Rugby’s Mourinho: Why Australian rugby desperately needs Eddie Jones

By W Evans / Roar Rookie

Eddie isn’t crazy. He hasn’t lost the plot. He knows exactly what he’s doing. He’s channeling his inner Jose Mourinho.

First up, let’s get a few misconceptions out of the way.

People appear to have forgotten Jones was the last Australia coach to win a Bledisloe, one of only two men to coach the Wallabies to a World Cup Final this century and one of only three to win a Super Rugby title as coach in the past 22 years.

While Australian rugby fans have stopped short of labelling Eddie ‘Judas’ this month, I’m reminded of Mourinho’s beloved Stamford Bridge and the Special One’s reaction when the Chelsea crowd turned on him.

“They can call me what they want. Until the moment they have a manager that wins four Premier Leagues for them, I’m the No.1. When they have somebody that wins four Premier Leagues for them, I become No.2. Until this moment Judas is No.1.”

The notion that Dave Rennie was mistreated because he was a Kiwi or that Jones himself got special treatment is also nonsense.

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After reaching that famous final in 2003, Jones’ Wallabies suffered a spate of injuries before finishing 2005 with a series of narrow losses. Unlike Rennie, Eddie was sacked before a review even took place.

There was no mercy. No ‘he’s been unlucky with injuries’. No ‘he’s a victim of Super Rugby neglecting tight forwards’. The Buck stopped with Jones, as it should have done. Just as it stopped with Ewen McKenzie and Michael Cheika.

The treatment of Rennie is no more appalling than the treatment handed out to a Kiwi coach who hasn’t been sacked, Ian Foster.

The English bayed for Eddie’s blood too, of course, notwithstanding the fact his record was the best of any of their coaches at any time – 73 per cent (won 59 of 81 Tests). Ironically, Steve Borthwick owns his own records already, like the biggest defeat at Twickenham ever, a 53-10 loss to France this year.

Jones will be judged, not on the outcome of four Tests but of 40, not on one season but on four. In many ways, he’s put 25 years of professional coaching success on the line for his country.

But I digress.

There’s no doubt whatsoever that Eddie Jones’ recent outbursts have been calculated and targeted. Just as Mourinho’s often were. Designed to promote the game as well as distract from a state of flux. And get his face on the tele, of course.

In what’s been described variously as a “sustained rant”, a “hissy fit” and a “tirade of abuse”, Jones succeeded in all his aims.

Just last year, Eddie suggested that Rassie Erasmus might hide in the laundry to defy his stadium ban.

Coincidentally, or not, Mourinho once claimed back in 2005 to have hidden in a laundry basket to get around a two-match ban.

It’s no surprise that the Portuguese is on Eddie’s mind. There’s more than a little Jose Mourinho about Eddie Jones.

Both enjoy ‘banter’ with the media, but more importantly, recognise how to use it.

Need a siege mentality? Coming right up. Don’t want to expose young players to the front page, leave it with me! Want to pile pressure on another coach, great!

When Arsene Wenger stated that the Special One was playing his side’s title chances down due to a fear of failure, Mourinho famously noted, “If he is right and I am afraid of failure it is because I didn’t fail many times. Eight years without silverware, that’s a failure. He’s a specialist in failure.”

Would anybody be surprised to see Jones take aim at Warren Gatland shortly? He’s a bloke who hasn’t won much for a while.

I am sure that many of you will turn around and argue that Eddie has failed more than Wenger and won a lot less than Mourinho. But that’s unfair given his CV and more than a little short-sighted.

Let’s be clear, Jones’ recent decisions to dump Quade Cooper and pick Vunivalu have been frustrating and contradictory on the surface. Losing his first four Tests back in charge, unsatisfactory.

That doesn’t make him a failure.

