All Blacks through the ages: Who did it better?

By Peter Darrow / Roar Guru

Former All Blacks incomparable Zinzan Brooke was reported recently as saying his 1995 New Zealand side would beat the current team of Kiwis.

I know it’s all conjecture and many do not like to compare teams from different eras. And what is the point anyway?

But I thought it would be a worthwhile exercise to compare the two sides individually and how they stack up in opposition to each other.

It is 27 years since the All Blacks played England in the semi-final of the Rugby World Cup in 1995, thrashing them 45-29, with Jonah Lomu establishing himself as the best marketing tool available to rugby.

In the weekend just gone the All Blacks also played England, resulting in a 25-25 draw. At the time of the 1995 match, rugby union was still an amateur game about to go professional two months after the World Cup. But were they just amateur in name only? Players such as Sean Fitzpatrick, Zinzan Brooke and Jeff Wilson were the most ‘professional’ among them.

So who are the players who make up these two teams?

Glen Osborne vs Beauden Barrett

At fullback was Glen Osborne in 1995 and Beauden Barrett in 2022 – two very good attacking players who will attract a divided selection from punters. I perceived Barrett to be the smaller of the two. but according to the stats, he’s actually larger. In 2016 Osborne became a police officer with John Hart in attendance at his graduation ceremony. Barrett has played more games for the All Blacks, with 110 appearances to Osborne’s 29. On this basis and being consistently good over a lengthy period, Beauden Barrett gets the nod. One to the 22s.

Caleb Clarke vs Jonah Lomu

Sorry, Caleb, I do not need a summary for this one. One to the 95s.

Mark Telea vs Jeff Wilson

And yes, again, apologies to Mark, but Jeff wins this one. Two to the 95s. One is a relative newcomer to international rugby, the other is a brilliant all-round sportsman.

Rieko Ioane vs Frank Bunce

Bunce amazingly retired from international rugby at 35 years of age and established a reputation for his strong defence and attacking skills. He probably wasn’t as quick as Rieko, but he was a better all-round player. Rieko is still finding his way as a centre, so the prize goes to Bunce. Three to the 95s.

Jordie Barrett vs Walter Little

Little built a centre relationship with Bunce which has been bettered only by Conrad Smith and Ma’a Nonu. Barrett is just getting started as a second five-eighth for the All Blacks, so the points must go to Walter. Four to the 95s.

Richie Mo’unga vs Andrew Mehrtens

Mehrtens was born in South Africa and now resides in Sydney. He was a very skilful player who lacked the physical stature for defensive prominence. Mo’unga is graduating from being an exceptionally good provincial player to one of international stature. Mehrtens gets this one.

Five to the 95s, one to the 22s.

(Photo by Dave Rowland/Getty Images)

Aaron Smith vs Graeme Bachop

Bachop played in two World Cups, in 1991 and 1995, and was a member of the All Blacks from 1987 until 1995, but Aaron Smith will be a popular choice for this. It’s 5-2 for the 95s.

Ardie Savea vs Zinzan Brooke

For those who did not see a lot of Brooke in action, the vote will go to Savea, but those who saw Zinzan in his prime will find this an easy choice. He was a multitalented player who is fondly remembered for his prodigious drop goal in the 1995 RWC. It’s 6-2 for the 95s.

Mike Brewer vs Scott Barrett

Some of the stats online are hard to believe. Brewer was not 195 centimetres, surely? These are two comparable players who will never be involved in controversial incidents and are quite orthodox on the field. It’s a tough one, but Brewer gets it by a whisker, and it’s 7-2 for the 95s.

Dalton Papalii vs Josh Kronfeld

It’s Kronfeld by a wide margin. Papalii’s time will come. It’s 8-2 for the 95s.

Brodie Retallick vs Ian Jones

Wow, good luck with this one! They’re two of the greats of New Zealand rugby. Both formed wonderful partnerships with their fellow locks – Retallick with Sam Whitelock, Jones with Robin Brooke. They’re supreme athletes with considerable try-scoring abilities. Retallick has been compared to Colin Meads, so that gives him the accolades, but only just. It’s 8-3 for the 95s.

Sam Whitelock vs Robin Brooke

As with Retallick and Jones, ditto for these two. So it’s hard to choose, but Whitelock’s record speaks for itself. Sam by a length, and it’s 8-4 for the 95s.

Ethan de Groot vs Olo Brown

Brown wins this handsomely. He’s acknowledged as being one of the All Blacks’ best-ever props. De Groot may one day be considered the same. It’s 9-4 to the 95s.

