The Roar's AFL expert tips and predictions Round 23: Whose season is about to end one week early?

By Tim Miller / Editor

It’s officially retirement season in the AFL.

Across the country, the next two weeks are going to see a glut of greats take their final bow, with North Melbourne and Richmond farewelling Jack Riewoldt, Trent Cotchin and Jack Ziebell all together at the MCG in what promises to be an emotional Saturday afternoon.

But the bigger focus might just be the host of teams still fighting for their season, with at least two and in all likelihood three veritable elimination finals taking place this weekend.

It’s almost certainly curtains for the losers of GWS and Essendon as well as Adelaide and Sydney as they fight to keep their finals hopes alive, while St Kilda and Geelong will lock horns knowing the Cats will likewise be cooked without a win, while the Saints might as well be given their chances of taking down Brisbane at the Gabba in Round 24 are slim at best.

In an already remarkable season, this promises to be the wildest, wackiest, and most vital of all. So who will take the chocolates and either keep themselves on track to September, or finish off on the highest of highs?

Tim Miller

Last week: 7

Collingwood, Richmond, Carlton, GWS, Geelong, Sydney, Western Bulldogs, Melbourne, Port Adelaide

I’m counting exactly one game that doesn’t have major finals ramifications this weekend, and given that game is the farewell for three champions of the game, Round 23 is shaping as the most memorable of already the most unforgettable, crazy season of our lives.

Starting on Friday night, every logical part of my brain is screaming that Brisbane should be beating Collingwood: the game is at Marvel Stadium, the Pies are missing Jordan De Goey, Darcy Moore and Nick Daicos, and the Lions have a top-two spot to play for while Collingwood are likely safe on top. But picking against the Pies has been a hazard for two seasons – and I learned that the hard why when I tipped Geelong to beat them last week. I won’t be making that mistake again.

Starting us off Saturday, Richmond should be knocking over North Melbourne in the Cotchin-Riewoldt-Ziebell retirement spectacular – perhaps of more interest is whether the Tigers desperately try to feed Trent Cotchin disposals and Jack Riewoldt goals. At the same time, Carlton have the closest thing to a dead live rubber we’ve got, given they’re just about assured of finals and Gold Coast can’t make it. Still, if anyone can stuff it up from here, it’s the Blues.

We get into the real stuff again at twilight, with GWS hosting Essendon in an August elimination final: the Bombers haven’t been playing well enough to tip them to beat any finals contender at home, never mind on the road. They’re in similar boat to St Kilda in facing an opponent below them on the ladder but heavy underdogs regardless, and while the Saints do have home ground advantage on Geelong, I’ve had them as a certainty for the eight all season long and still can’t see them missing.

The most fascinating game of the ground comes with Adelaide hosting Sydney, and this for me is the golden chance to back a proper upset in a round sure to provide one or two. Sure, the Crows have been formidable at home this year, and a win here combined with their last-round date with West Coast could just about lock them into a finals berth; but the Swans are red-hot at the moment, travel well as a rule, and I can see their varied forward line causing the Crows’ undermanned defence enough to kick a winning score.

On Sunday, I’m praying for the Bulldogs to give me a stress-free weekend and hand West Coast a pummelling; the heart says it won’t be that easy, but the head says the Eagles might be saving up their petrol tickets to try and farewell Shannon Hurn and Luke Shuey with a win next week.

Following up, it’s back to the interesting games: Melbourne become the latest team to test their finals calibre against the 16th-placed Hawthorn, whose form at the moment is certainly worthy of a September spot. Nevertheless, where the Hawks’ midfield obliterated Collingwood and the Bulldogs in the last fortnight, surely they won’t be able to do the same to Max Gawn, Jack Viney, Clayton Oliver and Christian Petracca… right?

And to finish off the round, Port Adelaide have a real danger game, heading west to battle Fremantle. I’ve gone the Power here, but despite their strong win over GWS last week, I’m not quite convinced they’re all the way back, and this looms as a proper danger game with their top-two hopes on the line.

(Photo by Russell Freeman/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

Dem Panopoulos

Last week: 5

Brisbane, Richmond, Carlton, GWS, Geelong, Adelaide, Western Bulldogs, Melbourne, Port Adelaide

What a hectic final couple of weeks we can expect.

