All signs point to Ross Lyon's Saints going 5-0

By Christian Montegan / Roar Pro

Heading into the season, there were uncertainties around both Collingwood and St Kilda regarding how they would perform.



There were early questions raised around Ross Lyon and whether he would be capable of replicating his impressive coaching mastery from his first stint at the club.



Now, after four wins and an undefeated start to 2023, a lot more people are clearer about their opinions about them, as the ‘dark horse’ tag continues to simmer in conversation and with very good reason. 


The Pies well and truly exceeded expectations last season thanks vastly to the incredible work of Craig McRae and his ability to instil an identity and blueprint consisting of a fast and attacking brand of footy with pressure applied all over the field.



Doubts crept in about whether they could carry that form into the new season with higher standards set, and they proved to be up to the task in the first few rounds where they played some scintillating footy, so well in fact, that it suddenly moved them up to premiership favourites.

Bobby Hill of the Magpies celebrates a goal. (Photo by Dylan Burns/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

How a week can turn the opinions and perceptions of a team, though. The 33-point loss suffered against the Lions at the Gabba last round somewhat burst Collingwood’s perfect bubble of invincibility. Chris Fagan’s men were able to exploit some weaknesses in the Pies’ structure by picking out pockets of space as a result of gaining more territory and dominating the midfield and stoppages.

Those stoppage wins were ultimately down to Collingwood’s current crisis they find themselves in as they are forced to make do without their ruckmen Darcy Cameron and Mason Cox for a number of weeks due to injury, allowing Lions ruckman Oscar McInerney the freedom to dominate, getting to 70 contests and winning 43 hit-outs.

One loss and one bad performance will not be the defining moment for them. They will bounce back throughout the rest of the campaign. As I expressed my view before Round 1, Collingwood will prove that they are not a one-hit-wonder.

However, that inevitable bounce back will have to wait at least another week.

Under Lyon, the Saints’ impressive discovery of their defensive identity so early in the season is a credit to both the coaching staff and the playing group.

After the opening four rounds, they’ve conceded an average of 56.75 points per game and achieved long streaks of shutting out opponents such as not conceding in 99 minutes of actual game time combining the first two rounds and conceding their first major against the Bombers with under five minutes remaining in the first quarter. The likes of Douglas Howard and Josh Battle commanding the defensive 50 and denying opposition to play fast footy has been key.

For some time now we have been accustomed to this new modern era of football where most teams are trying to play with high intensity and quick ball movement, which is why the Pies are such a threat to the competition. 


Could it be, though, that they haven’t come up against a team so well defensively drilled than the Saints so far under McRae’s reign?

St Kilda has averaged 46 more disposals and 28 more marks than their upcoming opponents, pointing towards having more control over the game and being aware of taking the sting out of things when required. On the contrary, the Pies have faced tougher opposition so far and their fast transitional game style involves more handballs.

In saying that, the Saints are far from boring and rely heavily on their defence to create turnovers and counter quick transitional plays from half-back going forward which has helped them rack up some big scores this season. No doubt they have the pieces to make it a real contest on Sunday, as the average tackling numbers also provide an interesting dynamic, with the Pies only averaging 1.5 more tackles than the Saints, pointing at the likelihood of St Kilda being able to put up a physical battle spearheaded by the likes of Brad Crouch and Sebastian Ross.

(Photo by Darrian Traynor/Getty Images)

What’s also worth highlighting is the impressive work rate that understandably goes unnoticed during play. The top two ranked players in the AFL for distance covered in 2023 are two Saints players, Ryan Byrnes and Jack Sinclair which is no surprise considering how well the team hunts in packs and applies incredible amounts of pressure.

Going back to the ruck crisis at Collingwood, McRae admitted that it’s an unfortunate situation that his side must learn to deal with moving forward.

“We’ve got what we’ve got and we just have to work through it… I don’t think there’s a magic solution to it. We’re going to have to work through it and get better at what we do,” he said.

