'Easy to throw stones': RA chairman hits back at mudslingers' 'hypocrisy' after calls for AGM board cleanout

By Christy Doran / Editor

As calls grow for the entire Rugby Australia board to be overthrown, new chairman Daniel Herbert described the agitators behind the movement as hypocrites and mudslingers.

Ahead of next week’s Annual General Meeting, a collection of former Wallabies, ARU coaches and directors, who call themselves the Supporters of Australian Rugby Reform, called for a total cleanout of the RA board.

The recent calls come after Herbert, as well as RA chief executive Phil Waugh, sat on the board and were involved in the high performance committee that presided over the Wallabies’ worst World Cup campaign last year. The duo were also involved in the discussions that led to Dave Rennie being sacked and Eddie Jones sensationally returning as Wallabies coach less than two months after being sacked by the Rugby Football Union.

Rugby Australia chairman Daniel Herbert has hit back at those calling for the current board to stand down, describing them as mudslingers and hypocrites. (Photo by Chris Hyde/Getty Images for Rugby Australia)

Former Wallaby Russ Tulloch, who wrote his second column in as many weeks on The Roar on Tuesday, is leading the charge calling for the cleanout.

As first reported by The Roar, Tulloch has been joined by former Wallaby and ARU coaching director Dick Marks, former Western Force boss and ARU board member Geoff Stooke and convenor Paul Jonson.

On Tuesday, the SOARR group doubled down on their initial calls.

“We want a Board selected by the rugby population of Australia. A Board of the best people Australian rugby people can find,” Tulloch wrote in The Roar.

“The closed shop process allowed under the present constitution has delivered a Board of financiers, bankers, eg Phil Waugh, and professional Board operatives. We need people with the skills to develop and financially sustain the game from the grass roots up to the revenue-earning Wallabies.”

He added: “Without a total change, a full cleanout, only more of the same will occur. Talk of stability and experience is fatuous, these are the people that have created the crisis. A definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.”

The Wallabies’ World Cup flop has led to many to question the current Rugby Australia board’s credentials. (Photo by Chris Hyde/Getty Images)

On Tuesday, Herbert hit back and said the latest airing of dirty laundry was doing nothing to help get Australian rugby back on track.

“We have gone through this bloodletting for a long, long time,” Herbert told the Inside Line podcast.

“The article I read this morning I think I have probably read about 10 times over the last decade. There are always these little groups of agitators who tend to pop up in our game and this is no different.

“You understand they wait for the opportunity when things don’t pan out. They very rarely offer any viable solution but just want to throw a lot of mud.

“The overarching thing for me with any of these types of things that occur is: why, if you love a game and you support a game, would you go publicly and do something like that? That doesn’t serve to protect or enhance the reputation or the interests of the game?

“And then it’s just the hypocrisy, of some of the people involved, annoys me as well. Some of these people have been involved in the administration and made some of the mistakes, going back some way. It’s very easy now to sit on the outside and throw stones in. It is more self than it is game.”

Herbert said he had spoken to several of the figures involved with the SOARR group, who on Monday placed advertisements in newspapers calling for the RA board to be overthrown.

“And there were a few other things as well. I had that conversation and that wasn’t taken particularly well,” he said.

“Sometimes people see themselves as the solution and if you don’t share that same point of view then sometimes they don’t like that.”

The calls also come after members of the SOARR group feel that they weren’t listened to after being invited to comment on aspects of Australian rugby in recent years.

Indeed, Stooke and Marks were part of a National Technical Advisory Committee put together in 2020 by former RA chairman Hamish McLennan, to advise on coaching and pathway matters. Other members included Nick Farr-Jones, Bob Dwyer and Roger Gould.

Yet, the group essentially stopped meeting after feeling their commentary wasn’t being heard.

For many, the fact Herbert and Waugh both sat on the board and were involved in discussions with McLennan on several matters – Jones’ return, the multi-million-dollar signing of Joseph Suaalii, and the overspend on last year’s World Cup campaign – means they can’t wipe their hands clean of their roles of last year’s disaster.

Herbert once again indicated that the current administration wasn’t necessarily aligned with the former leadership.

“What I would say is you don’t always get your way. There are always divergent views on a board or in a selection committee and whatever decision is ultimately taken you have to move forward with that,” he said.

“There was certainly strong debate over a lot of those decisions but going back to the change that came about in November, what drove that and remembering what was said by the member unions: lost trust, the chair (McLennan) acting outside of his role with undue influence and judgement, and player poaching of players from another code, were things that I also agreed with.”

There are five directors up for approval at next week’s AGM.

Two new directors are needed to replace Waugh and McLennan, while Matt Hanning, Karen Penrose and Jane Wilson are seeking re-election. A fourth, Pip Marlow, will stand down in the coming months.

While it’s unlikely the entire board will be overthrown by the 14 member unions – they need a 50 per cent vote to move a motion of no confidence – Hanning, the founder of Barrenjoey, in particular, is under threat.

Several member unions remain furious that they have been led to the edge of the financial cliff after having yearly $1.7m grants taken away from them by RA since the onset of COVID-19 in 2020.

The April 29 AGM falls just days after the Melbourne Rebels’ voluntary administration lapses this week, with a report into their future to be presented on Friday. It’s believed the report will advise that the Rebels should continue to run as a Super Rugby franchise in 2025.

The Crowd Says:

2024-04-27T01:04:55+00:00

GusTee

Roar Pro


Stand firm RA - hold the line!

