Green-Mundine is a waste of bloody time

By Matt Cleary / Expert

There’s a really good-sized list of reasons I won’t be watching Danny Green and Anthony Mundine’s fight they haven’t dubbed “Ambulance Chasing in Adelaide” but should.

Chief among them is that it’s a monumental waste of bloody time.

It is. Watching the fight would be a big waste of time, much less spending actual money, yet again, on this borderline grotesque pantomime, this parody of sport, this soul-less lunge to greed and stupidity and publicity-deprivation syndrome, well … it’s a waste of bloody time.

For a start, Mundine is 41 years old and Green is 43 years old.

It’s like, what are you doing? You’re middle-aged men, not spunk-filled pack rats. Don’t do this. You’re slow and old, and the only saving grace is the other bloke’s the same.

It’s stupid.

And as for that theatrical pre-fight “hype”, all that nose-to-nose “banter”, please. It’s a tired old game of cliched drivel. It’s laughable. It’s a veritable nonsense.

Ten years ago, Green-Mundine was a highly-hyped and quite big thing. And yet even that fight, as a contest, as a show, sort of sputtered out to nothing memorable.

And it’s because, well, neither fighter is particularly very good.

Mundine had a little bit of lightning and show-boatery, and could self-promote for Australia. And he showed heart and talent when he lost on points to Mikkel Kessler, a Viking.

And for a while people thought, ‘Wow – maybe he isn’t such a wanker.’

But he wasn’t… he wasn’t actually ever very good.

Green’s the same. Green’s worse. I went running with him once when he was fresh from Perth and training with Jeff Fenech. And he could certainly run more laps of a park in Five Dock than me.

But that was in 2001 before his training partner Glen Kelly went to the United States to be embarrassed by Roy Jones Jnr. And Green was 27 then. And not really that good.

Green became popular because he used media to promote himself as best of the batch who could shut the lippy bloke’s gob.

Green didn’t ever say it like that, of course, he didn’t have to. Because “Choc” Mundine was always shooting off his mouth with some latest bit of inflammatory gibber. And Green just had to promote himself as the man to silence The Man.

And then they had the “Fight of the Century” at the Sydney Football Stadium, and everyone got paid.

And if you think race wasn’t a reason a certain large percentage of people bought a Pay-TV subscription or a ticket to the SFS then Rocky Balboa never told Clubber Lang things ain’t so bad.

Mundine is like a carny spruiker. He’s not stupid. He knows his ‘Ali’ schtick fires up a section of Australia that can’t cop him.

The Man’s schtick will sell tickets to a punch-up with a bloke called Green. It doesn’t bring Australians closer.

Ali did it in context, in 1964, in America. I mean, we’ve got our problems in this big old lug of a country and we’ve got some scars and open wounds about white man’s subjugation of black.

But sitting down during national anthems, gobbing off shite, I don’t think it helps. Surely you can be proud of your culture and your “country” without disrespecting your fellow countrymen.

Can’t you? Can’t you not be divisive?

Another thing: I know blokes who know Mundine and say he’s as good a bloke as you could meet. That all this swagger and stuff, all the “Man” gibber-jabber, it’s all an act. That he’s a friendly, generous and good bloke.

I’d prefer that Mundine to the Ali Clone, the parody that fires up white bigots just as readily as Pauline Hanson.

Everyone would prefer that guy. And Mundine could use his profile for good.

Instead, he’s flogging tickets to a dangerous pantomime.

Dangerous? Did you read Peter FitzSimons’ column Thursday in the Herald? Say what you will about the great bandanna-ed gibber-man – and plenty do, oh yes – but he knows things about concussion, about head injury.

And effectively it comes down to this: if you get whacked about the head, your brain will bleed and you’ll sustain a brain injury.

And not just an unlucky few, everyone. And it will bleed and “hurt in a manner from which there is no coming back.”

So there’s that.

And you’d suggest that one day there’ll be no (legal) boxing as there is no (legal) dog-fighting. Mind you dog-racing was made illegal and now it’s not, and … here we are…

… still talking about reasons why Green-Mundine 2 in Adelaide is a bad idea.

Want another one? Why fund a last pay-day for two blokes and their handlers, their enablers, their people? What other reason is this on than money?

There’d be an element of publicity deprivation syndrome. An element of mid-life crisis, even, for two stars of a sport who’d reprise their glory days. A need to stay in focus. It’s a thing, it happens.

I dunno… I’ve been jack of the pair of them ten years. I just no longer care. And yet here they are, again, fighting for money, promoting themselves through the free advertising of media.

And pay-TV subscribers will ante up, again, and see an under-card of bouncers and street kids and footballers.

And Mundine will bop in to a tune of something and Green to, I dunno, Green Day, say. And then we’ll all get ready to rumble.

And then two middle-aged men will do their best, and fox and feint and throw crisp punches at one another for the first round or two, even three.

