Rugby News: Cane urges All Blacks rethink on OS stars, rugby's shocking death threat problem exposed

By The Roar / Editor

All Blacks captain Sam Cane wants New Zealand Rugby to review their eligibility rules, with the Kiwis set to be affected by overseas contracts next year.

Cane and Ardie Savea will remain eligible for the national team after contracted sabbaticals in Japan but there are others who will be missing out on selection, such as World Cup starter Richie Mounga.

Aaron Smith and Brodie Retallick have also joined clubs in Japan and are unlikely to represent their country again, while the same situation faces Leicester Fainga’anuku who moved to France with Toulon.

Other Kiwis who have left for Japan include flanker Shannon Frizell and Beauden Barrett.

Cane is concerned that South Africa allows players to represent the Springboks and play in Japan while New Zealand does not.

“A lot of the Springboks have shown the ability to play in League One and go back to international rugby fairly quickly and continue to play their best,” Cane said at media conference in Tokyo.

South Africa’s Rugby World Cup final winning team included Japan based Kwagga Smith, Faf de Klerk, Jesse Kriel and Pieter-Steph du Toit. Cheslin Kolbe has signed alongside Cane at Sungoliath.

“I think the challenge for us guys on shorter term deals will be returning [home] in the hope of playing international rugby again,” Cane said.

“If we play well here and get back, should the opportunity to represent the All Blacks again, that we can show that we’ve improved our games.

“If we can do that, then maybe the conversation can be had at New Zealand Rugby.”

Of course New Zealand aren’t the only nation affected by the issue as the international game begins to grapple with changing circumstances, including the rise of player strength going to Japan.

England are grappling with a decision over some of their internationals – including Henry Arundell, who has been in stunning form for Racing 92.

He’s in France because his English club London Irish went into administration.

The Rugby Football Union has applied its exceptional circumstances loophole to ensure he is available to play for England in the Six Nations early in 2024 but it appears he won’t be available for England’s tour of Japan and New Zealand unless he signs with an English club.

Change at the top in Australia will also see focus come back on the Giteau Law. Hamish McLennan and Eddie Jones opted for a fluid interpretation but the new leadership team of Dan Herbert and Phil Waugh are expected to favour a tighter rein on overseas based players representing Australia – especially with the lure of a Lions tour in 2025.

World Cup TMO details death threats

Tom Foley has become the latest World Cup referee to reveal he attracted death threats from fans after the final.

Foley was the TMO for the game win 12-11 by South Africa in Paris.

As World Rugby reported more than 2,000 direct threats against match officials in recent weeks, and final ref Wayne Barnes has revealed his own issues, Foley said it was not fair tat he had to warn his children’s school about potential threats.

Foley told the BBC that comments and messages he had received included threats to hunt him down, and hopes he would die in a car crash.

He would like to see social media users having to provide identification so they can be pursued if they overstep the line.

“You can’t hide behind this faceless façade. It’s cowardice. It’s complete cowardice,” Foley says.

“They wouldn’t say it to you in the street. So why do they feel that they can say it online?”

Meanwhile Springbok halfback Cobus Reinach has detailed the level of abuse he received during the tournament.

Cobus Reinach. (Photo by Xavier Laine/Getty Images)

Deaths threats against him following his words of support for Ben O’Keeffe after the quarterfinal win over France, were revealed during the tournament by Rassie Erasmus.

Reinach told L’Equipe: “I said after the match that the referee had been good under pressure, which led to me receiving many messages.

“The first message concerned me directly, telling me not to come back to Montpellier, otherwise I would be killed.

“Then it started to concern my family. People, behind their keyboards, who can attack your family. They are not the ones making decisions on the field or playing against your team, so clearly, this crosses the line.”

Reinach also stressed he had received support from some French fans.

“I don’t want to dwell on it because the French have been incredible, but this online harassment, which is from a minority, must stay out of this game,” he said.

Suaalii full steam ahead

Rugby Australia CEO Phil Waugh has confirmed there is no intention of backing out of the deal to sign Joseph Suaalii from rugby league – and tipped he could go straight into the Waolabies set up for the Spring Tour next year.

“We’re committed to Joseph, he’s coming in in November, hopefully, for the spring tour [next year],” Waugh told the Sydney Morning Herald. “We need to deliver on what we say we’re going to deliver on – and that’s a big part of it.”

If Suaalii is picked for the tour it means he won’t have played Super Rugby in the lead up – with his contract with the Roosters due to expire at the end of the 2024 NRL season – unless there is a change of heart and he’s allowed to leave early.

The Crowd Says:

2023-12-12T23:43:41+00:00

Footy Franks

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Super is finished NZ players want to play overseas in proper club competitions, ie with spectators.

2023-12-02T11:04:03+00:00

Cec

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I don’t think there’s a solution where everyone is happy. TMO only coming in when called and complaints will be made on missed calls; but if TMO is always involved then he’s “too involved”. Remember that TMO was created as supposedly too many “crucial calls” were missed. I think wind back the TMO to when the Ref calls for him and just accept mistakes happen in every game.

