What the EPL?!: Ange moves into domination mode in the best league in the world(™)

By Mike Meehall Wood / Editor

It’s not surprising to anyone with a passing knowledge of Australian football that Ange Postecoglou is really, really good at management. In fact, you can chuck the Japanese and the Scots in there as well, given his success in their leagues, and probably the Greeks too.

In England, you don’t count unless you’ve done it on their turf – can Leo Messi do it on a wet Wednesday night in Stoke, etc etc – so it’s taken them a while to realise that they have something special on their hands.

Beyond the ‘mate’ in press conferences (we wait in anticipation for his first champing) and the idea that somehow us colonials don’t know who Robbie Williams is, it turns out that bloke knows a thing or two about football, too.

On the face of it, a thumping 5-2 win over Burnley shouldn’t be too much to write home about, but there are mitigating factors here.

For one, this is Burnleycelona, the side who brained the Championship last year, lead by high priest of jeugo de posicion and Pep disciple Vincent Kompany, very much a company man to the City Football Group. Ange, ex-Vuck as he is, absolutely wiped the floor with him.

It’s an interesting jumping off point for what Postecoglou is doing at Spurs. He’s a rare breed of a football manager in that he so rarely makes concessions to the opposing side, and especially not in early phases with a playing group where the point is as much embedding the style as it is winning.

Yet, despite knowing pretty much exactly what Spurs are going to do, teams don’t adapt at all. The only side that has is Brentford, who got a pretty decent 1-1 draw and probably should have won. Burnley tried to play the same style that worked in the Champo and got thrashed as a result.

It’s one thing when you’re the big dogs, like Guardiola is at Man City and Ange was at Celtic, but Spurs are only moderately-sized. Others could and should have more of a crack, if only to change the argument. Sit back, go direct, absorb and strike. See: Chelsea 0-1 Nottingham Forest 

One of the advantages of Ange’s system is that it looks imposing and tires teams out both physically and mentally. Again, when you’re an elite club with 80% of the ball regardless, that’s by the by, but Spurs aren’t that. 

Now they get 14 days off and a home game to Sheffield United to warm up for the North London derby. It’s been a great four weeks.

The best league in the world™

Optus viewers are as much victims to the whims of the Premier League scheduling squad as anyone else, meaning that our Saturday night 9pm offering wasn’t Liverpool v Aston Villa, as it might have been, or Spurs, or even Manchester City.

No, we got Everton’s trip to Sheffield United, and boy, was it an advertisement for the Premier League.

That’s not entirely sarcastic: it was a 2-2 draw between two bang average teams and, in fairness, rarely slowed down from the first minute onwards. If it was chaos you were looking for, you found it.

The big winners, as is usually the case, were the Premier League marketing folks. In truth, it was two bad teams playing largely bad football against each other, with the upshot that they werer closely matched enough that it passed muster as weekend evening fun for those flicking over after the NRL had finished.

There’s a nasty little streak in the Premier League, both implied by the marketing and echoed online through legions of fans, that everything that isn’t their product is rubbish.

Aussies know this well enough: our own football is often denigrarted in comparison to the likes of Sheffield United v Everton.

Your columnist was at Sydney FC’s 2-0 Australia Cup victory over APIA Leichhardt last Wednesday gone, and can assure that, despite a monsoon, more attempt at constructive, on the deck football was made than either the Blades or Toffees put in.

The close of the transfer window is as much to do with this, and it links back to the idea above that people aren’t respected until they play in England.

The Premier League pays ridiculous amounts of cash for players – Forest signed seven players on the same day for over $100m combined – and therefore they must be good, because money=success.

But football, as anyone knows, is so much about the collective and the system. West Ham are in the top four and Brighton, Crystal Palace and Brentford occupy 6th, 7th and 8th, with coherent ideas trumping throwing cash at the problem.

It’s reductive, of course, but where there is a lot of dumb money there are expanses of space to be taken by smart people with different ideas. Long may it continue.

