Yeah? You just expect Maxwell to walk in and hand over a soft dismissal first or second now do you? Done it so often that it doesn't register as pathetic, just oh, well, that's the way Maxi plays, everyone else should make more runs or pick up the slack, because the big show has a licence to entertain!
Because he makes it off 12 balls and leaves 10-50 balls for the tail to navigate, when he's 'the closer'. The number of times another 20 runs were needed and he's thrown away a start is ridiculous. He's a last 10 ball slogger, but has past the stage of being useful.
C’mon mate, you don’t get to be the Big Show by knocking singles around. Besides, he’s got his next Kookaburra promo clip to think about and I’m sure the shot he played the other night will look awesome in that, with appropriate editing of course.
It's 20 over cricket, surely on average a batsman in the top 5 should be there at the end more often than not. If you can make a 100+ in a 50 over by batting for 20 overs, then surely that 100 in a 20 over is just as valuable in a T20 average score of 175-180? If the object is to win a game, then a guy batting thru is just as important as any format. If the object is to pepper the crowd with 6's every game, then a finisher is irrelevant, as the risk is more important than the reward.
He needs to be held accountable by Bailey and Langer, not Langer & Finch. He’s a senior player showing no match awareness in a team which lost. There’s accountability for losing and a serial underachiever needs to be accountable. For some reason people think he’s an all rounder, so if he bowled adequately and the selectors must have him for the what if or if only factor, lower him in the order, elevate a player with awareness and give him the 6 to 10 balls a ‘clean up hitter’ is capable of managing.
Of course I’m talking about if he should be in the team, that game is over and now is one more stat in his record! Come on mate, he’s no clean up hitter. As you said, he’s in the Afridi mould, has an attack at his mercy and tries to invent something and walks off shaking his head as if he was stiffed when he hands a soft wicket over either leaving the chase to someone else, or balls in the first innings which a set batsman should be maximising. I don’t understand how one bloke with a less than mediocre statistical return for game investment can have a teflon approach from selectors, while other less experienced players with a technique only get a game here and there.
Huh? For the third time, based on the game situation. The run rate was well in hand and it was the last ball of the spinners spell. Are you seriously trying to suggest it’s too much to ask of an experienced international cricketer that they have a basic understanding of the situation of the game and play accordingly? Block the last ball of the spell and then go for your life after that. Its not rocket science and its not as if we needed 20 runs an over at that point, we were cruising. The only thing that could hurt us in that situation was to lose a quick wicket, Maxwell should have recognised that and played accordingly. It was dumb cricket, plain and simple.
Maxwell handed the momentum over, that’s the critical point. The old adage is that the game is 90% mental. Maxwell certainly sends 90% of the games fans mental! He has one of the fiercest straight drives in the game, yet persists in crosshand rubbish with ridiculously low percentage. He will reverse hit to an area covered by 5 fielders, instead stepping inside and straight bat hitting to an area with 2, the body of evidence is enough now to say he has no desire to play boring when the situation requires it. He might be a good bloke who can tear a park team apart, but international teams know his ego and he will implode inside a dozen balls on average. His game awareness is appalling, while his lack of team orientation is worse.
You seem to writing about whether Maxwell should be in the team, which I think is a separate issue. I'm on the fence with him, simply because, as you rightly say, he is a bit of an Afridi; looks a million bucks for a dozen deliveries, then gets out, often playing a shot we mere mortals would never have attempted.
The selectors seem to like him though and in fairness, he was useful with the ball and of course, he's brilliant in the field. I think if a better clean up hitter arrives on the scene who is more consistent than Mr Maxwell, you're right, his days are numbered.
Same tired old argument, Paul, not backed up by consistent results. He has no game awareness and won't knock it round to win. Carey would've hit thru the line, as would 99% of other options. There's always a qualifier from his fans of 'if only......'. There are young blokes lined up who have been given a game here and there and dropped for less. After being given chances at 3,4,5,6 he still only averages about a dozen balls faced per innings, with negligible not outs. He's past his used by date.
You've decided he made a bad decision for that shot based on what? This is a guy whose first thought in this format is about belting the cover off the ball. It's likely also his second & third thoughts as well. That's the way he plays, which you don't seem to understand.
Is this the right way or the best way; I think the jury's out on that, but as it stands, that's his method and I assume he'll continue to play exactly the same way unless he's told to reign it in by Langer or Finch.
Insult_2_Injury
Roar Rookie
Yeah? You just expect Maxwell to walk in and hand over a soft dismissal first or second now do you? Done it so often that it doesn't register as pathetic, just oh, well, that's the way Maxi plays, everyone else should make more runs or pick up the slack, because the big show has a licence to entertain!
PeteB
Roar Rookie
Yeah the same Warner who was the set batsman at the crease with us only requiring a run a ball to win. Worst get out shot of the innings.
Insult_2_Injury
Roar Rookie
Is that the Warner who put on 90 odd with Finch to set up the chase and was at the other end on 50 when Maxwell imploded for the 50th time?