Even Jones’ ‘failures’ have been tinged with more than a hint of success. Japan, of course, beat South Africa in 2015 in what was the greatest upset in World Cup history. His England beat New Zealand in 2019 before falling to Siya Kolisi’s South African side. The English media widely viewed that win against the All Blacks as one of the national side’s greatest performances.

As much as I respect Knuckles Connolly, the allegation Jones is a ‘charlatan’ is frankly rubbish and loaded with baggage and history.

Jones has recognised that Australian rugby is on its knees and needs to be shock started, like a dicky ticker.

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It is delusional for the same old voices from the blazer brigade to deny that. Rugby is now the sixth sport in Australia, certainly after soccer and probably after basketball.

The relative success of the RWC campaign in 2015 only papered over the cracks. We’ve had the same cast essentially trying to win anything, something for the last decade. It hasn’t worked.

When Christy Doran wrote last week that the game in this country was on the brink of returning to amateurism, it wasn’t really a stretch. That should frighten us all.

Rugby in Australia is a game played on the margins, mainly by elites where old heads in posh amateur sporting clubs refuse to read the mail. Like Argentinian rugby was before another little general, Agustin Pichot, grabbed it by the scruff of the neck.

Eddie knows that a respectable but unsuccessful performance on a distant shore in an inconvenient time zone will get little attention from media that already pays less than little notice of rugby, whereas losing the Lions series or home World Cup may be terminal for the game.

And good on him for weighing those realities and ripping off the bandaid.

We should all be sick of losing, all tired of soothing excuses like “but didn’t they really try hard”, or “maybe if they’d had the bounce of the ball”.

Becoming specialists in failure is unacceptable. Risks must be taken now, not in 2024.

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“I’m not afraid to lose my job, and when you’re not afraid, you don’t feel any pressures. You are not too worried; you can express yourself in a different way. It makes you better, I think. I arrive with all my qualities and defects.”

That isn’t a quote from Eddie Jones by the way, although it easily could be, couldn’t it? As could this little gem from the Special One: “God must think I’m a great guy, he must think that because otherwise he would not have given me so much… he must have a very high opinion of me.”

There is box office in Eddie Jones, a propensity to back his gut and take unpopular risks on his own terms. He’s succeeded more often than not which is why he is where he is. Just like Jose Mourinho.

While it might make the Australian rugby community uncomfortable, that’s no bad thing for a game on its knees.

The Crowd Says:

2023-08-27T14:33:41+00:00

Neil Back

Roar Rookie


If you take Johnson's tenure, and map that same time period over those of the last of Jones, the win/loss is remarkably similar. That's how bad things had become. And remember, Jones produced that with years of absolute control before serving it up, a head start Johnson did not have - nor did he have previous experience of managing even a pro club team! Now that is astonishing. It's not me that's spinning here my friend.

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2023-08-27T07:46:37+00:00

W Evans

Roar Rookie


The astonishing thing for me is that after 2007, England have been underwhelming across the board and at their most successful when Eddie was at the helm. No matter how you spin it, he obtained far better results than Johnson and Borthwick, favourite sons of course. To say that Eddie was successful because of Lancaster but Borthwick is unsuccessful because of Eddie just illustrates why English Rugby is where it is.

2023-08-27T06:01:13+00:00

JD Kiwi

Roar Rookie


Nice finish - you should be a writer! Borethwick is a terrible choice if you want a change from Jones. Same strategy and very old school schoolmasterly - as opposed to a Wayne Smith style teacher! I sometimes think that Jones will say any old rubbish to get through an interview or press conference intact or meet his objective, although not as bad as Boris when he was PM. He recently said that all selections were a contradiction - his maybe but not the very best head coaches! Great to have you visiting - you always have a good perspective.

