Defences absent as Dessie's Titans go 0-6, while Seibold's Manly show just how far they still have to go

By Mike Meehall Wood / Editor

Manly have snuck home against the Titans in a wild game on the Gold Coast, running out 34-30 winners on a night in which, for most of the contest, defending was entirely optional.

It was only in the final quarter, when handling became optional, that the scoring slowed down, leaving both coaches exasperated.

There was a huge external narrative going in, with Des Hasler currently engaged in litigation against Manly, but as soon as the whistle blew, it was clear that any tension that might have lingered between the previous coach and the new bloke wouldn’t have any bearing on the game at all.

“They’re trying really hard. I’ve got to state that publicly,” said Hasler..

“The effort is there. But it’s not appearing on the scoreboard, nor is it appearing on the ladder. No one remembers this game, just the result and where we are.”

There was no intensity to speak of. It was basketball-esque, you-score-we-score.

The Titans threatened to win last week against Canberra and were aggrieved to just get a draw, whereas Manly did actually get a draw and were a little aggrieved not to win.

That could be seen as a form line, but shouldn’t be: neither side played well today.

Manly might think that, at the very least, they were poor and won.

It’s no good, however, reserving your best for the best and then turning up in games that a team with pretensions at the top four should win and playing like this.

Anthony Seibold has managed to get his side up for victories over Penrith and the Roosters on raucous nights at Brookvale Oval, but stumbled in a similarly defensively shaky game at Parramatta and a total disaster against the Dragons. At least, on this occasion, they got the points.

“We came here tonight without guys like Josh Aloiai, Nathan Brown, Tof Sipley and Benny Trbojevic so there was a big hole in our forward pack,” said the Manly coach.

“It wasn’t going to be pretty. We just had to find a way, and we found a way.”

The Titans just look at themselves, like they always do, and wonder how effective they might be if they could even half defend. They scored 30 points and lost.

Where was the tackling?

It’s hard to describe the standard of defending in the first half in a manner that is suitable for a family website, but suffice to say, it wasn’t good.

Kieran Foran was excellent with the ball and Tom Trbojevic went alright too, but they’ll have faced more resistance getting off the bus than they did playing down the edges here.

Brian Kelly and Reuben Garrick seemed to be having a competition about who could misread more runs.

For the first try, Kelly followed Garrick, shooting to entirely the wrong location and missing one of the game’s premier ballrunners in the process, with Turbo strolling over.

Against any other team, you’d be looking for an obstruction, but for the Titans, it’s just another day.

Having shot and missed, he decided to hold and miss instead, failing to engage Luke Brooks, leaving Lofi Khan-Pereira high and dry against a much bigger man in Jason Saab.

That said, Manly’s edge also took the first half off, with first Saab then Garrick making horrendous defensive decisions to allow the Titans right back into it.

No worries: Jojo Fifita dropped the ball, the right edge defence collapsed again and Haumole Olakau’atu got over.

No worries again, the Titans added two more, one a dummy half charge from David Fifta and another a reverse kick that saw AJ Brimson outleap Trbojevic.

It was that type of game. In the whole first half, the score beat the clock – 46 points – and every try had come to the near side of the posts, the Titans left, Manly right.

These are sides who are certainly better at attacking than defending, but on the first half, that wouldn’t be hard because neither showed any intensity whatsoever.

Manly scored 22 points without even pretending to play well. Brimson’s try was a brilliant individual effort, but it was perhaps the only one from the eight scored that wasn’t directly as a result of bad defence.

While the two sides had been helping each other obliquely in the first half, Tanah Boyd decided to be far more direct in the second, throwing an intercept for Tolu Koula that could have been sent by carrier pigeon.

Brimson and Foran did get the Titans back in front again, only for the defence to collapse to cede the lead back to Manly as Ethan Bullemor crashed under the posts.

That was the seventh lead change of the game.

Are you not entertained?

There’s a wider point about what constitutes a good game of rugby league. In 2021, we learned that all out attack wasn’t actually that great, especially when the games weren’t close.

This was at least close, but that was only the case because both sides were playing so poorly. It was sugar hit rugby league, with no intensity or meaning.

Coming straight off the back of watching the Panthers and Tigers play out a game filled with grit, this could not have been more different, and it would be hard to suggest that it was better.

Normally we rate a bad game, where both teams play badly, as one with a lot of dropped ball and penalties, but this was something very different. Make no mistake, though: it was dreadful.

The Crowd Says:

2024-04-21T04:51:35+00:00

Tom G

Roar Rookie


Based upon the respective rosters it shouldn’t be even close. That last game we should never have lost . In fairness though, that was played at Conbank where no one except the home team gets a break.

2024-04-21T03:24:11+00:00

DavMan

Roar Rookie


Agree, Tom. It will be a very interesting clash with Parra next week given both teams are hot and cold.

