“The challenge around that however, is that club owners, national unions and now potentially private equity investors, all want their players playing as much as possible, to maximise revenue. That’s understandable, and while nobody wants to put players at risk, it’s a conflict that’s very difficult to overcome.”

So, what then, of the player’s representatives? In any ‘normal’ workplace or factory where workers were being hit in the head and shown to be suffering serious long-term health impacts as a result, it would be unthinkable that a union would allow that situation to continue without holding the management to account.

Why is rugby, and sport in general, different?

“It’s a good question,” says Smith, “and one that’s very complex to answer. On one hand, while players are increasingly conscious of their safety, and broadly accept the measures that the game is taking, they are also only in the (professional) game for a short window, and so, understandably, they seek to maximise their earnings potential in that time.”

“The other point to make is that, to use New Zealand as an example, we have enjoyed a long period where relations between New Zealand Rugby and the players have been very positive, and many changes for the better have resulted.

“That’s down the work of Rob Nichol, leading the players association, and what I learned from that is how much easier it is to effect positive change when the approach is collegial and constructive, as opposed to adversarial.”

We cast an eye towards the UK, where there are powerful advocacy groups like Progressive Rugby, and a highly publicised court action against World Rugby featuring any well-known ex-players; things that are contributing towards a push for more decisive and faster action.

Smith sees these developments as a necessary part of the process, to have the issue play out and evolve in public, so as to help raise awareness around the issue, and better inform everyone involved in the game.

“One thing I will say, is that the UK is a year or more ahead of New Zealand and Australia with respect to understanding all of the issues around head injury,” he states. “I’m talking about the whole game; players, coaches, fans and broadcasters.”

Smith isn’t exactly sure why, other than pointing to differences in culture, inside and outside of rugby, and also how media in the UK has played more of a role in educating and giving the matter prominence.

That’s a topic that hits a nerve, the fact that broadcasters frequently utilise ‘expert’ commentators who are anything but, and whose commentary is often ill-informed and conflicts with the messaging around head injury and player safety.

“One of the major issues the game has is around communication, and getting a consistent message out there. We’ve had situations recently where we’ve tried to bring broadcasters to the table, to align them on things that we’re trying to achieve, to help provide them with a more factual base, but unfortunately, few of them seem genuinely interested.”

What is most impressive about Smith is how the combination of his intelligence, common sense, personability and love for the game roll into a single package that suggests that for as long as rugby has people like him in positions of influence, the sport will be in good hands.

Modest to a fault, Smith is reluctant to be cast as some kind of crusader or messiah. But he has not taken on this role just to tick boxes, and it is clear that he is prepared to play a prominent role in leading rugby forward on the issue of head injuries.

It feels like rugby has reached a crossroads, and there is increasing conflict between those people who know what they’d like rugby to be, and those who know – when it comes to safety around head injury – what rugby needs to be.

Rugby is fortunate that there are smart people like Conrad Smith, who understand that there is a middle ground, where the essence and spirit of the game can be retained, whilst ensuring the safety of those who play it.

The Crowd Says:

2022-10-05T05:12:03+00:00

adam smith

Roar Rookie


No worries Geoff! I’m following the NFL “science” too, not sold on the supposed initial outcomes tough…

2022-10-04T23:26:16+00:00

Derek Murray

Roar Rookie


As high as that? Wow.

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2022-10-04T22:19:03+00:00

Geoff Parkes

Expert


Thanks for that, will keep a watch and see how they go with those.

2022-10-04T13:10:01+00:00

Just Nuisance

Roar Rookie


Spot on . I was so impressed with Aled Walters the Bok conditioning coach for 2019 where he went position specific . But that could only work if the players take responsibility for their own selves too . His was the biggest loss to the Bok coaching set up post the World Cup . Bigger even than Matthew Proudfoot who that cunning weasel Eddie Jones poached from us :stoked: :stoked:

2022-10-04T13:06:32+00:00

Derek Murray

Roar Rookie


Impressive bloke. Well covered, Geoff. It's bothersome that some commentators are being led to the water but are then unwilling to drink. Those people are the frontline troops in getting the message on this subject across

2022-10-04T12:57:15+00:00

TC

Roar Rookie


Geoff about those head knocks. I know they say Head-Gear doesn't really help, but when I played I used head-gear, yet when training didn't.. Found that during training I would often get head knocks from my teammates when they joined Mauls..Wasn't smart enough yo take my Skull Cap to training

2022-10-04T10:13:42+00:00

Tom

Guest


I think Rodney and jerry came through in that Wellington era. Gee they gave some.penaltys away but turned it round to become greats. Who was the Wellington coach way back then. Can still hear jerry's tackles v Italy at docklands wc. Fairly empty night game with roof closed. Bit like chiropractic sound echoing round stadium.