2023-08-27T04:29:48+00:00

Neil Back

Roar Rookie


Blimey, were you literally poised waiting for this result?! Nope, of course this one's not all on Eddie. It's equally on the RFU who waited at least a year too long to chuck a hot potato to a man not best suited to deal with. And as I tried (and seemingly failed) to explain to you above, no coach walks into a dressing room and peels of a GS in his very first 6 games unless something pretty exceptional already existed. As further evidence, you're seeing exactly the same pinciple play out here. No coach walks into a dressing room and peels off such miserable first up performances unless something pretty miserable already existed. We can it seems agree on one point - the RFU are, and have been, dysfunctional for quite some time.

2023-08-27T04:19:14+00:00

Neil Back

Roar Rookie


Hey JD, sorry but haven't been on for a while and just saw your question. Nicely written and constructed piece and a lot I recognise and agree with. Impossible to capture all the vagaries of Eddie's reign and correlate them accurately to England's increasingly obvious decline in the back half of his tenure. Not least because he's a man full of contradiction (confusion springs to mind as a synonym) - and in many ways his later sides and selections, and their subsequent performances, mirrored that. However, and your article touches on this, the bigger culprit in the room is the RFU. The disastrously manged tenure of Jones is just one symptom of their dysfunction, as is the hot potato they chucked to Borthwick, who gives every impression of a man who didn't realise he needed oven gloves.

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2023-08-26T16:21:22+00:00

W Evans

Roar Rookie


I guess England losing to Fiji is on Eddie too? Borthwick has had 10 test to shape the side and lost 5 of the last 6 tests… Again, huge problems with English Rugby ( Beaumont, Top 14, Jobs for the boys) and it’s roosting.

2023-08-21T13:22:19+00:00

cs

Roar Guru


Nice to read a well-written and strongly argued piece of optimism, even if I'll remain an Eddie sceptic while the crazy talk continues and there's 0 on his win list.

2023-08-21T07:34:26+00:00

Rohan

Roar Rookie


Great read WEvans. Well supported cogent narrative and a long view. Interestingly, according to another Roar article, English media is suggesting that Eddie's WBs might end England's RWC run, while reporting some fans are now regretting his sacking. Oh the irony. But longevity and loyalty are rare things for professional coaches in their top flight competitions. As a Gunners fan since 1971, I must point out that Mourinho's latter career has been less spectacular, much like Eddie's and that Arsene Wenger was never endowed with the $$$ showered on the Chelsea squad. Seems analogous to resource starved Oz rugby! But I liked the way he stayed the guvnor for such a long time. And, as an Arsenal fan, I've been anxiously watching Tottenham results and interviews with Ange P. He has a very different approach to Eddie. Seems calm, collected and rational. I kind of like that compared to Eddie's Jekyll and Hyde persona. Thanks for a thought provoking article.

2023-08-21T07:31:56+00:00

Neil Back

Roar Rookie


The Slam is often put out there by those advocating for Eddie. But it really only demonstrates my position. Not even a 'Very Special One' walks into a dressing room and churns out a GS in his first five games in charge without something pretty special being in place already. Just think about it for a second. It's obvious. And I can't let you away with 'very effective for 3 seasons'. It was exactly at the start of his third term that he delivered the worst-ever 6N campaign (first of two). The rot was already showing.

2023-08-21T07:19:02+00:00

JD Kiwi

Roar Rookie


Hi Neil, I don't think you were around when I published this, trying to give a fuller picture on Eddie's England tenure. I'd be interested in your thoughts. I gave Eddie a pass mark for his first four years. Making a final at the peak of the golden generation cycle wasn't as good as 2003/07 12 years earlier but equalled 1991 12 years before that. A definite fail for his second world cup cycle obviously. I have furious English friends about how he's left the team mentally. https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/07/21/did-eddie-jones-squander-or-empower-englands-golden-generation-what-will-happen-for-australia/

2023-08-21T06:37:24+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


Well his Japan v SA and his beating the ABs in 2019 are 1 offs. He couldn't get those results again and couldn't win the week after. His 2 WC final loses dont show success as not many consider not winning as successful. He did win a blesisloe but he also lost it and NZ has held it since. Yep he won an SR title. Have you seen his roster for that game? No ones saying he couldn't coach but he isn't being so successful lately

