NRL round 25 midweek talking points: The weaker clubs get picked off, but a bye can save the day

By AJ Mithen / Expert

Time is running out for teams with premiership designs to get themselves into the best position for a deep postseason run, but for several clubs the season is done. Here come your NRL midweek talking points.

Will the bye week save some seasons?

As the crush for finals and top four places continues it’s interesting to see who’s got the bye and guaranteed two points for the end of the year.

This week it’s Brisbane’s turn for a rest and the two points in the bank will ensure they stay top two or even go top if Penrith stumble against the Titans, which seems highly unlikely.

The next bye week belongs to South Sydney, who sit eighth on 28 points with games against the Knights and Roosters. The bunnies have been really wobbly in the last few weeks but will only really need to win one of those to be secure in the top half.

Round 27’s bye week is Parramatta’s, who are 10th on 26 points. If the Eels can’t beat the Roosters this week they’re pretty much done, but if they get past and other results fall their way, the free two points might actually vault them into the eight.

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There’s lots to happen between now and there, but two points for the bye is probably something the NRL could look at going into 2024. Each team has 6 points from games they never played which obscures and oversells how they’ve actually been going.

See ya, wouldn’t wanna be ya

We can officially bid farewell to the finals chances of the Gold Coast and Dolphins and our hands hover over the plug keeping Manly and the Roosters’ chances alive, with both needing to win out and win big while also getting lucky results around the grounds.

Parramatta are also in genuine finals peril, with games against the Roosters then Penrith with the aforementioned bye in the final round.

Newcastle are on song but still not guaranteed a spot, with tough outings against South Sydney and Cronulla in the next fortnight.

The most gettable team in the eight is Canberra, who simply must bounce back from a horrific outing in Melbourne and beat Canterbury this week or they’re all but done – however, 9th placed North Queensland have a brutal finish to the season with Cronulla, the Dolphins then Penrith and that might help the Raiders die across the line into eighth.

It’s probably worth mentioning Canterbury have also been formally eliminated from finals calculations, for those wondering.

Good games this week

Hopefully we get some closer efforts this week after a pretty big bludger last round, with an average win of 25.5 points.

We’re away Thursday to Townsville for the Cowboys and the Sharks, who seem to have a new sense of self after a couple of good wins. For North Queensland it’s simple – they have to win.

Friday’s early game has Manly across the ditch for the Warriors, who did all they needed to beat the Tigers and pretty much wrap a top four spot. Manly need the win or it’s ‘officially’ season over, while New Zealand have shown they can be somewhat wobbly at home this year in patches.

Primetime Friday is Parramatta and the Roosters, with the loser basically done and finished. Normally this would be box office viewing but who knows what we’re in for this week.

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Saturday’s triple header starts at Commbank Stadium and the Tigers hosting the Dolphins, a game both clubs would usually fancy their chances to win, but the Dolphins are absolutely smashed with injury.

Later in the afternoon Penrith head to Robina in a game they don’t really need to win, but with the Titans’ season over, they probably still will.

Saturday night is St George Illawarra and the Storm in Wollongong and the less said about that the better.

Sunday has two games with big finals bearings – the flying Newcastle hosts South Sydney and the loser will either drop out of finals altogether, or miss out on a chance of a home match in week one.

The round ends with a squib when the Bulldogs head to Canberra. The Raiders need at least one win from their last three to play finals but they’ve been pathetic for the last few weeks. Canterbury have been all over the joint. Their best has been exciting, vibrant play, but it’s too often offset by diabolical defence and poor efforts. Not many will be setting the recorder for this one.

Week 25 random observations

What’s got you talking ahead of round 25, Roarers?

The Crowd Says:

2023-08-17T22:18:25+00:00

BigGordon

Roar Rookie


You left out the parts about the seriously clunky footy Souths have been playing for weeks, that this is a home game for the Knights and they're playing some pretty good footy at the moment as a team.

2023-08-17T05:38:51+00:00

PGNEWC

Roar Rookie


Hastings out and Best coming back from injury -Ponga panics when its all left up to him - Souths are deservedly favourites.

2023-08-16T22:37:00+00:00

langparker

Roar Rookie


Looks like the cowboys have belatedly twigged that they probably can’t win a comp, or possibly make the eight, with Hiku as one centre. While Taulagi ostensibly comes in for Holmes, surely they have to go with him as their centre partner with Val if they make the playoffs. As much as Hiku brings experience to their backline, his lack of pace kills too many opportunities in attack & can be exploited in defence.

2023-08-16T03:16:57+00:00

Nick

Roar Rookie


I cannot wait for when Redcliffe host the Dragons wearing their Illawarra kit. And we know it's going to happen at some stage.

