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Eddie can be blamed for a diabolical RWC showing and a missing 2-3 million in over spend.

People are attracted to the demonization of Eddie because it offers a simple solution and narrative: “Eddie was bad, now he is gone, things will get better.”

The truth is, he didn’t cause Super Rugby crowds to halve over 10 years. He didn’t sign off the Rebels company accounts. He didn’t seed sports concussion claims or cause a myriad of laws and rules to make it unmarketable.

You see people say on here all the time that it doesn’t matter how the game is played, that you just need to create grass roots growth, without seeing the obvious fact that both are related.

The game is really struggling globally and that ain’t just down to Edward Jones. He’s insignificant.

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Fair point KFTD.
What I’d say is that everyone knows BOK is pretty lenient around the breakdown, the Reds would have prepared on that basis. The Chiefs just pumped them in the first 20 minutes, were more physical. After that it was always damage mitigation but the Reds did straighten up the attack a bit and committed more players to the breakdown I thought.

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Sorry, ridiculous comment.
*give yourself an uppercut
Lynagh is 20yo in his first full season of professional rugby, he’s a shining light. To put the ridiculousness of your comment in context, a bloke called Jonny Wilkinson was beaten 78-0 at the age of 20 on his first international tour… about 5 years before he won a RWC.
The Reds were belted up front by bigger players who won collisions and were more accurate at the breakdown. Lynagh, Flook, Ryan etc. never stood a chance.

'Care for each other deeply': Kiss finds 'soft' positives after QF no-show shreds Wallaby prospects

Reds lost the game upfront. Plain and simple. You could have had Jonny Sexton starting at 10 for the Reds and it wouldn’t have mattered in the first 20 minutes.

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It’s physicality and breakdown accuracy. The Lions, Boks, Irish that have gone to NZ have won upfront. You need to rattle the Kiwis and only the best and biggest can do it.

The Reds backs had no breathing space and that was mostly due to the battle up front being lost.

D-Smacked! Reds 'taught a lesson in every aspect' as Chiefs storm into Super Rugby semis

The positives: Reds won the second half and looked dangerous when they ran the ball straight and kept composed.

The negatives: they were blown off the park in the first 20 minutes by brute force physicality at the breakdown as well as in collisions.

Nothing to do with the referee, the Reds deserve criticism tonight just as they deserved acclaim earlier in the season. Possibly only Ryan Smith and Fraser McReight matched their opposite numbers.

Proud Queenslander here but Reds need much more time against good opposition. The Wales game is a great idea. Many of them (Wright, Lynagh, Flook, Ryan etc.) need time with Australia A this year too.

D-Smacked! Reds 'taught a lesson in every aspect' as Chiefs storm into Super Rugby semis

Melbourne has a hugely saturated professional sporting market. Of course the Rebels needed funding just like any start up, let alone one in Victoria.

The problem is that Rugby Australia didn’t/ doesn’t have the resources to compete in that market and the people running rugby in that market didn’t have the skills to establish the Rebels regardless. Perfect storm.

Does the failure of the Rebels prove that rugby has no business in Melbourne?

Really questioning Toomua’s commentary at the moment, made some bizarre assertions last week too.

I’d start McReight, Tizzano and even Liam Wright (who is a tweener) ahead of Gamble at 7.

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Isaac Henry for me is the great hope of Australian rugby at 12…

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Nawaqanitawase looked like he was going through the motions for almost all of the season.

You have to wonder how much that rubbed off on the team.

Schmidt's picks: Big Tane questions Joe must answer, and most on 'trend' player he named

Let’s not look too much into who has been selected for the equivalent of a 50 man squad.

Lolesio, Gordon, Lynagh, Donaldson are all miles ahead of Edmed.

Schmidt will be watching the finals really closely and it’ll be far more interesting when they are finished (to state what should be very obvious).

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Maybe… but my guess is he’s seen Ryan Smith, Darcy Swain and several others outplay Holloway this year and thought there was an opportunity to take a look at a player on the fringes.

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I’m not surprised really.
At 6 you have Wright, Hooper and arguably Valetini if that’s where Schmidt sees him.
At lock there is a host of talent ahead of him: Smith, Rodda, Frost, Canham, Swain…
And then you have hybrid guys like LSL, Uru.

