Steve Hansen claims 'NRL's a better game to watch' than 'predictable' Super Rugby, backs RA plans to 'jazz it up'

By Tony Harper / Editor

World Cup-winning All Blacks coach Steve Hansen has expressed grave concerns over the state of Super Rugby and says the NRL is a better product to watch, while backing innovations led by Rugby Australia to improve the experience.

“I look at NRL and New South Wales Racing and the guy in charge there, Peter V’landys, who has been really instrumental in making both these sports very popular. And his formula’s very simple. It’s all about what do the fans want, what do the participants want and give it to them,” Hansen told NZ radio station Newstalk ZB .

“Both rugby unions need to sit down and really find out what it is the fans want and how we’re going to get them to engage in it and then deliver on that.

“If we’re being bone dead honest with ourselves it is at the moment. It [NRL] is a better game to watch on TV than rugby is, because it’s not stop-start. They apply a lot of common sense to how they adjudicate things and make sure the game keeps some form of flow to it. Our game over the last five years has got slower and slower and slower. But that’s because they’ve gone out and listened to what the fans want and then applied common sense to it.”

Hansen believes the XV-player game is at a crossroads – an example being just 12,000 fans attending Eden Park for the Blues win over the Waratahs in last week’s quarterfinal. Twice as many watched the NRL Warriors beat the Dolphins in Auckland recently.

“I don’t know about falling out [of love] with the game but I think they’re falling out with a few things that are happening within the game, that’s frustrating people. It can be hard to watch at times,” Hansen said.

“There’s no dispute that Super Rugby has to change. It’s pretty predictable and still stuck where it was four or five years ago. You go through the quarter-finals and it wasn’t that exciting as you knew who was going to win. Some of the ideas that have been floated by New Zealand Rugby and Australia are quite good ones, so let’s hope people are more flexible enough and more open enough to hear those ideas and maybe put them in place.

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“I haven’t stopped to think about where it’s going to be in 20 years, I’m more worried about where it’s going to be in five … I think we’re at the crossroads. Unless we make some strong changes and start listening to the people that want to come along and watch it then it will just be the participants playing it.”

Hansen said the number of red cards in rugby was hurting the product.

“Rugby’s got some interesting things happening in it like red cards, TMOs, the stop-start nature of the game, the lack of cohesion between the Southern and the Northern hemispheres. All those things create a product that’s not consistent and it does mean people get frustrated with it,” he said.

“I think the desire’s there and just don’t think they know how they’re going to do it. We’re at a stage where we need to be bold and brave and attempt to do something.

“The red card is at the bottom of the cliff. We’re not fixing the problem. Yes there is a problem that people are getting head injuries and we need to stop that. Red cards were introduced to stop foul play back in the day when it was people kicking someone or punching someone or swinging an arm – well you don’t get those in the game any more, or very few.

“What we’re getting now is getting a lot of head knocks, most of which are probably unintentional or poor technique.

“So rather than giving them a red card, let’s find a system that says right we recognised that happened. We don’t want to muck the game up. We know it’s unintentional. We put it on report or a yellow card or something. And then we can go if it’s a technical probably you have then you can go and fix it here’s how we’re going to do it.

“We want young kids to come in and play the game, young boys and young girls. Mums and dads won’t be keen if kids are going to get knocked around too much. So how do we make it safer? Rather than just dishing out red cards what are we going to do? And we need to do it reasonably quickly. Need to apply common sense and look at the areas that need to be touched up.”

Hansen also appeared on a Stuff’s Newsable podcast, where he gave clear backing for the Rugby Australia chairman Hamish McLennan’s idea for a draft to allow players to play in rival Super nations.

“There’s some good ideas coming ut of Australia about how to jazz it up a bit,” Hansen said.

“Hopefully we’re open and flexible enough in our thinking to try that. The idea of having a draft and the idea of being able to interchange players … shouldn’t hold any fears with out New Zealand players being able to play for the All Blacks.”

The Crowd Says:

2023-06-19T10:19:29+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


Wouldn't surprise if the debt has gone up. I was referencing the figures from the latest report. They've got a further 20m they can draw down whenever they want, very possible they have drawn it straight after the report has been published so they can look a bit better and not have to tell us about it for 12 months.

2023-06-19T07:23:33+00:00

jgeres

Roar Rookie


I agree, predictable and boring. Super rugby needs to take a look at the NHL in North America (ice hockey). It doesn't matter what country you are from, you go into the draft, wooden spoon holder team gets to pick first. If we are in the 'professional era' then SR needs to move away from club loyalty to allow for a more competitive league.