2024-04-21T02:27:08+00:00

aerial lizard

Roar Rookie


I would suggest his fitness is not up to 80 mins and he doesn't want him blown out in the opening exchanges. Elsewise it's illogical.

2024-04-21T02:00:54+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


He'll be ready for first grade sometime soon

2024-04-21T01:57:38+00:00

Bernie

Roar Rookie


ahhh, Sharons Headband ..... you know he's listed as a "development" player at Manly.

2024-04-21T01:52:35+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


Lazy, yes...talented, yes....but why does Hasler have him sitting the first 20 minutes out and then bring him on when the Titans are heading for another defeat?

2024-04-21T01:37:39+00:00

aerial lizard

Roar Rookie


He showed small glimpses of why he is raved about last night after being mostly absent since joining titties. He came in to 1st grade at the same time and age as Lomax, and they have similarly demonstrated their natural brilliance. (Sorry, forgot the "not".)

2024-04-21T01:31:41+00:00

aerial lizard

Roar Rookie


Dolphins have been obliterated with injuries over their one and a ¼ seasons and I haven't heard Bennett making excuses.

2024-04-21T00:44:54+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


Lazy Davy either needs to earn his coin and start the game (i.e. from the kickoff) or ask to play on the wing

2024-04-21T00:02:39+00:00

Tom G

Roar Rookie


Just on the positive… they played mediocre and still won. Lodge looked good and made plenty of metres, Tommy Talau’ s jamming defence gave us a couple of highlights in a game bereft of defensive rigour, Turbo was solid. On the debit side.. the defence was really poor at times. They looked weary from a tough extra time draw last week, the Warriors also lacked energy. All in all, I can’t be overly critical but for one thing… why the hell is Aaron Woods on the bench??? Surely it was worth giving Asatasi James a run this week

2024-04-20T23:17:55+00:00

DavMan

Roar Rookie


There are a lot of comments hereabouts how poor Manly were. Still got the two points and that's important. Kudos to the Titans for not giving up though. They are a better team than 0-6 would suggest. Hopefully they can get themselves a win soon.

2024-04-20T22:36:19+00:00

BigGordon

Roar Rookie


I wonder if coaches think about their comments. Siebold mentioned all the guys he had out and said he had a big hole in his forward pack but surely the replacements and the rest of the team are still allowed to tackle?

2024-04-20T14:26:35+00:00

Bill

Roar Rookie


Turbo looks more than unhappy. He seems to not care at times, whilst trying. I can't put my finger on it obviously but something is off

2024-04-20T13:40:38+00:00

Cam

Roar Rookie


I just had a look and the Titans won every stat except the one that counts. Manly dish that up against a top 8 team and they will get lapped.

2024-04-20T12:06:09+00:00

Cugel

Roar Rookie


64 in points in the first 56 minutes, then squat. Pretty unusual.

2024-04-20T12:02:00+00:00

Rosie

Roar Rookie


I think Manly were some what complacent tonight, although there are clearly defensive issues to resolve. Their attack was solid but can’t leak that many points especially against the top teams.

2024-04-20T10:58:13+00:00

Forty Twenty

Roar Rookie


You'd think Garrick would have been raring to go after an extended break but he was very average. He seems pretty bright but watching him come in and leave Kelly with fresh air makes me wonder what's going thru his mind. He was up too far , planting his feet and brain and bingo , off goes Kelly. DCE had another one of those games where he wasn't the wise head he should be but a player almost determined to make errors. You can see it in his persona at times. I don't get why he didn't drop a few kicks in behind the defensive line line instead of the predictable highish bombs which the Titans gathered uncontested and ran back to where a short attacking kick would land anyway. Leading the way was Jurbo , Waddell and Paeseka . Turbo was great but looks a touch unhappy about something. Probably carrying an injury or two. The two points and a probable lack of injuries is what this game was all about. Maybe it's a season where every team is bad at times. The Pennies weren't so great against Manly a few weeks back.

2024-04-20T10:55:51+00:00

David8

Roar Rookie


Gold Coast have been a real bogey-team for Manly. 28-24 to Manly prior to this match. Summed up perfectly by DCE: “We'll learn and work on some things after this, still, happy with the two points.” Aloaia, Sipley, Burbo and Nathan Brown to return to the team is a massive improvement, complemented by the result of Woods relegated. Need to utilise Kaula more. It seems that Manly spread the ball and score, run up a big lead, play conservatively, and get run down.

2024-04-20T10:13:25+00:00

Bill

Roar Rookie


Our average points against per game was already non finals like, it's now absymal. However, we seem to have games like this against Titans so maybe they know our weak spots? Not fun and I don't like it. As nice as our attack is it means very little in the long term. Bad 2 pts

2024-04-20T09:35:51+00:00

The Spectator

Roar Guru


After last weeks game Warriors v Eagles, warriors looked flat and sore so I was curious how Manly would turn up tonight and proof is in the pudding, last week took a lot out of warriors and eagles so I’m gratful for the two points .

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