'Be useful': how unrivalled discipline and work rate is lifting the Reds to new heights

By John Ferguson / Expert

The Queensland Reds’ victory over competition favourites the Chiefs was the third consecutive game where they improved, and this consistency of performance speaks volumes of Les Kiss’ coaching ethos.

The culture being grown at Ballymore is one of unyielding workrate – or as tighthead prop Zane Nonggorr told Stan Sport in Saturday’s post-match, Kiss requires players to ‘be useful’.

It paints the picture of a team who is determined to outwork their opponents.

The consistency of results, against more difficult opposition each week shows the team can is continuously evolving and implementing the weekend’s lessons into their upcoming game.

What makes their steady growth more impressive is they’ve done it with significant personnel changes.

Everyone appears to be across the detail, from attacking shape to ruck and defence principles.

Although the results have been encouraging, facing two of the competition’s best teams in the Hurricanes and Chiefs back-to-back explains why the Reds’ stats are solid but not groundbreaking.

A tackling average of 85 per cent and a ruck success rate of 95 per cent gives them a good base with room for improvement.

However, what is eye catching is the average 75 gain line carries per game and a lower penalty rate than their opponents.

The penalty numbers are very impressive. They conceded eight against the Waratahs, 10 against the Hurricanes and only five against the Chiefs. Conversely, those teams racked up 10, 14 and 10 respectively.

The Reds are the least penalised side in the competition.

Queensland Reds celebrate victory over the Chiefs. (Photo by Albert Perez/Getty Images)

This stat alone illustrates how much the team has changed in just a few months, because at times throughout 2023 they were pinged off the park.

This incredible discipline means the Reds’ opponents can’t alleviate pressure through the Reds’ infringements and that relentless pressure is playing a key role in the Queenslander’s success.

The other standout stat is the gain line carries, where they are well ahead of the other Australian teams.

The closest Aussie team is the Brumbies on 63, while the Waratahs are down on 54 and the others strewn somewhere in between.

The Reds are on par with the Chiefs, and only have the Drua, Hurricanes and Blues sitting ahead of them on 77, 81 and 87 respectively.

Yet, looking at their team, especially their forward pack on paper, they’re not a side that screams ‘gain line metres’ but that’s what Kiss and co.’s hard work has led to.

Against the Chiefs they found weak shoulders after creating space across the park.

Sweeping backline plays off set-piece with simple out the back balls and flat line running saw the Reds find space on the edges.

What is most pleasing and perhaps most frustrating for skills coach Jonathan Fisher and Kiss is that; had the ball been caught in the second snippet, Jock Campbell would likely have scored.

Then looking at the first and third snippet in the clip above, had halfback Tate McDermott and flyhalf Tom Lynagh hit Campbell in both instances and the ball not go to ground, a line break would’ve been made and a try would’ve been a possibility.

This slight lack of execution probably buoys Kiss and Fisher, knowing that if they can get those shapes right, they could be putting a couple more tries on some of the best defences in the competition.

Subsequently, when the Reds can generate front-foot ball, Lynagh is able to play on-top of the opposition.

Having the opposition back-peddling means it’s harder to get around the corner and this stretches defences.

The Reds can play two or three simple phases and land in a 15-metre channel on either side.

By stacking Harry Wilson or Seru Uru in these channels they have created a mismatch, one that will draw the attention of a defender in a way a back wouldn’t.

The pair also happen to have some of the silkiest hands in the team and can offload or pass to put their teammates into space in these close quarters.

In the first snippet, the Reds are on the back foot but are in their cherished 15m channel. McDermott throws a flat, short, cut-out pass to Josh Flook, and they make 20 metres before spilling the ball.

Then in the second snippet, McDermott once again skip-passes Wilson and with a quick tip-on from Fraser McReight puts Suliasi Vunivalu away for a line break, then Wilson and McReight link up to score the try.

‘A pass will always beat the man’ is a favourite line of most age group coaches, and the Reds are only throwing five or six metre cut outs as opposed to big 10 metre ones.

This short pass beats the drift defence while the overload of numbers fixes the outnumbered blind sides, it also provides the wide carrier with an easy gain line carry on a weak shoulder.

However, neither of these come off without the effort done by the players without the ball.

Mac Grealy is the left winger and carries onto the 15m line on the right edge.

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Similarly, Wilson hits one ruck in the build-up then runs an 20m arcing run to create the overlap that keeps the Chief’s defence from drifting.

While the support lines of Wilson, McReight and McDermott are innate to those individuals, support lines have proven to be a big part of what the Reds are working on.

The system standards appear rigorous, but there is room for fluidity which charges individuals with responsibility to make the required efforts when faced with certain structures.

‘Being useful’ could also mean giving 100 per cent effort and that’s exactly what is happening.