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2023-08-21T06:24:26+00:00

W Evans

Roar Rookie


All entitled to opinions and respect your view. But… Eddie did lead England to a Grand Slam, their first in 13 years. On top of that, he won two away series in Australia (5/1 win loss), another 6 Nations and a RWC Final. Interestingly, during that time Borthwick was an assistant (from Bristol I think) and Gustard from Saracens to try and bring coaches through. Look, Jones isn’t perfect, fully agree he has a history of being very affective for 3 seasons and then losing hearts and minds in the 4th (a key Mourinho comparator). But to say his success was off the back of Lancaster… don’t buy it. 5 months after the RWC debacle, Jones won 18 straight. To me the problems with English rugby prob deserve their own article but certainly the Top 14, Bill Beaumont and squabbling between the clubs would all feature ahead of Eddie.

2023-08-21T05:55:25+00:00

Cam

Roar Rookie


He's the father of the Australian sheep industry.

2023-08-21T05:53:39+00:00

Neil Back

Roar Rookie


Not really Mr Evans. Woodward built to a cresendo over his tenure, which is what you'd hope and expect to see. After more than three years of absolute control, Eddie took things in the opposite direction, despite having the added advantage of 9 out of 13 U20 RWC fianalist teams at his disposal. Unfortunately Eddie's legacy will take a long time to fix. As decent a bloke as Steve Borthwick is, I doubt he's the guy to fix things any time soon.

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2023-08-21T05:49:46+00:00

W Evans

Roar Rookie


It’s an interesting point Mungo. This is where I think there are parallels with Mourinho (a) any publicity is good publicity especially when rugby in australia is largely ignored by the media and (b) I think Eddie is pretty deliberate in the things he says and does.

2023-08-21T05:49:15+00:00

Neil Back

Roar Rookie


Not even close. It wasn't a single poor home tournament. It was years of mad results, including the two worst ever home nations tournaments and a schizophrenic RWC tilt. Unfortunately the misadministration kept their patience for at least a year too long.

2023-08-21T05:41:45+00:00

Neil Back

Roar Rookie


Yep, Lancaster had a horror home tournament and people still underestimate the effect the RFU riding roughshod and mishandling of Burgess Gate had on the dressing room. But it doesn't change the fact he handed over a very good group of players and pathways. And no, Lancaster doesn't get the credit for Jones' run. Eddie put belief back into the group and the quality of that group took over. But to repeat, once Eddie had several years in complete control and started his own shaping, it produced even worse results.

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2023-08-21T04:46:21+00:00

W Evans

Roar Rookie


Thanks Neil Back If it was a record across 5-10 games I could see your point but across 81… it’s a better record than Sir Clive’s. Important also to say that Lancaster did well with youth and continued on at Leinster. He also had immense resources to prepare for a home World Cup, was in the seat 4 years, picked Sam Burgess and was bundled out at the Pool Stage… Lots written about Eddie being the problem in England last year but Borthwick going 3 from 8 and suffering the largest ever loss at Twickenham (in 100 years). Three Red Cards from his last 3 tests I think too…? English Rugby has some issues that don’t appear to have been Eddie’s.

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2023-08-21T04:38:32+00:00

W Evans

Roar Rookie


Cheers Rocky. Fully agreed, Eddie will be judged over the next 3-4 years, not the past 3-4 games. I do see a lot of Mourinho in Eddie- the way he whips up the crowd, uses the media, gets reaction from players he hand picks in the short term

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2023-08-21T04:36:17+00:00

W Evans

Roar Rookie


Hi Jacko I’m not sure I compared ‘one off successes’. I noted his Super Rugby title, Bledisloe (which was also a Tri-Nations) and England record. I suppose his 2 x runner up medals at the RWC are ‘failures’ but along with what he did with Japan, impressive in any case.

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