Most matches have something on the line and if they don’t, they’re causes for celebration, with the end of legendary careers coming to an end.

It starts off with a clash between the flag favourites and that fortuitous Brisbane team. It may come as a surprise to anyone reading this, but I’m leaning towards the Lions here. They play Marvel Stadium well, they’ve played the Magpies relatively well but most importantly, Collingwood is surely going to use this time to trial different things. With something to play for, it’d be disappointing for Brisbane if they don’t win.

Saturday’s earliest match will tug at the heartstrings and bring a tear to the eye. The Tigers aren’t playing well, but they’re saying farewell to two all-time greats in Trent Cotchin and Jack Riewoldt. That should be enough to get it done.

Gold Coast’s directness is a danger to Carlton, but the Blues will welcome back a few stars in a bid to extend their winning streak into a third month. They’ll probably win, but it’s a danger game up north, before Damien Hardwick is announced as Suns coach.

Rarely do we get back-to-back weeks where the Saturday twilight game means so much, but the Giants and Bombers are playing for their seasons here. It’ll clash a bit with the third-place playoff for the Matildas, so make sure you have multiple screens. GWS’ defence should prove too good for the Bombers’ attack.

All of a sudden, the Saints are moving the ball quickly and look more structured. It’s a fair shift in gameplan and it’s come with so little time left in the season. A win here, though, and they’re playing in September.

But we have to go back to Round 13, 2010 for the last time the Saints had a win by more than 10 points against the Cats, with Geelong winning 12 of the last 16 fixtures between the two, plus a draw. It’s Geelong’s season on the line too, and they’ll show up.

Speaking of season on the line, it’s Adelaide against Sydney for a finals spot (you’d think), with the Swans facing a tough final game of the season against Melbourne. Fun fact: these two teams have played at Adelaide Oval once since 2017. The home team should have enough firepower.

Then we waltz across to the Sunday fixtures. The Bulldogs should get back on track against the Eagles and the Bont will be seeking three Brownlow votes on that day. There’ll be no resting players in that fixture.

Hawthorn’s really quite good and people are starting to catch on now that the results have started to flow through. The Demons will win this one, though, because they need to, and it’ll be done comfortably.

Finally, Port hasn’t seen much success in Perth, but this new look midfield should be suited to this particular ground and take care of Fremantle.

(Photo by Scott Barbour/Getty Images)

Cameron Rose

Last week: 7

Brisbane, Richmond, Carlton, GWS, Geelong, Adelaide, Western Bulldogs, Melbourne, Port Adelaide

Let’s get the non-eight point games out of the way first: in the weekend’s one true dead rubber, Richmond say goodbye to Trent Cotchin and Jack Riewoldt, while for North Melbourne, it’s sayonara Jack Ziebell. The Tigers have double the reason to win this one, and back at the MCG, they will.

The Western Bulldogs, Carlton, Melbourne and Port Adelaide all face teams outside the top eight, and I’m picking them all in that order of confidence. With their season on the line, it would be catastrophe if the Dogs go down to West Coast; Carlton are better than Gold Coast and if they can beat three top-four teams they should have no issues, even on the glitter strip; the Demons face a fired-up Hawthorn but have a midfield strong enough to avoid the pantsings Sam Mitchell’s men have dished out in their last two wins; while the Power have the toughest challenge of all, a trip to Perth to face Fremantle, but found their best form against GWS last week and should be too strong.

That leaves four games with huge finals permutations. Collingwood can seal up the minor premiership on Friday night against Brisbane, while for the Lions, winning would have a similar effect on their top-two chances. If the Lions win, they’ll have the inside running on not leaving the Gabba until the grand final, and with the Magpies smashed by injury, I’m expecting them to get home.

The equation is simple for GWS and Essendon: win, or it’s season over, given the percentage differential to the Western Bulldogs and the fact one of Adelaide and Sydney will also leapfrog the loser. Both have hugely tough outings in Round 24 as well, with the Bombers facing Collingwood and the Giants coming to Melbourne to battle Carlton; it’s likely neither will reach September from here, but the Giants are just plain better than the Dons and at home, should keep their season alive for one extra week.

The stakes are even higher for Adelaide and Sydney on Saturday night: given the Swans are on 46 points and the Crows have West Coast in the last round, the winner can almost guarantee themselves a finals berth. It’s perilous to pick against the Crows in Adelaide this year, and with so much at stake I won’t be doing so here – even if the Swans’ forward line dynamism could trouble a threadbare home defence.

