WORLD VIEW: ABs pluck 'astonishing win from depth of their souls' while Irish face 'four more years of choking jokes'

By The Roar / Editor

New Zealand’s resilience to overcome in-form Ireland in one of the greatest ever Rugby World Cup matches was hailed by media at home and abroad on Sunday.

The Kiwis held out for 37 phases in the final minutes of a 28-24 win that was packed with incident and sealed when their veteran lock Sam Whitelock won the critical penalty to halt Ireland’s charge.

It meant Ireland has lost an eighth straight quarter-final – having never advanced to the semis.

The match will see the retirement of Johnny Sexton, who missed a crucial kick in the second half and was near tears as he reflected on the match afterwards.

But Ireland’s failure to make 17 straight wins and a world No.1 ranking count is one part of the story – the other being the way New Zealand ground out their victory despite twice going down to 14 men.

“The moment of truth came and it tested them to their limits, probably beyond, but from the depth of their soul they dug out the most brilliant, brave, astonishing win,” wrote Gregor Paul in the New Zealand Herald.

“They were everything they wanted to be. Everything they needed to be and while they produced three magical tries, it was the last four minutes that will live long in the memory when they pulled off the most disciplined, committed defensive rearguard of the modern age.

“Ireland just kept coming at them, wave after wave of attack but the All Blacks kept tackling, kept covering and eventually … Sam Whitelock pulled off the winning turnover and the glory was New Zealand’s.

“And how they deserved it. It was an epic game, one that showed why Ireland are the number one team in the world and New Zealand didn’t crack. They were like the All Blacks of old – assured in the big moments and able to withstand all sorts of pressure.”

He said the All Blacks had “too much resolve. That’s what it came down to – resilience and belief because neither side blinked and it was the bravery of New Zealand’s defence, their calm when they had the ball and their ability to convert their half chances which won it for them in the end.”

Liam Napier, also in the NZ Herald, declared “revenge is sweet for the All Blacks as they stride one step closer to their pursuit of cathartic World Cup redemption.

“The 78,000 at Stade de France – a sea of green and pockets of black – were treated to a class contest, one of the best in World Cup history, as Ireland and the All Blacks traded punch and counter punch amid a fever-pitch atmosphere that stretched well into added time.

“On that pinnacle stage the All Blacks proved their resilience and resolve to overcome the odds.

“Ireland have achieved historic feats under Andy Farrell that includes their maiden series win in New Zealand last year. As the All Blacks exacted revenge for that low point, they served a crushing blow to ensure Ireland’s hoodoo of never progressing past a World Cup quarter-final lives on.

Ardie Savea of New Zealand celebrates scoring his team’s second try during the Rugby World Cup France 2023 Quarter Final match between Ireland and New Zealand at Stade de France on October 14, 2023 in Paris, France. (Photo by Hannah Peters/Getty Images)

“In the context of this tournament, the All Blacks are underdogs no more.”

Michael Aylwin, in The Observer, compared the QF records of the nations.

“The agony goes on. Ireland must wonder what they have to do to break this quarter-final curse, how long to spend as No 1 in the world, how many grand slams to win, how many victories in a row,”he wrote.

“Instead, let the record state: eight quarter-finals, eight defeats. So much came to an end. Not just the dream of a World Cup semi-final; not just the career of Johnny Sexton, who wandered the pitch in tears at the end; not just a run of 17 consecutive Test wins, only one shy of the record held by England and, yes, these blessed All Blacks.

“And for the All Blacks the record reads: nine quarter-finals, eight wins. How New Zealand have suffered themselves of late, toppled for some time from their perch as the perennial champions of all things rugby union. This may not mean a return to the top for them just yet –although they must feel a semi-final against Argentina is eminently winnable – but that familiar precision, that doggedness in defence, that nose for victory has been regained.

“No one can deny they earned it. Few teams could have held out as they did through 37 phases of Irish attack at the death, the clock long turned red, exhausted runners coming at exhausted defenders from every which angle. Nothing doing. Sam Whitelock, the most capped All Black of all time, now often supporting his teammates from the bench, swooped to win the game’s last penalty, on this his 151st appearance.

“There was heroism everywhere in a fixture so enthralling it actually seemed to subdue by the end a Stade de France packed to the gunwales with Irish and Kiwis. But there could be no arguing with result, even if the teams ran and muscled tries past each other in equal measure, three apiece.”