2023-12-01T23:40:37+00:00

Jacko

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Lawrence, Berry just to name 2. There are plenty and your tiresome "its all NZs fault" Bs is dumb. If Barnes is hated on its because he is useless, incompetent, biased. he has proven it by stating how Henry upset him about the 2007 match comments. Actual proof Barnes was biased against NS.

2023-12-01T13:07:18+00:00

Bliksem

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Making a video is not a crime.

2023-12-01T10:32:41+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

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Its not veiled and it is not ill informed. What ref before Barnes had a witch hunt made by a countries media and egged on by the players. It was such a big story because it had been the first time this had happened in rugby on this scale in the professional game. As I have stated in 2011 Barnes went to the bathroom of a Bar while a ref for World Rugby at the world cup. He saw his head in the urinal and some unsavory comments. He said it was a shock to him but he didn't care. If it had been his son who saw it I think he would have cared alot more. As per the article on the Roar Henry stated in 2012 in his book that Barnes should be investigated for match fixing based on the 2007 WC match involving NZ. That is worse than Rassie's 1 hour video and he just said the ref was wrong he didn't state the ref had broken the law of the land. NZ has a problem with losing that no other nation seems to have and refs get more abuse when reffing a game in which NZ loses than any other nation. We have now seen it mover from the ref to the coach and soon it will be the players. Once the AB players start getting the abuse refs get after a loss maybe then the NZR will take action. My view is that Unions should be held accountable for their fans like they are in soccer and start fining the unions.

2023-12-01T10:24:12+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

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Thanks for setting me straight. So England win its the refs fault. NZ lose its the refs fault. Got it

2023-12-01T08:47:04+00:00

Jacko

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Canes is only a sabatical tho and he is still signed to NZR. Thats the big difference.

2023-12-01T08:44:51+00:00

Jacko

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Mark Hinton had a good article in STUFF today too. People demanding it have no idea of the effects.

2023-12-01T08:06:15+00:00

KFar

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Look at all the Pacifica players choosing to represent their country or birth at the RWC and also getting the bigger money that Europe or Japan can offer. I think it's great. Has certainly made the league world cup alot more entertaining.

2023-12-01T08:03:04+00:00

KFar

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It will slowly some in, sooner than you think. It will be more controlled, not like other teams it Australia and SA. There will be a set amount of caps (like the Geitau law), but will allow one forward and one back that can be selected from overseas.

2023-12-01T06:52:07+00:00

fiwiboy7042

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Yep, Mounga can stay in Japan now. Door has closed on him.

2023-12-01T06:48:45+00:00

fiwiboy7042

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This raises the question of the nature of the TMO's involvement. Does he get involved only when the ref is called in or is he involved all the time? If it's the later then he will be talking into the ref's ear and that would be a distraction, to say the least.

2023-12-01T02:04:41+00:00

Peta Smith

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@ Bliksem, you blame everyone else except your beloved Rassie?! Your argument loses validity…talk about “selective memory” eh, Colvin?!?! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

2023-12-01T01:57:29+00:00

Peta Smith

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Another “veiled” ill-informed comment from you Brendan, tr0ll much?!

2023-12-01T01:54:39+00:00

Peta Smith

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@Bliksem, Rassie made himself the scapegoat, stop making excuses for him. Rassie made the video, no one else…he’s owned it, time you do too.

2023-11-30T23:28:54+00:00

Muzzo

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Let’s be honest Bliksem! How often does World Rugby get it right??? Even back to the Rassie affair, that alone was a major stuff up by them not being able to handle the situation, so they call in an independent committee to pass judgment! How p..s weak is that, especially from a ruling body? Even not doing their jobs properly is so noticeable in them just throwing certain rulings out there for others to rectify, as has happened.

2023-11-30T22:49:17+00:00

Jacko

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Coaches and captains are in my view the leaders and therefore the custodians of rugby union. Add in officials too. Barnes is an official of the game but wants to be the star. Being the traditional ref role doesnt allow him the status he demands. Famous people get a lot of media attention both good and bad. He constantly tries to make himself famous so thats him choosing the attention. Then its him whinging about the attention.

2023-11-30T09:12:14+00:00

Bliksem

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Shamelessly bashed Henry Jacko? If you play with the big boys you must be prepared to take as much as what you give. If you read Graham Henry Final Word and The Real McCaw, you will understand why Barnes had to tell his side of the story in Wayne Barnes Book: The Life and Career of The World's Most Experienced Rugby Referee to set the record straight.

2023-11-30T08:42:35+00:00

Jacko

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How can the RFU control their rabbit fans like yourself?

2023-11-30T08:40:59+00:00

Jacko

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It happened before that. How else did England win a WC in 2003. I remember the England team whinging on the 98 series. Also well remember the whinging over the Ireland player on the lions series.

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