Lastly, the most fascinating game of the round: the death-defying St Kilda and the hugely vulnerable Geelong. It’s certainly season over for the Cats if they lose this one, while for the Saints, unless they can knock over Brisbane at the Gabba next week, their fate will be similar. Everyone has basically written off the Saints for two months because of their final two fixtures, and while they’ve won most of the games they should have, they’ve hardly been impressive enough to back them against the reigning premiers, no matter that it’s at Marvel Stadium.

Jack Ziebell leads North Melbourne out before a match in 2019. (Photo by Quinn Rooney/Getty Images)

Liam Salter

Last week: 6

Collingwood, Richmond, Carlton, GWS, Geelong, Adelaide, Western Bulldogs, Melbourne, Port Adelaide

Fourteen points was the combined winning margin for our Friday night duo last round, with first-placed Collingwood hosting second-placed Brisbane in a cracker. It’s convention (the Lions do indeed struggle away from home) versus the unexpected (nope, the Pies are not always perennially lucky with injuries). Collingwood isn’t fielding their best outfit – far from it – but they’re in their comfort zone, and I need all the tips I can get. 

The Tigers, sure to be buoyed by the final games of club stalwarts Trent Cotchin and Jack Riewoldt, shouldn’t find the going particularly tough facing the Kangaroos in what’s sure to be an emotional afternoon. In the Sunshine State, the Suns’ 2023 is more or less running on fumes at the moment – that should allow a splendid Carlton outfit to secure an eighth consecutive win.

Speaking of splendid, the Saints are decidedly not that, yet remain in sixth. It’s going to be tricky facing the Cats, who find themselves in unfamiliar territory outside the eight. As is the theme this weekend, both teams need the win for finals, and I have more trust in a rebounding Cats outfit.

When the Giants meet Essendon, a close game ensues. That’s been the script over the last few years, and with this being an elimination final in all but name, it’s sure to be accurate on Saturday evening, which makes picking a winner nigh on impossible. GWS’ form has been more encouraging, and I can’t in good conscience tip all of the Victorian big four teams in one column, so let’s go the hosts. 

For a team in worse form than their opponents, the Crows are relentlessly optimistic that finals are still viable – it’s just absolutely everything has to go their way.  And ‘absolutely everything’ includes conquering the Swans, who are in damn good form themselves. The Crows’ optimism is resonating with me, and at home, they’re a fine tip. 

The Dogs seem to be embracing an intriguing mentality of ‘who needs finals anyway’, something that is always a risk against the Eagles (ask the Bombers a fortnight ago). In saying that, this’ll be the Doggies and by some margin.

We get a little top-eight jockeying to finish the round. Port and Melbourne know third – or second if the Lions lose – is available. Neither would be comfortable with their games this weekend – the Power against Freo and the Dees hosting Hawthorn. The Hawks have conquered two premiership threats in two weeks, and Freo at Optus is trickier than it looks. I’m backing neither upset, but they’re not far-fetched.

Ollie Wines (Photo by Paul Kane/Getty Images)

Round 23 Tim Dem Cam Liam Crowd
COL vs BL COL BL BL COL BL
RCH vs NM RCH RCH RCH RCH RCH
GCS vs CAR CAR CAR CAR CAR CAR
GWS vs ESS GWS GWS GWS GWS GWS
STK vs GEE GEE GEE GEE GEE GEE
ADE vs SYD SYD ADE ADE ADE ADE
WB vs WCE WB WB WB WB WB
MEL vs HAW MEL MEL MEL MEL MEL
FRE vs PA PA PA PA PA PA
LAST WEEK 7 5 7 6 7
ROLLING TOTAL 118 127 127 124 135

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The Crowd Says:

2023-08-18T09:52:04+00:00

Rowdy

Roar Rookie


Cadbury's?

2023-08-18T09:50:37+00:00

Rowdy

Roar Rookie


Nooooo

2023-08-18T09:48:49+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


Imagine Joel Erickson's posts this weekend as Port's brilliant young midfield gradually recognises an even better young midfield wearing purple.

