AFL News: North OF Melbourne? McGuire's bold idea to rejuvenate Roos, Scott slams sub rule after Anzac Day drama

By The Roar / Editor

Eddie McGuire’s latest bold idea has dropped – for North Melbourne to take over the outskirts of Melbourne and use it to rejuvenate the struggling club’s recent off-field woes.

The Kangaroos sit last on the AFL ladder with a 0-6 record to start the season, having won just 12 matches since the end of 2019.

However, as he revealed to the Herald Sun, the former Collingwood president believes creating a second base in the fast-growing northern outer suburbs of Melbourne, and with it establishing a Next Generation Academy with total access to future stars in the region, could be just the ticket to turning things around – and turning a migration-heavy area into another AFL heartland.

“I’d love to see North Melbourne go to the north of Melbourne,” McGuire said.

“Keep North Melbourne at Arden Street, but also move up the road.

“If you have a look at the demographics of Melbourne and Victoria… we know there’s 500,000 people coming into Australia; we know Victoria is going to be the biggest area.

“So what are the things we have to get? More players. They’re coming, but what we have to do is make it attractive. We have to build on what footy and what the AFL is good at, and that’s community.

“We should go into these areas and build footy grounds, and community health centres, then mum from Somalia comes down and then dad comes down, then the great Aussie tradition… the Afghan dad comes down and does the barbecue and the canteen.

“Everyone who has played in the under-11s is dreaming of playing at the MCG one day and that what’s we need to do, we need to go out to these areas and connect with these new migrants and introduce them to football, or introduce them to what it could be.”

Every AFL club has a Next Generation Academy (NGA) program, but since the Western Bulldogs used it to draft Jamarra Ugle-Hagan with pick 1 of the 2020 draft, rules have come in preventing clubs from matching rival bids inside the top 20 on draft night.

However, McGuire things the catchment area will be big enough to have great benefits for the struggling Kangaroos, as well as prevent the AFL from becoming ‘a private-school game’.

“If North got in there and were able to pay their own way, and get their own players, well, if we keep the academies as they are, that’s practically everyone for them,” he said.

“All these kids’ fathers and mothers are born overseas, so they qualify for the NGA Academy.

“We’ve got to go into Western Sydney, into Queensland – that’s no problem whatsoever – but we have a big joint north of Melbourne and probably in the south-east of Melbourne as well.”

North Melbourne. (Photo by Daniel Pockett/Getty Images)

Scott slams sub rule as debate erupts over extra time after Anzac Day draw

Essendon captain Zach Merrett says he would have relished extra time to decide a winner on Anzac Day, while Collingwood coach Craig McRae felt a draw was the right result at the end of a gripping contest.

Almost three decades on from their fabled 1995 draw, the Bombers and Magpies played out another instant classic at the MCG on Thursday.

It reignited the debate about whether extra time should be played to settle tied AFL home-and-away matches.

McRae said he predicted the discussion as he joked with a security guard on his way off the ground after the final siren.

“We fought for 120 minutes and we couldn’t find a margin,” McRae told reporters after the match.

“I’ll leave that up to others to decide whether we need more time. It was a great game.

“I would’ve thought (it was a fair result). They had great momentum and we got some back, then it was an arm-wrestle after halftime really.

“This game’s always going to be about moments and managing those and how you handle situations.”

Merrett won the Anzac Day Medal as best afield in a 31-disposal performance, but was left with a hollow feeling at the end of the match.

“I love competing, I love winning and I hate losing, so I would love to have played for an extra five or 10 minutes to get a result,” he said.

“But it’s a unique feeling walking off with no team song for both (sides).”

Essendon coach Brad Scott said fans should have the final say on whether extra time is introduced for home-and-away matches.

“I could make an argument for and against, but I think the game comes back to the fans,” Scott said.

“For them, if you ask the fans, I think they probably want a result.

“It’s an even competition and I think we fixed the major one – we don’t want a draw in a grand final, as an industry.

“But I don’t have a strong view for and against (extra time in home-and-away matches). If I was at the AFL, I’d poll the fans.”

The Essendon-Collingwood draw was the first of the season, after two were played out last year.

It was the fifth draw in 247 AFL/VFL meetings between the great rivals and their first in 29 years.

Scott was more definitive in voicing his frustration with the AFL’s sub rule, saying he has ‘absolutely no idea’ why the rule exists.

According to Scott, the Bombers were forced to sub out forward Harry Jones midway through the final quarter after a head collision left him bleeding from the nose, with Scott and club doctors choosing to remove him from the game rather than be one player short while Jones underwent a concussion check, which he later cleared, and his bleeding was stopped.

