Is a sold out Sydney derby the spark that sets the A-League alight?

By Kitwally / Roar Rookie

This Saturday night’s derby between Sydney FC – coming off a 5-1 “new coach bounce” victory over Adelaide United – against the impressive, undefeated top of the table Western Sydney Wanderers should be a cracking match at a sold out Allianz stadium.

Back in 2016 we saw 61,880 people turn out at Accor Stadium for the A-League’s record crowd, but in recent years spectators have not been anywhere near that. Most of Sydney FC’s 20,000 members and many of the casual fans should be out in force on Saturday night, but will Western Sydney Wanderers’ fans and the Red and Black Bloc turn up in big numbers?

Some of these fans still feel aggrieved at the management of both the A-League and Wanderers for various reasons and are not attending Western Sydney’s games, with crowd numbers well down in recent years.

Western Sydney Wanderers’ Lachlan Brook celebrates a goal with team mates. (Photo by Brendon Thorne/Getty Images)

Before the addition of Western Sydney Wanders to the A-League in 2012, the biggest match and biggest crowds were for “The Big Blue” between Melbourne Victory versus Sydney FC, especially when it was played in Melbourne.

Victory had the most members and got the biggest crowds. In a similar vein to Wanderers, Victory crowds are down with fans disgruntled with both their club’s and the A-Leagues’ administration, coming to a head last year with that infamous pitch invasion and violence from some of Melbourne Victory’s so-called fans.

After three losses in a row against Melbourne Victory, Brisbane Roar, and Melbourne City, conceding seven goals without scoring to start the season, Sydney FC’s management sacked Steve Corica and brought back former Sydney assistant coach and former Wellington Phoenix coach Ufuk Talay.

This immediately had the desired effect, a 5-1 victory over Adelaide United, although Adelaide were without suspended wunderkind Nestory Irankunda. Up until that match Adelaide were undefeated, scoring ten and conceding just once.

Joe Lolley has consistently been Sydney’s best player in every match so far season and he had a fantastic game against Adelaide with two goals and two assists. Sydney’s 21 year old forward Jaiden Kucharski scored a well-taken brace. Sydney FC also welcome back defender Jordan Courtney Perkins from Olyroos duties in Saudi Arabia.

Sydney FC’s Rhyan Grant celebrates in front of the Wanderers bench at full-time of the 2023 Elimination Final. (Photo by Brendon Thorne/Getty Images)

Western Sydney Wanders have started their season with a scoreless draw with Wellington Phoenix at home, followed by an impressive 5-0 home win over Western United, a 2-2 draw away at Newcastle Jets and a 2-0 win over Perth Glory at home. The always dangerous Brandon Borello, back from national team duty, is yet to score but has two assists to his name. WSW have had seven different players on the scoresheet, with Lachie Brook – back from recently scoring for the Olyroos – and Nicholas Milanovic with two goals each.

Marko Rudan and Ufuk Talay were teammates at Sydney FC for two seasons, they were roommates, and are great mates. At a press conference earlier today Rudan had this to say: “We’re not going to stop playing our game. We’re going to come here and attack. We’re playing differently than last year as well and we want to put teams on the back foot and go at teams and nothing’s going to change irrespective of the opposition and where we’re playing.”

Talay said: “We’ve come off a great win against Adelaide and there was a good two weeks to build on that and I’m looking forward to the challenge. It’s another game for us, it’s a derby, and I think it keeps the players focused leading into this game.”

Last season saw both teams win two matches each, with both teams unusually winning away from home. In this 36th Sydney Derby will Sydney FC continue their new coach bounce, or will Western Sydney Wanderers maintain their unbeaten streak and stay at the top of the table?

The Crowd Says:

2023-11-26T06:39:49+00:00

Alan

Roar Rookie


28152 to be exact - that's a very good crowd in relation to the rest of the A Leagues and shows their is potential. Sadly, when you look at the other games crowds are very low. More importantly we dont get a real picture of how many fans are engaging via TV etc. Well TV we know ratings are low on TEN. Paramount + doesnt say much which makes me feel they arent getting record number of people viewing the matches. TEN won't renew if they dont get a return on their investment. I am not negative in saying that - simple Business. No one wants to think that TEN wont dump something if they feel they arent getting a return on their $. They are already the fourth placed network so their Add money is way down the list. AdvertIsing on TEN much cheaper than 7 and 9 because fewer watching. Positives - a good crowd last night.