Jeff Toomaga-Allen celebrates Queensland’s Super Rugby Pacific win over the Chiefs. (Photo by Albert Perez/Getty Images)

Co-captain Liam Wright, lock Ryan Smith and openside flanker McReight are competition leading in attacking rucks hit with 34, 32 and 31 respectively.

This is a mammoth effort but also lays bare the work that is going into putting ballers like Wilson in space – it doesn’t just happen.

While they can’t claim they are the biggest pack, they are the hardest working, and forwards coach Zane Hilton would be pleased how his entire team are going about the tough stuff at breakdown time.

A change of coaching structure is allowing the team to reach its potential and as laid out, they have not yet reached their ceiling.

Mistakes from set-piece, in general play and a defensive record which needs to improve by four or so per cent are all evidence of this.

The Reds are working exceptionally hard to stay on this upwards trajectory and as long as there is no burnout and the discipline remains, they could be in for their best year since winning Super Rugby AU in 2021.

The Crowd Says:

2024-03-15T06:22:39+00:00

Old school rugby

Roar Rookie


There are a couple more I would add in. Let’s just get to halfway through the season. McReight and Bell are ticks from me.

2024-03-15T00:40:26+00:00

numpty

Roar Rookie


Wilson has a very high work rate in D, but he chops more than puts on big physical hits. Once again probably better in the loose then in tight or as a shooter. Valetini better in the ruck in terms of disrupting and counterrucking, although im unsure how they compare in terms of number of rucks hit. I believe the reds backrow are comp leading in number of attacking rucks hit but thats probably a reflection of their high possession game more than anything... I guess wilson could play a similar role to what samu played off the bench for rennie. I think there are plenty of options across frost, Lukhan, Holloway, Wilson, McReight, Valetini where you can field a great team and get them all impacting the game. If you want harry starting, you could have holloway at 6 and then move him into the 2nd row and bring valetini off the bench. Ideally you'd like fraser and wilson playing together as much as possible, particularly with tate likely to start at 9.

2024-03-15T00:27:28+00:00

numpty

Roar Rookie


Rare these days for a SR coach to double as a wallabies assistant, too much work for one person. Hopefully he finds someone good to do the role. Jim Mckay, Berrick Barnes, Scott Wisemantel all in aus as far as I'm aware...

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2024-03-15T00:23:49+00:00

John Ferguson

Expert


I think Wilson can fit into a Wallaby backrow but only if he addresses the defensive side as well as the ruck work. Otherwise he may be a good bench player provided their are workhorses aroun him. I am not sure on what Valetini's ruck hitting stats are but I think his talent is in the carry, being direct.

2024-03-15T00:05:29+00:00

numpty

Roar Rookie


Yes, they combine well and I wouldn't hate that combo being picked at test level, but I'd fear its a touch on the small side. Jed holloway and valetini can do similar (not the same) jobs to wright and wilson but with added physicality/size. Tough decision to make... Glad I'm not the head coach.

2024-03-14T23:32:10+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


I never said I expect the same progress. However if Wilson and McReight were selected for the wallabies then of course I would expect the same sneaky flick passes. Remember Schmidt is allowed to select combinations. Finally wallaby players are together for as many games as super rugby players in a year. Of course players from the same team in super rugby who are in the wallabies would play the most together. I think 2 months a year for wallabies is not right , it is too low. Just on test match fixtures they have tests in July, August, September and then the Northern tour in November. The training camps, before and in between. So Wallaby players spend a lot of time together in a year with time to work on patterns and combos.

2024-03-14T23:26:52+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


This is why L Wright with his high rate of ruck work compliments Wilson and McReight

2024-03-14T23:04:11+00:00

numpty

Roar Rookie


I remember wilson streaking down the far touchside in bledisloe 1, game 1, half 1 of rennie's tenure multiple times in that game that ended 16 all. Agree re the collision ideology and what harry can and cannot do. As others have said, he seems better as a second phase carrier, a player who runs at gaps, not straight into the teeth of the D. I still don't know how to fit him into a balanced wallaby backrow and how to put the jigsaw together with the likes of valetini, holloway, mcreight etc. If you can get those hard carries from elsewhere (tupou, kerevi, bell, skelton), well then maybe you can fit wilson in at the expense of valetini. But agree, who does the ruck work? If he can learn to counter ruck/maul well, I think he would be a world 15 player...

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2024-03-14T22:46:54+00:00

John Ferguson

Expert


I think on Wilson, if you go back and watch his 2020 games against the ABs, Rennie used him in a similar vain as Kiss is now, in the 15s where he is allowed to find mismathces and put others in space with offloads is his gamestyle. Rennie later moved to a collision heavy ideology, although not wrong, it didn't suit Wilson. I think Schmidt will porbably require a little more attacking ruck work and defensive starch from him if he is to be picked, because otherwise he is ace!

