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Cinderella's Big Score

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Cinderella's Big Score is 30.30.210. A long time ago it was the record score in a VFL match. This was a different age, when the rules of the game were immutable, the fixturing was orderly, and even things like record scores had a nice, memorable symmetry about them. Melbourne was its own self-contained universe, like a fairy tale kingdom. Cinderella's Big Score is also a song by Sonic Youth about disillusionment.

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There was an old man named Don Freo
Who repelled everyone with his B.O.
Although this recurred
He remained undeterred
And still interjected with brio.

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Riley Meredith is playing football now?? 🏏

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Collingwood don’t make the fixture and if they did they wouldn’t schedule themselves to have the shortest preseason in the history of the national competition and the wonderful honour of starting in the first week of March as prime menu item in the AFL’s special ‘Let’s give a big leg-up to NSW and Qld’ round. The impossibility of having a fair draw in a National Competition in a country with Australia’s geographical and demographic attributes provides ample scope for anybody with a beef to go stressing on that element of the draw that disadvantages them. I have warned everybody before that if the irrational Collingwood hate gets too heated I will respond. I take no joy from it …

There was an old bulldog named Naughty
Whose posts got increasingly haughty
But we know what he fears
Oh God! How many more years!?
Another twenty? Or thirty? Or forty!?

So there. Let that be an end to it..

The Roar's AFL expert tips and predictions, Round 14: Should the Tigers be favourites for Dusty's 300th?

Naughty’s Headband tells me that I am ridiculous. So with that in mind, I’ll take your advice and change my tip to North.

The Roar's AFL expert tips and predictions, Round 14: Should the Tigers be favourites for Dusty's 300th?

Sorry, the player profile on the Crows website says that he came as a free agent but you’re right, he was traded for a future first round pick.

I agree that with the influx of drafted players in recent years, that reflects the first phase of a rebuild. And ideally, once you have a nice core of youth and they have time to develop then you can trade in a few more experienced players to round out your list.

But the fact is that Adelaide seem to have a cultural preference for developing their own recruits, rather than obtaining them from other AFL programs. Consider this ranking, which is the number of players on each teams’ list that have played at least one game at another AFL club:
Carlton 16
St Kilda 14
Collingwood 13
Port Adelaide 13
Brisbane 12
Essendon 12
Hawthorn 11
Melbourne 11
North Melbourne 11
Western Bulldogs 10
Fremantle 9
Geelong 9
Gold Coast 8
West Coast 8
Richmond 7
Sydney 6
GWS 5
Adelaide 5

I don’t see these numbers as being correlated with success or stage of rebuild or anything like that. But when there is such a wide range, I think they do reflect different preferences at clubs about how they go about recruiting their players and, to some extent, different attitudes toward the risks of bringing players in from outside.

What it makes me suspect is that, whilst you are predicting that from henceforth the Crows will now start recruiting more players through trade because they are in that part of the cycle, I have my doubts that that is what they will actually do, because of this cultural resistance. I use the term cultural resistance loosely – the rankings show non-Victorian clubs tend to trade in fewer players than Victorian clubs and that may be in part because it is more difficult for them to attract players. But I think another strong contributor is a preference for local-bred players and if that is your target market then it is going to narrow the field significantly. It would be interesting to revisit these figures in five years time to see what actually happens.

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It’s incorrect to say that you haven’t had a bye yet. You had your bye in Round 0.

Collingwood have also only had one bye this year. That happened in Round 5.

If North Melbourne is a bye, then the Bulldogs have byes in Rounds 0, 15, 16 and 23 this season. Collingwood have byes in Rounds 5, 14 and 15.

So the Bulldogs get 4 byes, Collingwood get 3, and poor old North Melbourne only get one.

The Roar's AFL expert tips and predictions, Round 14: Should the Tigers be favourites for Dusty's 300th?

Some people have pointed to the Crows disappointing returns from recent National Drafts. But another area where they seem to have underperformed is in the trade arena. From the 23 who they fielded last weekend, only one player (Burgess) had been recruited via trade (I don’t count Dawson because he was a free agent).

By comparison, the 23 who played in last years premiership team had 8 players traded in, the previous years had 6. Successful teams generally have fairly good representation across all categories of player acquisition.