2023-06-19T06:35:07+00:00

Khun Phil

Roar Rookie


If it was to work(I am not a fan,by the way),there would have to be a quota on imports,which would still mean the bulk of any side would still be locals.

2023-06-19T05:42:46+00:00

ScouseinOz

Roar Rookie


??

2023-06-18T23:17:28+00:00

Muzzo

Roar Rookie


Well seeing you utter ignorance on the issue, I assume you couldn't do that, as in burying your head in the sand, re having no head!!

2023-06-18T15:26:34+00:00

ScouseinOz

Roar Rookie


Alot of that is probably fair, but the NRL does have the grassroots development - even if it technically takes place under the umbrella of the NSWRL or QRL, who they pretty much fund and oversee via the clubs. It's not really like the NFL or Premier League. The other issue that some rugby fans don't see is that rugby league has been professional for 100 years. The game is essentially what a professional rugby evolution looks like over time - fewer players, no line outs, no mauls, 1 point drop goal, retreating defensive line etc. These things cant happen in rugby now because its not rugby league. Rugby Union has to balance professional pressures with the 100 year old traditional amateur game that is rugby union. Doing that like you said with 8 or so stakeholders that want and like different aspects of the game is really difficult.

2023-06-18T14:49:16+00:00

ScouseinOz

Roar Rookie


Pass that fact on to Auckland Blues and Moana Pacifika. Actually, just keep burying your head in the sand

2023-06-18T09:48:22+00:00

Muzzo

Roar Rookie


Yep Simon the Murdoch NewsCorp media gutter trash!!

2023-06-18T09:46:51+00:00

Muzzo

Roar Rookie


I do Otago!!! I do.

2023-06-18T09:41:18+00:00

Otago Man

Roar Rookie


Lol you might remember Muzzo.

2023-06-18T09:34:22+00:00

Muzzo

Roar Rookie


That was SOOOOO long ago, Bro !!!

2023-06-18T09:33:16+00:00

Muzzo

Roar Rookie


And nowhere near as prominent in Auckland as what rugby is. Fact.

2023-06-18T09:31:27+00:00

Muzzo

Roar Rookie


So tell me, where did League originally evolve from????? In regards to scrums, league has never had the credibility of what is known as scrummaging as what rugby has. If anything about your decision in the 90's, well mid 90's to be a little more precise, that decision was made by the scum , Rupert Murdoch & his, what he called ' Super League, that IMO stuffed the game, as it was, up. So try again please !!!

2023-06-18T02:09:30+00:00

Phantom

Roar Rookie


I prefer to see a real contest in all phases. If the refs went penalty hinting t scrums the feed would be pinged every time. Even lineout throws are strainer than scrum feeds.

2023-06-18T00:03:14+00:00

liquorbox_

Roar Rookie


"It [NRL] is a better game to watch on TV than rugby is, because it’s not stop-start". What game is he watching, unless things have changed in the last15 years since I last watched a league game doesn't League essentially stop every time someone is tackled? The contest for the ball stops about 600 times a game.

2023-06-18T00:01:18+00:00

CW Moss

Roar Rookie


Well NRL has the state of origin, we have the bledisloe. If the WBs were competitive evens. Super rugby is terminal vs NRL way way ahead The kiwis have their provincial comp. We have zip. Sir Steve is right.

2023-06-17T23:27:39+00:00

CT

Roar Rookie


Exactly. People do like to complain though. Gets out their frustrations and show us their intellectual superiority.

2023-06-17T23:23:10+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


Whats dying about it? I just watched 4 1/4 finals last week and saw some fantastic close games of rugby then watched the two semi finals and watched an NZ team disintergrate plus a very close one yet you want to claim that because its an NZ team that will win the comp its a fail. From what I see its a success and achieves exactly what its designed to do. I bet if Aus teams were winning you would not want changes.

2023-06-17T23:19:53+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


Its only been 115 years that the NRL has been running.

2023-06-17T23:11:17+00:00

OtakiCraig

Roar Rookie


Eh? Rugby league? Watching this version of league/union is frustrating enough then to watch the original crash bash stop start rugby? God no! And I payed both, I enjoyed playing league when I wasn’t fit (stop start) but the nirvana of rugby is still the non stop version that I never attained, because I was never fit enough, never skilled enough and played in teams that were never coordinated enough to play the version of rugby that still plays in my head, the unattainable? But still achievable some day but … never on the league field

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