2023-08-18T09:47:23+00:00

Chanon

Roar Rookie


Pick a winner :silly:

2023-08-18T08:12:28+00:00

Doctor Rotcod

Roar Rookie


Precision pick with the Dogs... You could almost pick all of the away teams.

2023-08-18T08:05:33+00:00

PeteB

Roar Rookie


It’s a day game Macca so I probably won’t be watching. Given that, the Blues should win by about 6 goals :stoked:

2023-08-18T07:13:12+00:00

AdamDilligafThompson

Roar Rookie


Usually anything I say goes the complete opposite but let's say collingwood in a close one or Brisbane by say 4+ goals if it goes the otherway.lol.

2023-08-18T06:43:43+00:00

Laurie

Roar Rookie


Well it's hard to split them. Played in Melbourne but not at the MCG . And Brisbane is on 5 game winning streak against Collingwood. Could go either way.

2023-08-18T06:16:15+00:00

AdamDilligafThompson

Roar Rookie


Im starting to doubt myself, all year what ever I've done on the Tuesday night ive stuck with with all my tipping comps, which cost me when I tipped swans to beat Geelong at Geelong and then thought doh bad choice but stuck with it unfortunately and this time I though no change it and now think I should of stuck to my own rules.lol.

2023-08-18T05:58:12+00:00

Laurie

Roar Rookie


I hope you’re wrong about Brisbane tonight Adam

2023-08-18T05:03:47+00:00

AdamDilligafThompson

Roar Rookie


Brisbane, tipped collingwood in a topping comp that i do on a Tuesday night but with the outs Brisbane really should win this. Tigers Blues Giants Cats Crows Dogs, could be the final coach killa if dogs bring their best. Demons Port, danger game at their best freo can be hard to break.

2023-08-18T03:26:07+00:00

Macca

Roar Rookie


Leading up to the Suns game you had won 5 of your last 6 with the only loss being 1 point to the Dees so you weren't travelling too bad. I think we should win for the reasons you mention but the Suns can be tricky up there and the BLues have been up for a while plus are coming of a game where both teams came close to laying 90 tackles - it is a game we would be very often blow. Will be a big sign of our bona fides if we take care of business.

2023-08-18T02:14:52+00:00

DingoGray

Roar Guru


yep- because we have been in terrible form. (Little bit better against the Crows on the weekend but still nowhere near our best footy). You blokes are flying and absolutely primed. Getting guys back as well.

2023-08-18T01:38:25+00:00

Macca

Roar Rookie


The Suns took care of your boys pretty well a couple of weeks ago

2023-08-18T00:42:03+00:00

DingoGray

Roar Guru


Pies (not buying the media bollocks of it's the Lions game to lose- Brisbane haven't been firing) Tigers (Cotch and Jack get a nice farewell- Ziebell had a great career too- just won't finish with W) Blues (form team- not having any of the Blues supporters Suns hogwash) Giants (this tough game to pick- Bombers have been solid all year- GWS home swayed me) Saints (anywhere near last week form- Cats are done) Crows (played awesome last week- should of won at the Gabba- seem to lift at home) Dogs (get it done move onto the "Elimination Final" against the Cats week after) Dees (Hawks to take it to last quarter, but class to prevail) Port (we zero confidence, but Ken resigning get it done )

2023-08-18T00:32:26+00:00

The Iron Dingo

Roar Rookie


As much as I'm hoping the Crows will put it together against the Swans - and I think they should at home - going down this week and taking the easy win next week against WCE to finish 10th or 11th would probably be an accurate reflection of their season and where the team is at. That said, whoever has to face them in an elimination final if they do get through will be sweating it.

2023-08-18T00:23:09+00:00

Macca

Roar Rookie


My Brother in law turned the game off with 5 minutes to go!!!

2023-08-18T00:19:22+00:00

PeteB

Roar Rookie


Thanks for the sacrifice Col. Feel like I almost cost us the game last week by watching. I did close my eyes when Petracca’s kick looked like going through for a goal though :laughing:

2023-08-18T00:03:02+00:00

Chanon

Roar Rookie


Yea but they are still feral :stoked:

2023-08-17T23:36:20+00:00

Macca

Roar Rookie


Thanks for taking one for the team Col. 2012 still haunts me and I remember listening to the 2019 game as I drove back from my in laws - from memory we dominated everything is both those games except the scoreboard.

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