Around the grounds

Chelsea losing at home to Nottingham Forest was undeniably hilarious. They are the worst culpriits for throwing money at a problem and every defeat, even one to a the similarly profligate Forest, is soaked in hubris.

Manchester United played Arsenal which should probably be bigger news than it is given the size of the clubs, but is so routine these days that nobody cares. There was a VAR call that got everyone very angry, but VAR will do that.

West Ham won, again, with two headers, again. Imagine how long they spent in a recruitment meeting before wondering if they shouldn’t just sign someone who was really good at corners, at the exact time that the best set piece deliver in the league, James Ward-Prowse, came onto the market.

Citeh remain excellent, Erling Haaland remains excellent. 

There’s an opus in why Aston Villa tried to play the world’s highest defensive line against Liverpool, thus inviting Trent Alexander-Arnold to play right over the top of them, but the short answer is that they (kind of) think it will work against most teams. 

They also lost 5-1 to Newcastle for similar reasons, but now sit well about the Toon thanks to their failures in recent weeks. 

Evan Ferguson scored a (fairly lucky) hat trick for Brighton in their 3-1 win, sending the away fans back home unhappy on the longest journey in this year’s Premier League.

Fun fact: the distance between the AMEX and St James’ Park is 581km, or roughly the distance from Sydney to Griffith. England is small.

The Crowd Says:

2023-09-08T03:46:17+00:00

Garry

Roar Rookie


"It has previously been indicated that the Glazer family want £6bn to sell the club but finance expert Kieran Maguire has now explained that Man Utd’s current owners feel that the club is “potentially worth somewhere in the region of £10bn”." "The Premier League giants have been up for sale since last November. It’s been made clear over the course of this process that Qatar’s Sheikh Jassim and Sir Jim Ratcliffe are the leading candidates to oust the Glazer family. Sheikh Jassim is only interested in a full takeover while Ratcliffe is willing to keep the Glazer family on board with a reduced stake of around 20%."

2023-09-08T03:41:29+00:00

Garry

Roar Rookie


Yes but Im just as worried re the alternative of being taking over by an oil state.. :shocked: The Glazers stacked the club with debt ( ps Ive been a Man U fan since at least the 60’s :happy: tho I refused to follow them during Mourinho’s time :crying: ) which meant when Man City’s money showed up Utd was unable to compete. ps I DID think we were a litttle robbed tho. Rice’s goal shouldve been disallowed and it was a possible pen on Holjund.

2023-09-08T03:17:40+00:00

Football is Life

Roar Rookie


Speaking of Man Utd, it was very interesting to listen to the thoughts of Kelly and Wrighty after the Utd v Forrest game. The universal agreement that the Glazers are having an impact on the club both on and off the pitch, I had to agree with. Things aren't right and I've been following Utd since 1974. I am sure you'd agree it's very frustrating.

2023-09-07T03:26:17+00:00

CW Moss

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I'm not a football fan, but my son's soon-to-be father-in-law is an Arsenal member. I want to boast about Ange, mate from down under. I guess I better wait until the Derby is over.

2023-09-06T06:49:23+00:00

Grem

Roar Rookie


How good does Kurcharski look? And they will buy a new striker. Grant has been injured, but will be back soon.

2023-09-06T04:36:39+00:00

Football is Life

Roar Rookie


Spot on Mike, and next winter the Second Div will be well worth a look I reckon. The clubs that make it into 2nd Div are going there to play for sheep stations and to be the inaugural winner. It will facilitate expansion, expenditure, sponsorship and most importantly a development pathway. I don't get to too many Jets away games, but you're spot on with the community. Once you get to know the regulars, the stalwarts and you can talk about who's in form and who's not so, what the rumours are etc, it brilliant

2023-09-06T04:32:43+00:00

Garry

Roar Rookie


Arsenal was beaten by young nerves last year..Im hoping they can go one better this year. BUT as a Man U man I was torn last game :laughing: :unhappy:

2023-09-06T04:22:37+00:00

chris1

Roar Rookie


The logic that "It's not as good as the EPL" therefore not worth watching is illogical at best. People in second/third tier football nations like Belgium, Greece, Holland etc don't ignore their local football to watch EPL on TV. As you said, nothing beats going to a game and watching it live. The standard in the A League is very good. There are enough grass roots players to ensure the quality is there and very much warranting our support.

