'Better than any coach': Ex-England skipper reveals Eddie's main talent which will 'shake up' Wallabies

By Christy Doran / Editor

Chris Robshaw – England’s captain at the 2015 World Cup – believes it is a “shame” Eddie Jones is no longer coaching his former nation and says their loss is Australia’s gain.

The former back-rower, who was infamously called a “six-and-a-half” by Jones in a Daily Mail column during England’s failed 2015 campaign, spoke glowingly of the incoming Wallabies coach on Wednesday night.

“You’ve got yourself a very good coach, who can definitely come in and shake things up, and also fix things quite quickly,” Robshaw told reporters via zoom in an interview arranged by Sage.

“From an English point of view, I think it is a little bit of a shame because you look at what he’s done in World Cups.”

Eddie Jones (R) congratulates the England back row forward Chris Robshaw, (L), Billy Vunipola and James Haskell after wrapping up the 2016 series over the Wallabies in Melbourne. Photo: David Rogers/Getty Images

Jones, who was axed by the Rugby Football Union following seven years in charge of England, was sensationally announced as Wallabies coach on Monday after Dave Rennie was sacked less than nine months out from the Rugby World Cup.

Rugby Australia made the decision to call time on Rennie heading into his third and final year in charge of the Wallabies in part because of Jones’ excellent World Cup history.

Robshaw is one of the best-equipped people to comment on Jones’ pedigree after being coached by the Australian for three years.

Fascinatingly, the openside flanker was mocked during the 2015 World Cup when Jones said he was a “six-and-a-half at best”.

Jones added that Robshaw was an “outstanding club player but at international level he just doesn’t have a point of difference”.

Eddie Jones shakes hands with Chris Robshaw. (Photo by David Rogers – RFU/The RFU Collection via Getty Imagesges)

Robshaw believed Jones’ opinion would lead to his international playing days come to an end. But, as he quickly discovered, it couldn’t be further from the truth.

“As soon as he got announced, I was thinking, ‘OK, that’s kind of me done,’” said Robshaw, who went on to start at blindside flanker 23 times under Jones for England.

“But very early on we had a very open conversation behind closed doors and he said, ‘look, if you can go away and work on bits of your game, there’ll be a place for you in my side, not as captain but as important to me.’”

Robshaw, who won his first cap in 2009 under Martin Johnson and played the last of his 66 matches in 2018, said Jones was the type of coach Australia needed and the Wallabies would represent a tougher proposition in a potential quarter-final matchup against England under him than a Dave Rennie-coached side.

“From where they currently are, yes,” he said. “From where they are currently are and the position they were in over here in the northern hemisphere in the last couple of months.

“I think he will be able to get them up to shape or, if nothing else, definitely improve them quickly.”

Robshaw also provided some unique insights into some of the training methods used by Jones in the search of perfection.

“Eddie was always looking for his perfect remedy in terms of training methods,” he said.

“We would go into what we call our Autumn series, we’re training one way, then in the Six Nations we’d train a completely different way, and in the summer we’d train a completely different way to that.

“There were definitely tests along the way. I remember in our first camp where we had six o’clock walkthroughs but when we got there, there were no coaches. But I’m sure there were cameras hidden around and set-up to monitor, what’s the mindset of these guys? Are they going to be professional and get straight on with it or are they just going to wait for 10 minutes, muck around kick a ball and go home or go back to their bedrooms?

“It’s those type of things where he’s always giving you that bit of freedom and seeing, what level of these guys are at, and how far can I push them to get better?”

Some ideas, however, fell flat.

“There were definitely some things which I’m glad didn’t stick around like 5:30 wrestling,” Robshaw said. “[They] were in and out, which was pretty good it never came back, but he will definitely shake things up there.

“Australian rugby needs something at the moment, if we’re honest, they’re not in their best place. They had a tough tour over here in our autumn series, so if there’s a man who can fix things quite quickly, I think it is Eddie.”

Chris Robshaw said Eddie Jones’ man management stood out from other coaches. Photo: Supplied

Some critics of Jones point to the high turnover of assistants as well as the demanding environment he oversees.

But Robshaw believes it was the Australian mentor’s man management skills that set him apart from other coaches. “It’s Eddie’s mentality. He was better than any coach I have worked in terms of his man management,” Robshaw said.

“It’s the little things like his ability to get the best out of people and treat everyone differently from going into the breakfast room and acknowledging every single person in the room.

“But also there’ll be some people like myself, which would be a quiet word and just having a conversation to a James Haskell where they’re taking the mickey out of each other all day and getting the best out of him like that…

“There’ll be some younger guys who he’ll test and put under stress to see if they’re up to international rugby because, as you know in the heat of the moment in those top flight games, it’s tough.

“There are other guys like someone like a Joe Marler, who was struggling massively with his mental health and stuff like that, and he was very honest. Eddie said, ‘Go away and do whatever you need to do, but when you’re ready, as long as you’re playing well, we can facilitate and see if there’s a position for you back in his side, no grudges will be held.’

“And even when there has been issues or indiscretions and stuff, people accept their punishment and he doesn’t hold a grudge, you do your punishment and then you get back on the pitch, it’s that type of mentality.”

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The Crowd Says:

2023-01-20T21:19:48+00:00

Sinckler for the rules

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2023-01-20T01:14:41+00:00

Davo

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What I do enjoy about Dave Rennie’s sacking is the fact it’s riling up the Kiwis. Rennie was an Ardern spy.