Tyrel Lomax vs Craig Dowd

Dowd by the length of the straight! He’s one of the greats of Auckland and New Zealand rugby. It’s 10-4.

Codie Taylor vs Sean Fitzpatrick

Fitzy, Fitzy, Fitzy! There are no doubts here, it must be All Blacks icon Fitzpatrick, and it’s 11-4 for the 1995 All Blacks.

So maybe Zinzan Brooke had a point?

The Crowd Says:

2022-12-09T10:15:19+00:00

fiwiboy7042

Roar Rookie


Those missed touches are deliberate! You cannot see that??

2022-12-09T10:14:34+00:00

fiwiboy7042

Roar Rookie


Put it to the test! :thumbup:

2022-12-09T01:55:16+00:00

Phantom

Roar Rookie


No one with any nouce would say that mounga could our run BB

2022-12-06T23:33:57+00:00

Colin Fenwick

Roar Rookie


Well I have only watched the 95 final once (drunk, upstairs at the Cook in Dunedin) so I'm in no place to comment on whether the All Blacks were 'arrogant'. My only 2 memories are Ian Jones winning plenty of lineout ball and Mehrtens missing kickable shots at goal. The planets did seem to align for the hosts though, which did include the kiwi team being a little bit more than under the weather. I guess that's why winning the series in South Africa the following year was so important for them.

2022-12-06T05:53:37+00:00

sheek

Roar Guru


Colin Fenwick, You do wonder sometimes if things are preordained. All the stars lined up for the Springboks in 1995, all the little things that went right of them, & wrong for others, either intentionally or otherwise. The ABs didn't help their cause with an arrogant attitude of "we're not going to change our gameplan for anyone". History should have warned them that the Boks aren't 'anyone', & would have required a more sophisticated gameplan to overcome. The Boks probably tackle better than anyone else, & again this is historical. From the dawn of test rugby, they learnt to use offensive tackling as an weapon to secure possession. They do it better than most. If I could think of the two players involved, I would mention the brutal tackle in the 1st test of 1970, which went a long way to eventually deciding the series for the Boks.

2022-12-06T03:19:21+00:00

Colin Fenwick

Roar Rookie


By all accounts it does seem the big Moroccan scored that try, in a match that I recall being delayed due to heavy rain? Regardless, it appears Mr Luyt was impressed with the referee's decision for that match.

2022-12-06T03:04:50+00:00

Colin Fenwick

Roar Rookie


While you are correct, KiwiHaydn did initially state the following caveat; "Maybe under similar training conditions, diets, weights programs etc, but based on what was available at the time, the current crop would wipe the floor with the 1995 team."

2022-11-29T11:04:06+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


Yeah those missed touch finders made zero difference eh ? Missed touch findets ate a constant issue with Mounga. Bbfasyet thsn nounga hands down. Faster between the ears too

2022-11-29T09:09:51+00:00

fiwiboy7042

Roar Rookie


pretty sure you got that order reversed, Jacko! :happy:

2022-11-28T23:03:02+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


BB IS faster and Mounga can be eratic.

2022-11-28T22:53:22+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


I dont remember Dan needing everyone else to play according to his requirements. Either Mounga is the teams onfield general or he isnt. So far he isnt. I also arnt a person who says you must form combinations and stick with them. Sometimes, like the Aus team v Wales, things go well no matter how often you play with certain other players. Changing the team has been done since I can remember.

2022-11-28T22:50:28+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


Spot on Phantom.

2022-11-28T20:36:56+00:00

Nick

Roar Rookie


Fitzy by a country mile to either of them.

2022-11-28T20:35:46+00:00

Nick

Roar Rookie


Eales is the best 2nd rower ever. Disclaimer I'm a Kiwi.

2022-11-28T20:31:53+00:00

Nick

Roar Rookie


Not sure you can make them taller... :silly:

2022-11-28T20:29:12+00:00

Nick

Roar Rookie


BB has been average to poor this season.

2022-11-28T20:27:59+00:00

Nick

Roar Rookie


You take MR with a grain of salt but personally I thought his points about continuity of players around him were spot on. I also thought the chopping & changing if him & BB did/does neither of them any good. It's time to pick your horse and run with it. Probably to late anyways....

2022-11-26T04:04:31+00:00

Wozza

Roar Rookie


I reckon the 87 - 88 team would have dusted the current crop as well. Ardie over Buck? Don't think so

2022-11-25T09:10:32+00:00

fiwiboy7042

Roar Rookie


Mounga looks like he is faster. And BB can be erratic.

2022-11-25T09:02:22+00:00

Phantom

Roar Rookie


Bb is hands down faster and a better tackler to boot.

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