2023-11-25T23:26:38+00:00

Chris Lewis

Roar Guru


28,000 last night. Good to see. Good match.

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2023-11-25T02:41:16+00:00

Kitwally

Roar Rookie


Absolutely Chris. I saw even Foxsports has a very short video about the derby tonight.

2023-11-25T01:10:42+00:00

Chris Lewis

Roar Guru


yep, the few big games that attract good crowds are important to keep attention on the A-League.

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2023-11-24T05:05:46+00:00

Kitwally

Roar Rookie


Thanks for your comment Limo. Is it a negative headline or just a realistic one? I’m not a fan of the NRL, but they don’t get just a few thousand people to their games like many A-League matches do. If there’s a crowd of over 40,000 plus tomorrow night - and in what looks like rain - that’s a huge boost for the A-Leagues. You’ve got those 40,000 plus spectators having a better match day experience and talking about the game, more media interest, a better look for the tv broadcast to name just a few of the benefits.

2023-11-24T04:37:49+00:00

Limo

Roar Rookie


Why do we continuously get negative headlines if we get a crowd the whole competition might light up? When was the last time such a negative headline was ever applied to an NRL game? Answer is never...

2023-11-24T03:31:36+00:00

Rodger King

Roar Rookie


This match, along with the Big Blue and the F3 Derby, are what real A League fans thrive on. Regardless of who does or doesn't turn up, the match should be a beauty. SFC have found some confidence, thanks to AUFC [Always putting others first, a selfless group are the REDS] but in all honesty, they weren't that good and AUFC weren't much cop that night. The RnB Hoops should win.

2023-11-24T03:11:28+00:00

Garry

Roar Rookie


You are right Grant plays more as a winger but the point is I see Brattan as part of the problem. If FB’s go forward part of the cover is by the midfielders. I think Caceres generally does a great job getting around the field but not Brattan. Watching Brattan turn to retreat is like watching a cargo ship turn. Additionally he’s quite often caught dwelling on the ball these days.

2023-11-24T02:38:06+00:00

chris1

Roar Rookie


Garry, Grant is not really a defender and is more a winger than full back. That's ok if you have a good defensive central pairing who communicate well with their backline to slide and drop and cover etc when Grant bombs forward. But I don't see that. I see huge holes in our back 4 when he pushes forward and teams counter. Corica probably should have instructed Grant to be more defensive whilst the central pairing were adjusting. Too late now I know!

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2023-11-24T01:46:51+00:00

Kitwally

Roar Rookie


Are there any members of WSW or the RBB that can explain what the actual grievances are? I’ve reached out to both groups and haven’t received a response. I think there is an article there waiting to be written.

2023-11-24T01:42:56+00:00

Garry

Roar Rookie


Im thinking the brazilian CB is settling in now and King will be back who gets back quicker. My worry is the other side..Im still heavily for dropping Brattan ( for Burgess who is much more mobile) ) as the Brattan/Grant combo leaves gaps behind them. Ins: 23. Rhyan GRANT (return from personal leave), 24. Wataru KAMIJO (promoted) Outs: Nil Unavailable: 6. Jack RODWELL (injured), 22. Max BURGESS (injured), 28. Nathan AMANATIDIS (injured)” ”

2023-11-24T01:39:36+00:00

Garry

Roar Rookie


I certainly hope we get a bumper crowd :happy: but my worry is the weather..those extra fans tend to be fickle and rain is the norm for Sydney atm!! :crying:

2023-11-23T21:52:03+00:00

chris1

Roar Rookie


It's good to see SFC going into this match full of confidence. Wanderers are dangerous and have goals in them. I'm not overly confident in our back 4 so will be interesting to see how they cope with Wanderers mobility. Should be a cracking atmosphere (although rain is predicted).

2023-11-23T21:46:05+00:00

Limo

Roar Rookie


Can't wait for this exciting match...expecting Mak and Lolleyto fire up big time! The atmosphere will be electric!

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