2023-09-06T02:47:06+00:00

Garry

Roar Rookie


I see Arsenal as the team that can end up over Man City. They should've done it last year but young nerves got to them. As a Man Utd fan I was torn last game.. :silly:

2023-09-06T02:44:13+00:00

Garry

Roar Rookie


Dalglish for one year :happy:

2023-09-06T02:38:57+00:00

Garry

Roar Rookie


I agree WSW looks good at the moment but I think Sydney might be better than we think. Brattan is moving faster again and the defence looks solid. I get the feeling Sydney is in budget mode and will play the youngsters more.

2023-09-06T02:36:11+00:00

Garry

Roar Rookie


I was hoping Gurd would get a better run this year BUT the combo of Rodwell & Kirkwood Reich looks pretty good. Wood continues to disappoint tho. And Adamson shows potential but where's Grant?

2023-09-05T21:53:40+00:00

Football is Life

Roar Rookie


I just want an Ange led Spurs to give it to City. Just once, is enough, but if he does that, it changes everything.

AUTHOR

2023-09-05T21:15:18+00:00

Mike Meehall Wood

Editor


He's certainly very popular at the moment and people love what he did, especially given how poor we were before...but nothing on a Stein, O'Neill, Tommy Burns, Billy McNeill or about ten others I could name.

AUTHOR

2023-09-05T21:12:58+00:00

Mike Meehall Wood

Editor


Interesting chat - as someone who didn't grow up here (and in fact grew up in the shadow of the two Manchester clubs, though only United mattered back then...) I've always thought it was more important to watch the football in front of you, and in person if possible. Yeah, the A-League isn't as good as the EPL or whatever, but it's the football we have and the most important thing about the sport is the experience, actually going to games and having that community. I still miss the away days but you get a bit of that with A League, and I love all the different NPL clubs and their cultures. The EPL is best consumed on telly anyway. It's not worth the cash in person. There was one season when I was a teenager where Blackburn was cheaper than my local club (Rochdale) so I went there for a year...ended up back at the Dale anyway. Enjoyed it more.

AUTHOR

2023-09-05T21:08:42+00:00

Mike Meehall Wood

Editor


Would say the market was well distorted before then, PSG just showed what state cash could do in more real terms. It's been divorced from reality for years, first by oligarchs and plutocrats, now by state-controlled clubs.

2023-09-05T21:01:11+00:00

Rohan

Roar Rookie


Ange is tearing me in two. I've followed Arsenal and Celtic since 1971. I was overjoyed at Ange's success with the Hoops - won a couple of pints from pals betting he would deliver a double or better within 2 years. The thought of him at Spurs, possibly guiding them to victory in North London derbies or finishing higher up the ladder than my beloved Gunners fills me with dread despair. And as an Ozzie trying to succeed in the toughest football competition in the world, I feel compelled to cheer him on. Bugger me, go for it Ange, good on you mate!

2023-09-05T10:59:49+00:00

FFX

Roar Rookie


Re:Transfer fees, it's PSG who distorted the market they the signed Neymar, once that was done, the 100 million + barrier become the norm for supposed top players but it was Barca and Real Madrid who joined PSG buying over the 100 million mark first, took EPL and Chelsea in particular a while to catch up for real crazy eye watering transfer fees but consider that Man City got Erling Harland for £52 million pounds (albeit he's on £350K per week basic) to Dortmund, still shows you need to do your homework in the transfer market.

2023-09-05T08:42:53+00:00

Grem

Roar Rookie


A legend of the coast.

2023-09-05T08:40:59+00:00

Brendan

Roar Pro


FIL, that’s a cherished memory of your grandfather. It’s these little moments that make life & sport beautifully woven together.

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