Insult_2_Injury
Roar Rookie
Because he makes it off 12 balls and leaves 10-50 balls for the tail to navigate, when he's 'the closer'. The number of times another 20 runs were needed and he's thrown away a start is ridiculous. He's a last 10 ball slogger, but has past the stage of being useful.
Insult_2_Injury
Roar Rookie
Big show? No show!
PeteB
Roar Rookie
Yeah like Warner who played the worst shot of innings given the situation and has had 100 chances.
matth
Roar Guru
If he implodes after a handful of balls how does he average mid thirties in T20 Internationals, which is actually not too bad?
But but how good is Carey!!! If i've ever seen a more overrated player....
Took 2 wickets? I admit, his batting can be unbelievably stupid at times, but he is one of our best T20 batsman. Averages 34@150SR, thats insane.
Marty
Roar Rookie
C’mon mate, you don’t get to be the Big Show by knocking singles around. Besides, he’s got his next Kookaburra promo clip to think about and I’m sure the shot he played the other night will look awesome in that, with appropriate editing of course.
Insult_2_Injury
Roar Rookie
It's 20 over cricket, surely on average a batsman in the top 5 should be there at the end more often than not. If you can make a 100+ in a 50 over by batting for 20 overs, then surely that 100 in a 20 over is just as valuable in a T20 average score of 175-180? If the object is to win a game, then a guy batting thru is just as important as any format. If the object is to pepper the crowd with 6's every game, then a finisher is irrelevant, as the risk is more important than the reward.
Insult_2_Injury
Roar Rookie
He needs to be held accountable by Bailey and Langer, not Langer & Finch. He’s a senior player showing no match awareness in a team which lost. There’s accountability for losing and a serial underachiever needs to be accountable. For some reason people think he’s an all rounder, so if he bowled adequately and the selectors must have him for the what if or if only factor, lower him in the order, elevate a player with awareness and give him the 6 to 10 balls a ‘clean up hitter’ is capable of managing.
Insult_2_Injury
Roar Rookie
Of course I’m talking about if he should be in the team, that game is over and now is one more stat in his record! Come on mate, he’s no clean up hitter. As you said, he’s in the Afridi mould, has an attack at his mercy and tries to invent something and walks off shaking his head as if he was stiffed when he hands a soft wicket over either leaving the chase to someone else, or balls in the first innings which a set batsman should be maximising. I don’t understand how one bloke with a less than mediocre statistical return for game investment can have a teflon approach from selectors, while other less experienced players with a technique only get a game here and there.
Insult_2_Injury
Roar Rookie
Wow, let's give him a 85th chance, because, because, just because!
Marty
Roar Rookie
Huh? For the third time, based on the game situation. The run rate was well in hand and it was the last ball of the spinners spell. Are you seriously trying to suggest it’s too much to ask of an experienced international cricketer that they have a basic understanding of the situation of the game and play accordingly? Block the last ball of the spell and then go for your life after that. Its not rocket science and its not as if we needed 20 runs an over at that point, we were cruising. The only thing that could hurt us in that situation was to lose a quick wicket, Maxwell should have recognised that and played accordingly. It was dumb cricket, plain and simple.
Insult_2_Injury
Roar Rookie
Hahahaha!
Insult_2_Injury
Roar Rookie
Maxwell handed the momentum over, that’s the critical point. The old adage is that the game is 90% mental. Maxwell certainly sends 90% of the games fans mental! He has one of the fiercest straight drives in the game, yet persists in crosshand rubbish with ridiculously low percentage. He will reverse hit to an area covered by 5 fielders, instead stepping inside and straight bat hitting to an area with 2, the body of evidence is enough now to say he has no desire to play boring when the situation requires it. He might be a good bloke who can tear a park team apart, but international teams know his ego and he will implode inside a dozen balls on average. His game awareness is appalling, while his lack of team orientation is worse.
Paul
Roar Guru
You seem to writing about whether Maxwell should be in the team, which I think is a separate issue. I'm on the fence with him, simply because, as you rightly say, he is a bit of an Afridi; looks a million bucks for a dozen deliveries, then gets out, often playing a shot we mere mortals would never have attempted. The selectors seem to like him though and in fairness, he was useful with the ball and of course, he's brilliant in the field. I think if a better clean up hitter arrives on the scene who is more consistent than Mr Maxwell, you're right, his days are numbered.
Insult_2_Injury
Roar Rookie
Same tired old argument, Paul, not backed up by consistent results. He has no game awareness and won't knock it round to win. Carey would've hit thru the line, as would 99% of other options. There's always a qualifier from his fans of 'if only......'. There are young blokes lined up who have been given a game here and there and dropped for less. After being given chances at 3,4,5,6 he still only averages about a dozen balls faced per innings, with negligible not outs. He's past his used by date.
Paul
Roar Guru
You've decided he made a bad decision for that shot based on what? This is a guy whose first thought in this format is about belting the cover off the ball. It's likely also his second & third thoughts as well. That's the way he plays, which you don't seem to understand. Is this the right way or the best way; I think the jury's out on that, but as it stands, that's his method and I assume he'll continue to play exactly the same way unless he's told to reign it in by Langer or Finch.