Beale in, Marky Mark snubbed as Schmidt makes first selection calls as Wallabies coach

Spot on. There is no money.
The fool who turned down Twiggy’s money 10 years ago should be up for corporate vandalism.
An opportunity to guarantee the Force financially as well as millions each year guaranteed into grass roots and sponsorship for a domestic club competition. Squandered.

Does the failure of the Rebels prove that rugby has no business in Melbourne?

You need to be in a very strong position both in terms of finance as well as your product to enter the Australian sporting market, let alone Melbourne.

Unfortunately, the Rebels have been loss making since their inception in part due to a poor national product and a lack of assistance from the central body but also in part due to mismanagement and incompetence in Victoria too.

Does the failure of the Rebels prove that rugby has no business in Melbourne?

Reds v Canes, Reds v Brumbies, Reds v Auckland, Brumbies v Canes….

All top quality games. The Brumbies and Reds belong in this finals series, most evenly matched comp in years.

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It may be more serious for Mr Clifford and his daughter than a vanity project.

It’s a big deal trading insolvent at all let alone doing so across multiple years, supposedly dating back to pre-Covid.

My sense all along has been that Clifford knows this, knows his daughter may be personally exposed to creditors and has been trying to (a) create a situation where creditors agree to take say 10c in the $ from a new set up or (b) he goes to Court, forces a mediation and settles for enough to save his daughters millions.

One could ask, where was the great businessman, the great supporter of Rugby when the accounts were being signed off?

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The Rebels will be most people’s second team through the finals – hope the players hold their heads high.

The point Foote makes about the lack of investment by the national body in the early stages holds true.

But the fact the Rebels have been likely trading insolvent for 5 years (since before Covid) and the directors have failed in many of their duties (even to file legally required documents) over so long is a disgrace. It beggars belief that the ‘rescue plan’ had such little detail – reeked of directors trying to shuffle personal liability around.

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Definitely similarities but while the same height I think Tune was 95kg while Ryan is about 82kg?

Would be interesting to know what weight Tune played at around the same age.

Ryan in terms of stature is a little like Peter Hynes (memory?!).

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***nobody will be as good as Cullen but that doesn’t prevent people playing like him.***

Caleb Clarke/ Jonah Lomu
Josh Flook/ Conrad Smith
Tom Lynagh/ Michael Lynagh

Fair point on Cullen’s explosiveness though, he was a beautiful balanced runner but had powerful acceleration which Jock doesn’t have.

Who let the Dog out? Ryan credits fringe Wallaby for unleashing huge potential - 'he's always barking at me'

I was scoffed at yesterday for comparing Campbell to Christian Cullen but there are definite comparisons – nobody will be as good as Cullen but that doesn’t prevent people playing like him.

Campbell (like Ryan) is a footballer, he has a really good grasp positionally, precise kicking game, knows when to enter the line and where etc. Has that gliding, balanced run and elusiveness that Cullen had too.

And full backs like that make their team look much better, especially their wings.

Who let the Dog out? Ryan credits fringe Wallaby for unleashing huge potential - 'he's always barking at me'

I didn’t say he is Christian Cullen or is as good as Christian Cullen.

He reminds me of. ie style of play, size etc. Gliding runner rather than explosive. Not a huge boot but very precise and well executed. Joins the line at the right time not always as first receiver but capable of it.

Jeez.

'His decision making is exceptional': Lynagh masterclass, Ryan hat-trick as future Wallabies help Reds stomp Force

Read the post Dezza.
Take him into camp as a third scrum half to have a look at him ahead of White who has been underwhelming and is a known quantity.
And yes, learnt plenty from the last RWC. The teams that experimented and built from 4 years out were 3 of the 4 semi finalists. Boks for example, beaten on the Gold Coast by Australia while searching for combinations and blooding players. France, beaten 2-1 in the Australian series with a bunch of young blokes who went on to be the core that contested the RWC at home.

'His decision making is exceptional': Lynagh masterclass, Ryan hat-trick as future Wallabies help Reds stomp Force

After Lolesio who in Australia has played better than Lynagh at 10?

He’s not going to start any tests this year but he should at least be 1 of 3 flyhalves in the 30 man squad and start for Australia A.

One thing I do know about All Black Rugby is that form is pretty important. We need to bring back that simple concept in Australia.

'His decision making is exceptional': Lynagh masterclass, Ryan hat-trick as future Wallabies help Reds stomp Force

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