When teams are really ready for success, they actually have very few recent National Draft Selections in their line-up. Last year’s premiership team only contained two players selected since 2018 (N Daicos and McCreery). The previous year’s only contained one player selected since 2017 (De Koning). Both these teams contained quite a few players originally obtained through the draft, but most had been there for at least 5-6 years. In contrast, out of last weekend’s Crows team, only one of the 10 players obtained through the draft was drafted before 2017 (Smith).

I guess what I am saying is that they are an inexperienced group, but their squad also lacks players who have experienced football life at other clubs, and that is probably an added drawback.

'Chase towards mediocrity': It's time Matthew Nicks and the Crows started listening to the fans

FITZROY v St Kilda
Richmond v HAWTHORN
North Melbourne v COLLINGWOOD

Standings after Round 13 (in a fun parallel universe where non-Vic teams don’t exist):
South Melbourne 28 (8)
Geelong 28 (9)
Essendon 22 (8)
Carlton 20 (8)
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Melbourne 20 (9)
Collingwood 18 (8)
Fitzroy 16 (8)
Hawthorn 16 (9)
St Kilda 12 (8)
Footscray 12 (9)
Richmond 4 (8)
North Melbourne 0 (6)

The Roar's AFL expert tips and predictions, Round 14: Should the Tigers be favourites for Dusty's 300th?

White witch again?

The Roar's AFL expert tips and predictions, Round 14: Should the Tigers be favourites for Dusty's 300th?

Soccer is a funny game.

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Hodge was a defender, sort of.

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You read the UK Telegraph?

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Whilst I don’t doubt the trend that you are discussing here, there is also a counter trend which is seeing a smaller number of players recruited as teenagers through the National Draft, and an increased number of mature aged players recruited through other avenues.

I can’t give you a detailed analysis of the socio-economic status of mature aged recruits, but it seems that many of them have come from modest backgrounds, country and suburban footballers like Jordan Boyd and Joe Richards, tradesmen like Sam Durham and Lachie Sullivan.

It probably reflects the fact that clubs still want the best talent regardless of background, but they do have caps on their recruiting staff and there are limits to how far and wide you can travel to look at under 16 games. Even with some recent mature age country recruits like Joe Richards and Jack Hutchinson, it has taken their country footy coaches (former AFL players) to draw the attention of AFL clubs to them, rather than being discovered by recruiters.

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The VFL didn’t start in 1858, it started in 1897, Mr (not quite) Right.

The top ten AFL players since 2000: Where does Dustin Martin sit on the eve of his 300th game?

Thanks so much.

Sorry there was no Geelong in it. By the time that they played on Sunday, I knew that I was going to write an article with an anger theme. But Chris Scott doesn’t seem to get angry any more, even in defeat. He gave me nothing. 😊

After a round chock-full of controversy, it's time to get angry... because the coaches aren't allowed to be

Dane Swan … before they put a cap on interchanges.

The top ten AFL players since 2000: Where does Dustin Martin sit on the eve of his 300th game?

I just chundered. 🤢

The top ten AFL players since 2000: Where does Dustin Martin sit on the eve of his 300th game?

I think that Brayden needs the bonnet to hide his haircut. 😊 You can keep the bee.

After a round chock-full of controversy, it's time to get angry... because the coaches aren't allowed to be

Point taken Don. Although very unusual for you to confuse Freo with Brayden Maynard. It was Bruzzy who had the ‘bee in his bonnet’. The Dockers have a ‘chip on their shoulders’. Allegedly. Admittedly based on narrow insight. No offence intended.

After a round chock-full of controversy, it's time to get angry... because the coaches aren't allowed to be

There was an old man named Don Freo
Who postured and prowled like a Leo
He hated the Pies
Attacked them with lies
I wish we could send him to Rio

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Nothing unwatchable about George Wardlaw. Or Nick Larkey for that matter.

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Gamble responsibly Chris. Don’t expect good market value for anybody wearing green and gold (unless they are Jamaican or South African). Look for French bolters. 😊

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I worked particularly hard on that one.

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Phew!

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A bit like the republic. Most people want it, they just can’t agree on what ‘it’ is.

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