“It’s such a difficult one,” Scott said.

“We had 16 minutes to go in the last quarter, and they had to assess him, so we just made the call – ‘take your time, we’ll sub him, because we don’t have time to wait’.

“I’ve been pretty vocal. I don’t know why we have a sub. I’ve got absolutely no idea. If we didn’t have a sub, we wouldn’t have to worry about rushing the doctors to get a concussion diagnosis or not – we’d just put the fresh player on who’s sitting there.

“But then we’re sitting there with the fresh player while we’re assessing a key forward, while the game is on the line. [And] the sub’s supposed to take the pressure off the doctor?

“I’d love someone to explain that to me, I’ve got no idea… we brought back the rule everyone hated.”

(with AAP)

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Fagan curious to see ‘below par’ Lions’ response to Anzac Day thrashing

Chris Fagan says his Brisbane side have to stick together and learn from another confidence-sapping defeat if they are to turn around their poor start to the AFL campaign.

The Lions were handily beaten thanks to a second-half onslaught against GWS on Anzac Day, at one stage allowing nine unanswered goals on their way to a 17.11 (113) to 8.11 (59) loss at Canberra’s Manuka Oval.

Fagan admitted his team’s effort-level was ‘below par’ during the second-half bashing that led to the 54-point defeat, but wouldn’t buy into the “doom and gloom” surrounding the 2-5 start to the season from last year’s grand finalists.

He likened the Lions’ predicament to his first two seasons in charge of the club, when they won just five games in both campaigns while building the foundation of a title-contending outfit.

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“This group has been so good for the last five years, I admire and respect them for the efforts they’ve been able to put in over the last five seasons,” he said.

“I’m not gonna sit here and bag the team for the way they performed, I’m in it with them.

“The way forward is together, that was how we became a good team in the first place … we learned from our mistakes, we stuck together and we became a good team. 

“And the way out of the situation that we’re in at the moment, particularly in the way that we played is that exact same way.

“Confidence is a quirky thing in sport, it comes and goes and I’ve got to help those boys find their confidence and connection again.”

The Lions have the Gold Coast next weekend at the Gabba before a trip to Adelaide to face the Crows.

Round five’s upset win against Melbourne remained something of a beacon of hope for Fagan, with Lions mentor suggesting it showed the capability his side still possesses.

“Melbourne has been the only time we’ve been able to turn up and play a really high-level brand of football,” he said.

“But it’s these moments where you find out about yourself as a club.

“It’s a good opportunity, I’m curious to see how we respond in the next few weeks, that’s going to be the critical thing.

“It’s not so much about what happens in a game like this, it’s what you do about it.” 

(AAP)

The Crowd Says:

2024-04-28T04:43:34+00:00

Wikipetia

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if they lose to the Suns there should be real consideration of moving him on. this list has a real chance this season, even now.

2024-04-28T04:41:49+00:00

Wikipetia

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given my club's season is over there is plenty of time to ponder the future until we get a 19 game season with 20 teams,, my views are: - I am warming to the idea that each Melbourne team would visit each non-Victorian team EVERY year. most times big clubs are doing it 5-7 times a year. just make it 8. make it a feature of a national comp, a recognition of our federation, the impact of travel, the factors that saved the VFL clubs, the unfair GF hosting, the historic wrongs under the former 8 of interstate teams coming to Melbourne to face lower ranked teams etc. (that would mean Richmond going interstate 8 times; playing the other 9 Victorian teams once; then say a mix of 3 interstate teams coming to Melbourne, and Dreamtime and the one of Carlton/Collingwood/Melbourne.) [I suspect there may be a mathematical glitch if applied across the comp, but they should just make it the foundation stone. it's a sunday and I am on holidays. actual thinking hurts.] - minimum 7 day break for Perth teams after playing anywhere other than Adelaide or Perth - 2 extra players on the list, some limitations on use, but recognition of the impacts of travel

2024-04-27T07:54:02+00:00

Don Freo

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I don't want it addressed; I just challenge you to acknowledge it. Your 2 posts indicate well established DENIAL.

2024-04-27T07:52:15+00:00

Don Freo

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No...Zac wasn't involved in decisions. I'm talking about umpires influenced by Victorian crowds.

2024-04-27T03:25:21+00:00

Gilberto

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If you really want it addressed you need to remove the MCC members from GF day. They skew the umpiring. The blades of grass don't really matter. Melbourne the best place for the GF just need an even crowd.