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2024-03-14T22:26:11+00:00

John Ferguson

Expert


I think it's more a question of where do we not have the potential to be world class in a good system? Second row is where we lack punch with the injury cloud over Rodda and no real tight head lock to add punch. We have atheltic and tall but still too youthful. Skelton likley won't feature for the Wales tests and Georgia but perhaps the back end of the championship. We need that punch and size. Apart from that, the inlcusion of Cooper, Foley and Koroibete depends on whether the players here show enough, as he himself as said if it's a 60-40 to the overseas people, he will likley still choose home based talent.

2024-03-14T21:48:41+00:00

numpty

Roar Rookie


You're not wrong, but my sense from most coaches etc in those environments is that they seem to prioritise the players being in an environment they enjoy over being overly strict. I think there must be enough research out there now to suggest teams work better when they're happy rather than just grabbing a bigger stick so to speak. There is a huge 'mantra' (don't like that word), from people in those circles to 'enjoy/celebrate your wins' which is why DC and the tahs were more than happy to have a few beers after the saders win I think. And then another classic cliche, 'onto the next' and they would've been back on the tools the next day.

2024-03-14T21:42:07+00:00

Bentnuc

Roar Pro


Yeh good call. Wouldnt be an LSL fan myself but that’s probably because of his time with the reds and wals where I thought he was severely overrated. Maybe things have changed. Haven’t really noticed hum much this year. Do ya reckon Schimdt will bring in any os players? Kinda hope he doesn’t

2024-03-14T21:39:56+00:00

numpty

Roar Rookie


I'm not saying schmidt can't make progress, but if you expect miracles you're gonna be disappointed. Compare the time wilson has spent with mcreight at the reds - what 5 years now day in day out versus their time in the wallabies ~ 2 months a year max with players and systems that are changing. I think its unfair to expect the same progress. Wilson wasn't even in the camp last year from memory so its been ~2 years or more since he has played with the likes of valetini, holloway etc. You can't expect them to be able to do sneaky flick pass blindside plays that rely on instinct after two weeks. I've read elsewhere shcmidt is rolling down structures to SR clubs now, so hopefully that'll help reduce the time needed for familiarity with his systems.

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2024-03-14T21:37:42+00:00

John Ferguson

Expert


I think one of the best things I have heard from an Australian coach in the last year is Laurie Fisher saying "the players must know what good and acceptable looks like" when talking about standards and getting everyone in the squad across detail. I think this is Kiss' ethos as well, give a non-convaluded concept to the players but be very clear with what success looks like. The Reds attack is evdently built on simple maneuvers that have been clearly outlined and explained. Very exciting to see how they progress in terms of gelling.

2024-03-14T21:36:00+00:00

Derek Murray

Roar Rookie


I watched the Force match and can’t argue. An anonymous performance in a generally poor Brumbies’ outing

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2024-03-14T21:34:34+00:00

John Ferguson

Expert


They are also not complex, it is very "Irish" in the sense they plug a lot of bodies in tight spacs and execute two metre passes once a defender has committed to the others. With Toolan and Fisher joining Schmidt's coaching set-up as skills and defence coaches respectively, perhaps all that is missing is Les Kiss as a attack coach? The Reds don't have one currenlty, and is likely a role covered by Kiss and Jonathan Fisher jointly at the Reds. Irish connection with Schmidt, Toolan, Nucefora and Horne? Surely it only makes sense?

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2024-03-14T21:30:00+00:00

John Ferguson

Expert


I think the second row selections for 2024 will be interesting. Frost and Hooper have proved as an underwhelming partnership. Frost however has impressed at times. Lukhan SL has been solid and tough so has Neville, Canham and Smith have shown workrate, Williams as well is a bit more abrasive. So, with that in mind. Perhaps in 2025 Amatosero will have grown into his body and be an option. Perhaps the six locks on the shortlist should be: Lukhan, Frost, Smith, Canham, Neville, Skelton? Lukhan can cover 6 as well.

2024-03-14T21:17:05+00:00

Old school rugby

Roar Rookie


Ikitau needs to step up. I haven’t seen anything this season that guarantees a position.

2024-03-14T19:32:41+00:00

Redbeard

Roar Rookie


Ok discipline and work rate is on the rise; next I want my Reds to be precise and clinical. (Please thank you, Les)

2024-03-14T16:59:59+00:00

scrum

Roar Rookie


Players are not robots, they are people with normal emotions. It’s a simple fact that like it or not alcohol consumption has been part of societies forever. To put unpopular and unrealistic demands on people is counterproductive. An environment, especially in team sports, where people are happy is essential. Applying standards some would consider harsh is counterproductive.

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