2023-01-19T23:52:22+00:00

bottom feeder

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Cheika, Jones and Jake White. All good for 2 years .

2023-01-19T21:28:41+00:00

Wizz

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He may well have been bought into rebuild and blood which he did and of course under those circumstances you aren't going to win 60 % of matches .I think it was always planned to find more illustrious captain prior to world cup if possible than the Messiah became available.Rennie is actually the guy IZ rugby needed long term quiet ,humble introspective polite.The way we want our teams to play.

2023-01-19T21:22:23+00:00

Wizz

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Funny thing we are in complete agreement..I'm no fan of Eddie DR had a plan and showed we weren't far off

2023-01-19T21:19:58+00:00

Full Credit to the Boys

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I get you and agree. The other aspect is that I'm sure Rennie would have known he was being white-anted by the administration. That turned out to be correct. Then when Eddie was sacked it went into full swing.

2023-01-19T21:14:25+00:00

Full Credit to the Boys

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My post is regards the coverage of Eddie Jones and his recent record with England. My feeling is that the Wallabies would have flourished at the WC with Kerevi, Quade, Bell, Koribeti, possibly Latu and some locks back. I think it could have been a surprise especially with the easy half of the draw. We shall never know.

2023-01-19T21:14:09+00:00

Wizz

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What my point was he says Eddie can turn around wallabies but did he watch the games on tour we got beat one point by France and could have drawn Ireland .He wants too talk up Eddie good on him but don't comment on our performances when he clearly did not watch every game on tour.

2023-01-19T21:07:32+00:00

Wizz

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Talking about the wallabies ,England were awful agreed

2023-01-19T20:34:18+00:00

Full Credit to the Boys

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You are completely wrong and I wonder if YOU have acted the games recently. They were lacklustre and the attack was awful. HENCE THE BOOING AT TWICKENHAM. Up until the World Cup, which I also wanted religiously, they were terrific. They were the games Robson was part of. so he might be entirely right from his experience.

2023-01-19T19:11:04+00:00

JD Kiwi

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What are you talking about Doc? I didn't even mention Rennie.

2023-01-19T18:49:46+00:00

Wizz

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Two players that stuffed DR was Swain and LSL we have now moved on from them and lesson learned.

2023-01-19T18:47:25+00:00

Wizz

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Who cares what he said I live in Thailand most of the girls are guys now and recently was in Brazil and noticed the same the world's becoming more effeminate and for what reason I don't know and it don't bother me either way but I should be able to quote the book of life condemning it.I wouldn't cause I'm not a fan of that either

2023-01-19T18:39:41+00:00

Chivas

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There are direct comments from players not rumours. I am not arguing the toss about whether there are players who said good things about him versus players who said bad things. I was merely responding to the point that there are no direct critical comments of him from players. There are and they are not that hard to find… so whatever argument you think I am msking that you think doesn’t hold water is merely in your own head, as I never gave voice to any argument ppsitive or negative based on these comments, but to deny their existence or say they are just rumoyrs is simply not true.

2023-01-19T18:39:32+00:00

Wizz

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Pretty sure Mr Robshaw we know who Eddie is .Got a feeling you did watch any matches just the BBC results.

2023-01-19T18:28:51+00:00

Chivas

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Not disagreeing. I was merely responding to your comment saying you hadn’t heard of any players criticising him and thst you we re genuinely intereseted in who those might be. So when you are provided examples, you can’t then shoot the messenger by suggesting they (me) are arguiing against EJ’s appointment. I am not. I was simply responding to your post. To use my post this way is to misconstrue mine. FYzi I think the way EJ has been parachuted in and DR kicked to the curb is pretty ordinary to say the least. And comparing it to England letting go of Jones is not the same in my view as EJ had already run out of ideas to progress the team. Add to that plenty of Australians are turned off by this sort of thing, I don’t really see putting in someone like EJ and his lmildly obnoxious approach is the exciting mstketing tool that id going to have all the journos and sporting public suddenly turning on their tvs ton follow it. That is just wishful thinking in my opinion. I am not sure he is even going to have the respect of the players coming in like he has, but we will see. Another interesting point is with everyone saying how Wisey was such great buds with EJ, why did he resign? I am disappinteed for DR and not convinced like PeterK and others that fast Eddie is what Wallaby or Australian rugby needs, in the sane way Tony Abbot wasnt what Australia needed.

2023-01-19T14:00:51+00:00

Cannonball

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I just found a small number and plenty of rumours without names. About as many that loved him…. This argument doesn’t hold water. We all have gripes when we don’t get what we want. These fellas aren’t paid peanuts after all… As with all leadership styles, some will love him, some hate him, but the results don’t lie!

2023-01-19T13:52:28+00:00

Cannonball

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I’ll take 4 good years out of 5

2023-01-19T12:56:12+00:00

Rugger

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I appreciate your response Morsie and apologise for lumping you in with some of the fanatics you find on the Roar regarding Folau. EJ is very tough on his players and burnout is inevitable. I agree 5 years is very risky, a 3 + 2 would be more comforting. I guess I can see where RA is coming from making this bold and ruthless move. That is if Rennie took the Wallabies to the World Cup and they fail to impress, they are running out of credibility to attract the type of coach we’ll need for a run into 2027 (one with test experience and reasonable success anyway).

2023-01-19T12:38:51+00:00

Mo

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The cricketer Rodney Hogg said it well in answer to a journo. Mate players like me don’t have testimonials we get dropped.

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