2024-04-27T03:19:35+00:00

Gilberto

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Haha apparently the umpire was supposed to compensate Freo for Zac Dawson not marking Gunston. From memory Freo kept missing shots at goal, kicked the last 2 goals in junk time and were well beaten on the day, and beaten by Hawthorn pretty much everyday in their 2013-2015 peak

2024-04-27T02:50:37+00:00

Don Freo

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The Vics would always have a team in a final. No way. Better to play States of Origin. Nah. Happy to keep it as it is...just concede the uncomfortable truth. You keep open, and acknowledged, the understanding that it's harder and teach the press to remember that for more than one game.

2024-04-27T01:48:09+00:00

Cinderella's Big Score

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I don't like complex equalization formulas. Too many variables to be weighed, too many sources of bias. I like elegant solutions to problems. I prefer two conferences - Victorian and non-Victorian. That way you wouldn't even see a Victorian team until super bowl day, and the game would be held on a neutral venue.

2024-04-27T01:41:37+00:00

Virgil

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Think 12 might be enough this year. A very even comp especially with West Coast no longer easy beats.

2024-04-27T01:36:24+00:00

Don Freo

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The question was, “Is it harder?” It’s not impossible but it’s quite an achievement. For instance, Freo’s 13 point GF loss in 2013 was on the back of 2 gimme home crowd umpire goals in the first 2 minutes. It included a goal after the quarter time siren when Suckling ran off his mark…the kick should have been a no score. Suban had a mark 60m out, they ran through the mark…no 50 given. These are examples of just the umpiring disadvantage for non-Vic sides. The disadvantage is worth more than 13 points. The travel, the limitations of ‘soft cap’ staff. The length of break… This article had some good suggestions There were a good 5 goals of home town error.

2024-04-27T01:27:52+00:00

Don Freo

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Don't we all?

2024-04-27T00:43:21+00:00

Cinderella's Big Score

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AFL Premiers 1999-2006: Adelaide, Essendon, Brisbane, Brisbane, Brisbane, Port Adelaide, Sydney, West Coast. That was probably the golden period, from the AFL's point of view. Travel was still a factor for those non-Victorian teams, but they still managed to win premierships, a bit like topweights winning the Melbourne Cup. Non-Victorian teams of the same calibre don't seem to have emerged since. Adding Gold Coast and GWS to saturate NSW and Qld markets probably hasn't helped. The AFL fixture is a mess for all sorts of reasons, not just the ones that you have named. But the AFL's priority is not fairness or fixture integrity, it is revenue raising and growth. This was the whole point of having a national competition. Do you imagine that they all sat around at the beginning and said "Oh, let's create a National competition to decide who is the best team in the country each year"? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: No, it was about making the shift from a semi-professional, parochial, financially strapped suburban competition to corporate professional sports entertainment based on overseas models. We are now mainly there to sell stuff to. But you can still enjoy the beauty of the game. Just don't take it so seriously.

2024-04-27T00:18:32+00:00

Cinderella's Big Score

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Apparently attributed to Alan Jeans. Who also had a thing or two to say about sausages.

2024-04-26T23:23:57+00:00

Rowdy

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"The Life of Eddie": He's not the Messiah, he's just a condescending naughty boy.

2024-04-26T23:01:38+00:00

Don Freo

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A bit of fixture equalisation might be more important than moving NM to another place. One of the better footy writers, Channel 7 Perth's Ryan Daniels asked Andrew Dillon through the week if it's harder to win a flag if you are not a Victorian team. Dillon's answer was comprehensive...with one word: "Yes." Daniels made some great observations which also offered solutions (today's thewest.com) including this: "West Coast and Fremantle have seven games each this season where they play teams coming off longer breaks than them. By comparison, Carlton have just three. The Blues will travel 13,500km this season, spending seven total days interstate. West Coast will travel 58,428km, 22 days interstate. Last season Fremantle clocked more than 62,000km..."

2024-04-26T22:53:50+00:00

Don Freo

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The only thing missing is someone saying (usually Brad Hardie), "It's like dancing with your sister."...which is a really weird saying anyway.

2024-04-26T13:50:56+00:00

Curmudgeon1961

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Have seen Fagan talking to media recently and gee he feels a bit off the pace. Like my uncle or something (and I'm 62) has walked in to mind the front counter. Lots going on there of course but his not without his own question marks.

2024-04-26T13:10:31+00:00

Cinderella's Big Score

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There's a big joint north of Melbourne, Eddie? Show me where! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

2024-04-26T06:47:53+00:00

Chanon

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If you don’t eat your meat you can’t have any pudding :cricket:

2024-04-26T06:47:38+00:00

nostats

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afl get rightly criticized for to many rule changes so its up to players to decide now is it.as many have said a draw is a result people just dont seem to understand that

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