Will there be enough time this week to rectify their obvious flaw by the time Sunday rolls around?



Add in the neutral ground scenario due to Gather Round at Adelaide Oval, and a real chance beckons for Ross Lyon and the Saints. 



Can they improve their record to 5-0? Don’t be surprised if they do.

The Crowd Says:

2023-04-16T04:23:33+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


You haven’t added the two boys just coming back from bereavement and still not season-ready. More than half of that Richmond list was “test” and they actually played. West Perth 34.13 to West Coast 7.6 You need to pay attention.

2023-04-16T03:58:10+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


According the the offical AFL injury list its: Richmond: 14 WC: 11 VFL scores: Carlton 9.14 – 68 v. Richmond 8.11 – 59 Where do you get 28 goals from?

2023-04-16T03:44:07+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


What are your numbers?

2023-04-16T03:43:00+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


13/15 and 4? Very wrong on both counts … as usual

2023-04-16T03:36:44+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


Actually, it was 28 goal loss, not 20.

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2023-04-16T02:25:55+00:00

Christian Montegan

Roar Pro


A loss against the Pies today shouldn’t lead to cause for concern though. No shame in losing to arguably the best side in the comp so far when fully healthy and the Saints approach won’t change much regardless of the result today I would think

2023-04-16T02:19:34+00:00

Ace

Roar Rookie


Well Christian Steele is no stranger to the game plan having played a couple before injury and to have another mobile marking forward like Membrey would have to be a plus. But a loss against the Pies may make changes easier A win then some will have to make through the VFL I imagine

2023-04-16T02:16:32+00:00

Gary

Roar Rookie


I agree. But, i had a bad tipping round last week so i need to over think it to get back on track :silly:

2023-04-16T02:08:52+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


What the heck are you on about?

2023-04-16T01:52:45+00:00

Lapunman

Roar Rookie


Think you’ll find his stats are better than those of Tom Hawkins at the same age and we all know how good a player he become

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2023-04-16T01:48:06+00:00

Christian Montegan

Roar Pro


That last point is valid, but I think considering they lost last week they’ll be focused enough

2023-04-16T01:23:42+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


King over exaggerator at it again

2023-04-16T01:12:11+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


Jeremy Cameron 15 goals today in the other game? WC with 13/15 out injured (poor Richmond with their 4) and their seconds lost by 20 goals yesterday.

2023-04-16T00:46:10+00:00

me too

Roar Rookie


Steele played the first two games - very much perfectly suited. membrey should fit into the role camaniti is playing - the issue is why change whilst cami is doing his job and hinder his development. hence membrey will come back via sandy.he could take cordy's position but not the second ruck role. king - too good not to bring in when fit but i worry we become too focussed on him. as for billings, coffield, jones, mackenzie and webster - will need to earn back their places via sandy unless more injuries or resting players.

2023-04-16T00:38:28+00:00

Gary

Roar Rookie


On the afl fixtures site, Collingwood is $1.40 and Saints $2.90. Surprised to see this big a disparity, but i don't normally look at odds that closely. Hard game to tip this one. I also wonder if Collingwood might have one eye on Tuesday week for the AFL's marquee Collingwood v Essendon day.

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2023-04-16T00:14:57+00:00

Christian Montegan

Roar Pro


It will be interesting to see how the injured players fit into Lyon’s system such as Membrey and Steele. Quality players no doubt but will they need to adapt slightly?

2023-04-15T23:08:07+00:00

Fraser Gehrig's Mullet

Roar Rookie


In the space of 12 hours this article is going to age like fine wine or fine milk! The saints hot start to the year has been built off effort and elite fitness and despite a serious injury crisis. Seeing the difference from last year in consistent effort has been very pleasing (to borrow from Alan Richardson). Interesting to see how the RTB defensive system holds up against the best ball movement and a very solid defensive structure. Hope the sainters get up today but could be coming for the reality check they need

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