Will Jordan and Aaron Smith of New Zealand celebrate following the team’s victory during the Rugby World Cup France 2023 Quarter Final match between Ireland and New Zealand at Stade de France on October 14, 2023 in Paris, France. (Photo by Chris Hyde/Getty Images)

Gavin Mairs, writing in the UK Telegraph praised the spirit of Andy Farrell’s Ireland.

“It will be of no consolation but they did not die wondering. The precision of their attack and ability to recycle in the most pressurised of situations was utterly compelling, and on several occasions appeared to exploit a weak point in the All Blacks defence,” he wrote.

“Ireland kept making metres but when it came to the white heat moment, New Zealand had the experience of Sam Whitelock to win the match-winning penalty

“It was a game so compelling and of such quality that it deserved to be the final. New Zealand’s reward is a semi-final against Argentina and they will now fancy their chances of going all the way. One wonders if Ireland will ever get such a chance again.”

Luke Baker, in the Independent, said this is “the greatest Ireland team of all time”but added: “Instead of being feted as the heroes to finally overcome that insurmountable obstacle, the Ireland players will still have to answer endless questions about the heavy burden of previous knockout failures and fans will endure at least four more years of choking jokes at their expense.”

Rúaidhrí O’Connor of the Irish Independent said Ireland was beaten by the better team.

“For another four years, the glass ceiling that hangs above Irish rugby remains,”he wrote.

“They got close enough to scratch it this time against New Zealand, but the fact they went down fighting will be little consolation to these players.

“The All Blacks needed a 37-phase defensive set in injury time to finally squeeze past them, Ireland going the length of the field into the end where Johnny Sexton had dropped his goal in 2018 but there was to be no fairytale end to the great out-half’s career as Sam Whitelock got over the ball to win it.

Bundee Aki of Ireland looks dejected at full-time following their team’s loss after the Rugby World Cup France 2023 Quarter Final match between Ireland and New Zealand at Stade de France on October 14, 2023 in Paris, France. (Photo by Hannah Peters/Getty Images)

“So, the winning run ends at the worst possible moment and, in truth, they were beaten by the better team on the night.

“That will haunt them. The All Blacks came with a plan and executed brilliantly. Joe Schmidt’s finger-prints were all over it as they won the breakdown battle and lorded it in the air.

“Ireland will rue their own lack of execution. Their lineout malfunctioned again, their scrum got on the wrong side of referee Wayne Barnes, their handling let them down at crucial moments.”

Stephen Jones of the Times has seen this story before.

“Not for the first time, an outstanding rugby team fell victim to the nous and pride of the All Blacks,” wrote Jones.

“The teams hardly compared with their recent form — Ireland were way ahead, encouraging the highest hopes, and the sensational setting last evening at the Stade de France had contained vast waves of expectation that Ireland would reach the semi-final simply as a prelude.

“But they did not, and were never really established in a winning position, for all their passion and effort. New Zealand brought with them the archetypal game plan to beat Ireland, with a range of clever kicks into space, a refusal to simply hoof every kick back from whence it came, and they also had the class in their attacking game to score when it became vital.

“Ireland probably had the majority of possession, and they let nobody down, but on the day they seemed to be up against a team who were tactically and probably technically superior, and Johnny Sexton at fly half simply could not conjure a winning score as the game went on and on.”

The Crowd Says:

2023-10-16T13:31:39+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


They certainly deserved to win the final - but a run of games against Canada, Namibia, Italy, Japan and Wales to get to a final (after the first game of the tournament) meant that no side has gone into a final as fresh and prepared as that Bok side. It would be a considerably better achievement to win it this time.

2023-10-16T13:28:18+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


Teams were free to ensure they didn't offend at the breakdown against that England side. I'm not sure why they did, because I'm reliably informed that they couldn't score tries.

2023-10-16T13:24:37+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


A catch attempt? Does Smith have suckers on the end of his fingers?

2023-10-16T13:23:52+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


It doesn't have to be a try-scoring opportunity - only a significant linebreak, which it most certainly was.

2023-10-16T13:21:55+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


:laughing: :laughing: If you have to identify with half the planet, you've got more issues than I thought.

2023-10-16T13:17:38+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


I hope you don't know what the figure '8' was all about, Jacko, because that would be an extraordinarily crass comment if you do.