2022-10-04T08:48:14+00:00

Dave from My Druitt

Guest


All good partnerships but Smith amd Nonu for longevity and success they are No 1. No argument.

2022-10-04T06:11:49+00:00

adam smith

Roar Rookie


No apologies needed Geoff :happy: , I did think that was the case. And, I don’t blame you, most threads are stale by that stage… In regards to the medical view, I concur. That’s definitely my amateur understanding of things too. The helmets look…different… :laughing: Here is that link for ya: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10048983-concussions-dropped-more-than-50-percent-for-players-who-wore-guardian-caps-nfl-says

2022-10-04T04:51:06+00:00

Chivas

Roar Rookie


Yeah i dodnt mind Andrew Slack for an Aussie. He was a smart and complete midfiekder.

2022-10-04T04:44:08+00:00

Chivas

Roar Rookie


Agree NZ can be a lityle behind the game on these matters. Which is funny when you consider some of the issues we are actually on top of like human rights includeing women, LGBTQ, indigenous... bir then we were late to the party on gun laws when Aussie had down the ground work after Port Arthur.. we had to.wait until we had a simiar incident. Coming back to head injuries though we have a large number of examples of this yet still are not fully cognisant of the seriousness of it imcluding commentators. I do think the wallaby commentators are a bit more conscious of it, although both sides of the ditchbhave some truly awful commentators... bring back Mexted.

2022-10-04T03:35:32+00:00

Zak

Roar Rookie


My favourite by Gordon Bray was “Hika Reid, the unemployed nightclub bouncer, about to throw the ball into the line out for the All Blacks”

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2022-10-04T02:33:18+00:00

Geoff Parkes

Expert


Terrific story, Chook. The whole tournament was very generous in spirit towards Warnie this year, which obviously showed how well regarded he was . And to cap it off, to have his playing partner win, that was something else. It was no snack - the weather on Friday was awful and even on the last day, the sun was out but it was still very blowy. Ryan is up to 25 in the world rankings now, which makes a mockery of Trevor Immelman picking guys for the Presidents Cup who were ranked over 100.

2022-10-04T00:46:13+00:00

Machooka

Roar Guru


Morning G... late to this one but glad I got there. Very good! Great to see someone of the calibre of Conrad Smith in this role for WR... I very much feel he will make a fist of it. A worthy contributor with a necessary level head on his shoulders (no pun) for this important role. Likewise, glad you got to discuss the serious issues surrounding the ongoing nature with regards to head injury and general player's safety. Off topic... congrats on old mate Ryan's win in the Dunhill. And to think he did it without old mate SKW. What a serendipitous set of circumstances... gotta love sport. :happy: :thumbup:

2022-10-03T23:26:40+00:00

Tim J

Roar Rookie


Thanks Harry, he someone that has in depth knowledge of the game hence why he was such a great player. People would learn a lot from him on the podcast without doubt, plus he has the ability to speak a language that everyone understands.

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2022-10-03T22:18:28+00:00

Geoff Parkes

Expert


Good point, Paulo. Could have chosen my words better! :laughing:

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2022-10-03T22:17:40+00:00

Geoff Parkes

Expert


Sorry, never saw it adam. Some of those threads get very big and once it's gone 2-3 days I don't usually go back in. Helmets are interesting because the prevailing medical view is that they don't prevent the brain from reverberating inside the skull, and the other point to be made is that even if high impact concussions were reduced (clearly a good thing), there would still be concern around smaller sub-concussive hits. Clearly though, if there was to be credible medical/scientific evidence in relation to this, it would potentially be a big step forward.

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2022-10-03T22:12:13+00:00

Geoff Parkes

Expert


Thanks JN.

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2022-10-03T22:10:16+00:00

Geoff Parkes

Expert


"For a rugby coach even the conditioning expert to monitor a squad of 30 plus near impossible." Absolutely, esp when you consider how conditioning is now so position specific and individually specific.

2022-10-03T21:14:38+00:00

Ulrich

Roar Rookie


One of my all-time favourite non South African players. Huge respect for someone like him who didn't necessarily steal headlines but you could appreciate his influence if you understood and loved rugby.

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