2023-08-16T03:15:33+00:00

Nick

Roar Rookie


The Sharks v Titans jerseys were daft I remember about 5-6 years ago or so, Newcastle thought it would be a terrific idea to celebrate their annual miners round and wear that ghastly his vis orange kit...against the Wests Tigers, who were wearing their predominantly orange kit.

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2023-08-16T03:10:38+00:00

AJ Mithen

Expert


Unfortunately the moment has passed B Mac... I'll try to one up it next week :laughing:

2023-08-16T02:05:10+00:00

Geoff from Bruce Stadium

Roar Rookie


Well I've done the dreaded NRL predictor - which relies on a perfect 100% success rate of predictions of course - which is just about impossible - and have the winner of the Sharks versus Raiders game in the final round going into the 8 and the loser missing out. And the winner of the Rabbitohs versus Roosters match in the final round could also go into the 8 at the others expense. I've got the Cowboys squeezing in if they get over the Sharks this Thursday, beat the Titans the following week and lose to the Panthers in the final week. If the Sharks beat the Cowboys they are just about assured of the 8 and the Cowboys will miss out. I've got the Rabbitohs missing the 8 if they lose to the Knights this weekend. If they win and beat the Roosters in the final round they make it. The Roosters can make it if they will all of their 3 games. The Knights can finish 5th if they win all of their games. This doing my head in. Think I'll stop now.

2023-08-16T01:13:43+00:00

Andrew01

Roar Rookie


On the topic of jersey clashes last weekend, while it wasn't as bad as the Tians v Sharks, if you can explain why Penrith would wear a pink jersey to the maroon of Manly, i am all ears. What exactly are the official team colours of Penrith? The Cowboys run home not as daunting as it sounds; This week is probably the tough game with the Sharks though the last time the Sharks won outside NSW 9before that neutral game v Souths in Perth) was Rd 18 last year. There away wins this year (in order): Parra in rd 2. Then Dragons, Dogs, Manly, Tigers and Souths in Perth. Hardly a murders row. They have recently been beaten by 32 points and 44 points respectably when travelling to Auckland and Melbourne. Then they have the Dolphins which should be a win. Then the Panthers who, based on past years, could rest a chunk of their stars for the last game.

2023-08-16T01:04:29+00:00

Busty McCracken

Roar Rookie


And a good morning to you too sir.

2023-08-16T00:05:55+00:00

astro

Roar Rookie


Manly have 7 of their first choice team out injured...Think its very fair to say they're done! Ha!

2023-08-15T23:02:15+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Ok, thanks. I thought it was more grim than that…

2023-08-15T22:58:08+00:00

Horses for Courses

Roar Rookie


If the Roosters win their final three games (Eels, Tigers, Souths) and the Souths lose to the Knights this weekend they are in. Not that big of a stretch on any of that.

2023-08-15T22:49:30+00:00

Dumbo

Roar Rookie


I think the comment was going to be that anyone who spells "witty" as "whitty" doesn't deserve to even read The Roar, let alone contribute to it. (I know, I'm being rude; - but I couldn't resist it...)

2023-08-15T22:48:16+00:00

BigGordon

Roar Rookie


There's probably 4 games worth watching this weekend Cowboys/Sharks - it's not only the result but how each team plays in this one. If either gets belted, it doesn't bode well for the finals Warriors/Sea Eagles - Warriors looked off the pace last week so interesting to see whether they can lift their intensity this week. If not, they're going to struggle in the finals Eels/Roosters - must win for the Roosters, but must win impressively, not fall across the line Knights/Souths - somehow Souths, who have been playing really clunky footy for most of the season, are clear favourites for this one.

2023-08-15T22:39:25+00:00

Busty McCracken

Roar Rookie


Go on mate, let's hear the whitty comment anyway. The world needs more laughs.

2023-08-15T22:21:06+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Surely Manly and Roosters are goneskis? While they’re mathematically a hope aren’t they both relying on a string of other results going their way? The Sharks v Titans jerseys were daft I don’t know that there’s heaps of games to get excited about this weekend either Parra v Roosters at this time of the year should be a cracker but it ain’t Cows v Sharks on Thursday and Knights v Bunnies on Sunday are probably the only ‘must see’ games for neutrals Dogs middle has been lightweight and wafer thing all year. No TPJ next year doesn’t help. Hopefully we can get the Taukieaho deal done. Maybe consider an SOS to Paul Vaughan. Outside of that, no idea who the Dogs can go to

2023-08-15T21:43:37+00:00

Horizon

Roar Rookie


Hook was fortunate to have "attacking weapons" like McGuire & woods while he was there.

2023-08-15T21:13:44+00:00

Duncan Smith

Roar Guru


"The active streak of consecutive games with a try scored now falls to St George Illawarra, who have scored a try in their last 85." Full credit to Hook for that brilliant attacking flair that was the trademark of his reign at St George.

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