2023-10-16T13:09:22+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


'...suggesting AB players, captains and coaches are ungracious cheats will do that.' There could, of course, have been some truth to the accusations. As a recent example, I'd like to know what the 'gracious' All Black said to Sexton after the whistle to fire him up like that. The charge against the Haka is less that it confers an 'unfair advantage' more that it is laced with a stunning sense of entitlement. Joe Marler had a dry reply when it was put to him about the AB 'humility' illustrated by their 'cleaning the dressing room.' 'Ah yes, you always know when a 'humble' AB has cleaned the dressing room, because he runs around telling everyone.' :happy:

2023-10-16T12:59:47+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: Yes, because you'd never get an Aussie or Saffa pressman saying something so cruel.

2023-10-16T12:57:53+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


I'd say you 'choked' twice. Once in 2007, where the pressure clearly affected decision-making. The other time, ironically, was the 2011 final that you won. I thought you were paralysed with fear that day and were very lucky to get away with it.

2023-10-16T12:56:03+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


The reason Ireland failed in the previous 7 QFs is because they were a bang average team. They are an excellent team now, which is why it will hurt. I also thought they moved away from what they do best for reasons one can only put down to pressure.

2023-10-16T12:54:35+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


I've never seen a RWC in which there are four absolutely top notch teams slugging it out, all of whom would be worthy winners.

2023-10-16T12:53:33+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


'I think the Brits are a bit envious of kiwis.' Do you? And your evidence is the vacuous questioning from a female reporter many years ago? I'm wondering who has the 'psychological issues.' :happy:

2023-10-16T12:49:20+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


I agree. Watch the first couple of minutes again and the ABs are all over the place. Normally, Ireland punishes that ruthlessly. But, they gave away a couple of silly penalties which conceded territory and calmed the ABs down. On such things to mighty games hinge.

2023-10-16T10:20:04+00:00

churchie11

Roar Rookie


The current law is what it is, and players know that. But it used to be a deliberate slap with a downward motion was needed for a penalty. A bit like the fact that there’s no such thing as an accidental head clash these days. Players have to adapt techniques. You can hate the law, but if the refs just officiate it that way, its hard to blame them.

2023-10-16T10:16:03+00:00

churchie11

Roar Rookie


Agree Chucked. Sexton was just shoveling it on and hoping someone outside him would do something. The All Blacks have been criticized for not employing a rush defence, and shutting down the options. However, they were happy to give Sexton some space as he never threatened them with running. That way they were able to contain the wider threats - part from Ali’s try. At the end they were prepared to do the same, be patient, stay onside, not give away a penalty, and hunt for the turnover.

2023-10-16T05:18:14+00:00

Colvin Brown

Roar Guru


Haha, c'mon OB, we're just pulling your leg. In fact, I'm not sure I like One-Eyed OB so much as a name. I prefer cantankerous OB, and in fact I like cantankerous OB so much I'm thinking I should use it myself. Kinda like cantankerous old fossil. But if I did of course, I would seek your permission first. Most of us agree with you that it was offensive calling the ABs chokers, just because we lost an occasional match. But the Brits who started it just wanted to get under our skin. Because I considered it offensive being directed towards us, I'm against calling any team chokers; we don't need to lower ourselves to that level. I think the Brits are a bit envious of kiwis. I remember years ago ABs great Wayne Shelford was being quizzed by a young Brit TV host on "why do we do the haka?" trying to uncover what advantage we get. Wayne replied politely explaining culture, challenge etc, but she kept on and her last question was along the lines of "what will you do if we disrespect it?" Wayne looked at her and replied with what might have been a faint smile on his face, "we'd eat you". That shut her up.

2023-10-16T03:10:06+00:00

piru

Roar Rookie


By the law but this knockdown is the dumbest law in rugby. It is absolutely farcical that a poor pass gives an opposition player 10 minutes in the sin bin. With you on that one, by the way it's not even a law, it's a dubious interpretation of two separate laws combined. We could get rid of this nonsense tomorrow with a simple email

2023-10-15T23:51:59+00:00

Bluffboy

Roar Rookie


:boxing: :boxing: :boxing:

2023-10-15T22:52:20+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


I dont think any of the top sides backs off JN.

2023-10-15T21:43:38+00:00

Stu

Roar Rookie


@Bluffboy : Mate, it’s my genuine pleasure to recognise and acknowledge NZ Rugby’s ongoing excellence and magnificent service to the game. SOUTH AFRICA FTW!!! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

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