2024-04-25T07:06:15+00:00

Guess

Roar Rookie


Wonder if rebels directors or their friends are part of that Facebook group of bleeding hearts lol. As much as I hate aru I don't trust this bs group. Even if they seemingly reflect public sentiments looks like they're driven by self interests rather than concern for the game. Aru has brought those vultures on themselves with their stupid decisions tho

2024-04-25T07:01:22+00:00

cs

Roar Guru


And that has exactly what to do with a chair's right to respond to criticisms in the press?

2024-04-25T06:57:43+00:00

Megeng

Roar Rookie


Think of a board of an entity that just about to be taken over in a hostile manner. They always say it's a terrible idea, barbarians, etc. in over 50% of cases it usually works out ok for the customers, the shareholders and the company employees. Just not the board directors. It's easy to make statements about the future which can't be substantiated unless you're Nostradamus

2024-04-25T05:52:03+00:00

BamT

Roar Rookie


That's where all their ABs are selected from tho.

2024-04-25T05:51:18+00:00

BamT

Roar Rookie


To be fair the Reds were good last year when they played up here, some of them spent good time with the juniors. But even the young grade players would love some attention, dare I say it a beer at the pub after training??

2024-04-25T05:32:28+00:00

Piccolino

Roar Rookie


Yeah I suspect it is a bit of both: They have ideas of people they would like to see appointed and the path they want to go down, but want to wider voting and so can't guarantee everything will land where they are proposing. I agree things could definitely get worse, especially if their approach just leads to states arguing and pushing their angle.

2024-04-25T05:18:24+00:00

AndyS

Roar Rookie


I'm saying that, as you've noted they've put up a "proposal to actually improve the game". But they then also say that all they're actually proposing is a change in how directors are nominated and voted on, and have no idea where that leads other than hopefully all the best people in Australia on the board. Done together, that would seem to suggest that either they are hoping people are a bit hard of thinking and support their initiative in the mistaken belief that doing so will result in all those nice proposals coming true, or they do in fact know the people who want the gig, believe those people when they've promise all that awesome stuff, but don't want to say who they are. The change they propse will either make things better or worse. Rather than paint lots of pictures of fairy dust and rainbows, they should perhaps be quite clear that things could in fact get far worse as a result of the change if the wrong people wind up in charge. Or even just well-meaningly incompetent people who have no idea what the job actually involves. Or they believe that their unicorn picture is a real place that absolutely will be achieved, in which case they need to be clear exactly how and why the know that.

2024-04-25T04:14:57+00:00

cs

Roar Guru


I'm on your side BamT. Reckon Phil should get some Wallabies up there soon.

2024-04-25T04:00:35+00:00

cs

Roar Guru


Nonsense. You appear to be referring to restrictions on directors with a conflict between their personal interests and their obligation to act in the interests of the company, which has nothing to do with defending the company against barbarians ranged at the gates, regardless of whether the defence is taken up in the media or elsewhere.

2024-04-25T02:13:49+00:00

Muglair

Roar Rookie


Yes and no. The group is not wrong, but the only way forward is to do it within the existing Constitution. RA need to be doing these things now, not in two years time after they keep failing while doing the same things.

2024-04-25T01:47:05+00:00

Muglair

Roar Rookie


These same people control an entity which is intended to be an association of Australian rugby clubs. They have not sufficiently expanded that association to be an effective influence, or indeed be a template for reform. This is just opportunistic and lazy.

2024-04-25T01:45:14+00:00

Muglair

Roar Rookie


Hanning is associated with McLennan and should already have resigned.

2024-04-25T01:32:18+00:00

Old school rugby

Roar Rookie


Phil was at the club grand finals at Ballymore last year. Phil is a top bloke and has always gone the extra mile for rugby.

2024-04-25T01:17:32+00:00

Mactruck

Roar Rookie


Just need to give the current leadership a chance here. Let’s review again in 2 years time. Old blokes slinging yet more mud and issuing 20 page motherhood statements won’t help us win the bledisloe.

2024-04-25T00:16:09+00:00

Megeng

Roar Rookie


Absolutely. The point of being a director of any company is that you apply wisdom and skill to the motivate the executive so as to achieve the purpose of the organisation as stated in the constitution. You don't in any circumstances engage in activities that could be perceived to be self motivated. You're not there for yourself.

2024-04-24T23:45:12+00:00

aerial lizard

Roar Rookie


The old banana benders can't helped themselves, NSW hatred stirred into baby food like indoctrinating infants with religion. This is a crisis situation where nothing but absolute unity will see the game survive in Australia. What if we put pathetic hatreds aside for a bit and work towards the betterment of the game? I'm one of those two-headed mother copulating Taswegians so vastly more vulgar than a cockroach.

2024-04-24T23:37:53+00:00

aerial lizard

Roar Rookie


:crying:

2024-04-24T23:32:42+00:00

aerial lizard

Roar Rookie


The self-titled Peter V'landys is League's version of one of those people and he & the others are taking RL towards the number one winter sport in Australia. So rugger can either sit on its hands and die or follow the horse man's circus methods, what other options are there?

2024-04-24T23:16:11+00:00

4 of 6

Roar Rookie


RA boards have been a failure for close to 25 years. That fact alone tells you something……poor board member selection, poor planning, poor administration. The selection and structure of the board is not working for the good of Oz rugby…..revise the structural head, possibly bring in two or even three board members from outside rugby countries to act as sounding boards eg Ireland, France or NZ , who can also review the boards performance on an annual basis. The boards needs to be held accountable and not a free run at Oz rugby supporters expense.

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