If what RUPA says is correct RA couldn’t have added that clause anyway. It would have been found to be invalid and removed from the contract.
RA decided one member, RUPA/Folau decided another and the third was jointly agreed.
I doubt they were "lucky" with the panel. They would have chosen the panel's members, and likely would have had a good idea about their general world view or even more.
Normally, to find incompetence like at the ARU, you would have to look inside the ARL. …. But, what can I say?
It’s not worth arguing at this point TWAS. Most commenters are twisting the facts to suit their own narrative.
What has been really disappointing over the last couple of years is the pure vitriol consistently spewed out regarding Raelene Castle. It sickens me how many misogynistic people out their feel the need to blame everything on her.
Why though?
He was found to have breached the conditions of his contract by the Code of Conduct heading.
Therefore it's been determined that he was signed up not to do this.
What would an additional clause have changed?
“Hunt wishes Folau saga never happened”
Similar to what people are saying about Game of Thrones Season 8, which the Folau saga is starting to resemble.
Enterprise Bargaining Agreement.
I believe EBA and CBA are the same but someone may correct me.
They replace the award and are lodged with Fair Work to be signed off on. As they replace any award an employee would otherwise be held to they have to remain constant for all employees (to a certain degree). If would be like an employer trying to change their awards.
Obviously there are multiple nuances and clauses but that is the basis of it to my understanding having not read the RA EBA or been involved in the
negotiations.
It's been mentioned numerous times that due to the EBA the players are contracted under that no additional clauses are able to be added to the contract.
ALL players sign the same contract.
Even if RA wanted to add Social Media clauses they are unable to.
Has the roar been silenced on this?
We did have several articles a day. Now we’ve had revelations of contract bungling with Castle potentially gone, Folau removing all photos of him in Tah/Wallaby uniform, the verdict continually delayed, Fitzsimmons saying Rugby is in desperate trouble
Nothing but a video from Hunt
Explains and puts into perspective the whole saturday 1m attempt at a walk away.
I am thinking that the ra have been extremely lucky with this panel.
This definitely won't be the end of it, folau will take this to appeal.
I still don't agree with folau but contracts are contracts and if there was no clause and they are relying on just a code of conduct then that is thin defence, at its best.
Oblonsky‘s Other Pun
Roar Guru
If what RUPA says is correct RA couldn’t have added that clause anyway. It would have been found to be invalid and removed from the contract. RA decided one member, RUPA/Folau decided another and the third was jointly agreed.
Fat Toad
Roar Rookie
I doubt they were "lucky" with the panel. They would have chosen the panel's members, and likely would have had a good idea about their general world view or even more. Normally, to find incompetence like at the ARU, you would have to look inside the ARL. …. But, what can I say?
Hoges
Roar Rookie
It’s not worth arguing at this point TWAS. Most commenters are twisting the facts to suit their own narrative. What has been really disappointing over the last couple of years is the pure vitriol consistently spewed out regarding Raelene Castle. It sickens me how many misogynistic people out their feel the need to blame everything on her.
Ralph
Roar Guru
Enter - The Union. Ta da!
Ralph
Roar Guru
No, no, it must be conspiracy!
Kiwikrs
Roar Rookie
True. I was just trying to keep it somewhat brief without getting bogged down in too many loopholes.
Neel
Roar Guru
We all do.
Train Without A Station
Roar Guru
Well that's not entirely true. They can. But only if the Union agrees to.
Train Without A Station
Roar Guru
Probably because their articles push legal boundaries that the roar aren't willing to risk themselves being exposed to.
Train Without A Station
Roar Guru
Why though? He was found to have breached the conditions of his contract by the Code of Conduct heading. Therefore it's been determined that he was signed up not to do this. What would an additional clause have changed?
SandBox
Roar Guru
“Hunt wishes Folau saga never happened” Similar to what people are saying about Game of Thrones Season 8, which the Folau saga is starting to resemble.
Kiwikrs
Roar Rookie
Enterprise Bargaining Agreement. I believe EBA and CBA are the same but someone may correct me. They replace the award and are lodged with Fair Work to be signed off on. As they replace any award an employee would otherwise be held to they have to remain constant for all employees (to a certain degree). If would be like an employer trying to change their awards. Obviously there are multiple nuances and clauses but that is the basis of it to my understanding having not read the RA EBA or been involved in the negotiations.
riddler
Roar Rookie
eba? excuse my ignorance. so a private company can't set the conditions of their employee?
Kiwikrs
Roar Rookie
It's been mentioned numerous times that due to the EBA the players are contracted under that no additional clauses are able to be added to the contract. ALL players sign the same contract. Even if RA wanted to add Social Media clauses they are unable to.
adam smith
Guest
Was wondering the same SandBox, read the FoxSports report a day or two ago, & yet nothing on the Roar?!
SandBox
Roar Guru
Oh and to add, some roarers saying they’ve posted articles that aren’t being published for some reason
SandBox
Roar Guru
Has the roar been silenced on this? We did have several articles a day. Now we’ve had revelations of contract bungling with Castle potentially gone, Folau removing all photos of him in Tah/Wallaby uniform, the verdict continually delayed, Fitzsimmons saying Rugby is in desperate trouble Nothing but a video from Hunt
riddler
Roar Rookie
Explains and puts into perspective the whole saturday 1m attempt at a walk away. I am thinking that the ra have been extremely lucky with this panel. This definitely won't be the end of it, folau will take this to appeal. I still don't agree with folau but contracts are contracts and if there was no clause and they are relying on just a code of conduct then that is thin defence, at its best.
riddler
Roar Rookie
Absolutely ridiculous incompetence on such a scale. Really makes their positions untenable. Hopefully.
Mungbean74
Roar Rookie
Yep, here is a link to that report. https://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/wallabies/bungle-how-rugby-australia-mishandled-folaus-contract/news-story/d2f2205de93e62ab4ad5e77e4b5c4f3c Who knows what the outcome might be…