And then they’ll get tired and hold each other up, and waltz around, and do it for as long as possible.

And Mundine will show-boat (badly) and Green will burrow in and work the ribs (ineffectually) and unless one man gets lucky and makes the other (less lucky) man bleed so badly on the brain he passes out from concussion, they will do it for twelve three-minute rounds.

So watch it if you will. But I’m here to say it’s a gigantic bloody waste of time.

Adelaide can have ’em.

The Crowd Says:

2016-11-20T00:14:27+00:00

BigJ

Roar Guru


People have spent more money on worse things 1000 dollars for a year of children's tennis lessons for example

2016-11-17T06:22:42+00:00

Biggles

Guest


Should be a great night,with a top quality no name undercard going at it for their $500,lol.

2016-10-29T02:37:12+00:00

Doogs

Guest


So I gather you are saying if you don't like Mundine then you are racist against aborigines. That is just rubbish. He could be an eskimo for all I care, I just don't like his trash talk. Every time people say they are not fond of him, there is a handful of people screaming racism. I have had many friendships and working relationships with aborigines. I liked them. But that does not mean I have to like Mundine.

2016-10-29T01:03:14+00:00

Bigj

Guest


"Ivan milat is more popular" you must be joking right??? Seriously mate that is a stupid thing to say. Mundine may be a pain but he has never killed anybody please reframe from putting this stupid comments on this fourm

2016-10-28T20:20:51+00:00

Matthew H

Guest


Brook came up in weight to fight Golovkin, so I think may have had to vacate his title, but still genuinely in the lower weight class (Horne's division). Acquitted himself manfully but Golovkin was just too big and punched his lights out once he got through Brook's best and chased him down.

2016-10-28T19:18:53+00:00

Mike from tari

Guest


Two famous & rich middle age boxers is tall poppy syndrome.

2016-10-28T17:14:09+00:00

peeeko

Guest


two middle aged ok boxers isnt tall poppy syndrome.

2016-10-28T16:49:48+00:00

Bones506

Roar Guru


I am thankful I now live in the USA where boxing is a 'real' sport and you can watch top fighters in their prime. I paid US$140 a ticket for excellent seats at the Garden last year and watched GGG (36-0) and Roman Choclatito (46-0). The Mundine fight is simply a grab for cash between two fighters that are passed their prime and are unknown on the International Stage. Mundine talked about fighting the big names but to do that you need to be based in the USA. Unfortunaterly most will pay and that will likely be to watch Mundine hopefully get KO'd.

2016-10-28T13:32:31+00:00

Fraser

Roar Rookie


Not to mention the loss of speed and movement as he moves up 13kg. Mundine did actually have some power when he first started boxing, but lost it as he moved down in weight (from Super Middleweight (73-76kg) down to Super Welterweight (66.7-66.9kg).

2016-10-28T09:29:13+00:00

Pablo

Guest


Good on ya Mick - gave me a good laugh. Looks like them pesky Greens walking out really upset you. If you don't know the "counter arguments" by now, well it just means your incapable of hearing both sides of the coin - and who'd waste their time talking to a spud.

2016-10-28T08:11:53+00:00

BigJ

Roar Guru


that's exactly right, Mundine has beaten all of his rivials, Green, Geale, Soliman (x3) and Wood and without fighting Mundine their careers would not been as well known without him. Besides inside boxing circles you had ever heard of these guys before they fought choc? Danny Geale was a world champ before fighting choc and no one heard of him until the first mundine fight.

2016-10-28T05:26:44+00:00

KingCowboy

Guest


Heard somewhere that Kelly Brook vacated his title.

2016-10-28T05:17:00+00:00

Matthew H

Guest


Good call Andy, the German was way out of his depth against Horne which surprised me a little to be honest. I really hope he gets the world title fight, if he wins in that division (including Kel Brook isn't it?) then he is just awesome!.

2016-10-28T05:07:49+00:00

Andy

Guest


I've seen a few of his fights and his hands are normally up I think he was feeling confident, I think his next fight is for one of the world title fights

2016-10-28T04:58:57+00:00

Tony H

Roar Pro


Damon, Mundine's legs have gone. He used to be fast enough to make Green miss, but he's been knocked down about 6 times in his last two fights. Green will catch him and hurt him. The power is the last thing to go, and Green has that in spades.

2016-10-28T04:25:18+00:00

frank

Guest


Hard to accurately judge Mundine as a boxer given he's so widely disliked in this country by the press and public, he rarely gets the recognition he deserves. Plus having 4 governing bodies whose rankings are never similar doesn't help. This article describes him as "wasn't actually ever very good". Ring Magazine is the recognised bible of boxing and each year publishes it's annual ratings for each division. Mundine has been ranked top 5 for 6 years, along with Fenech, this is a record for Aussie born boxers. This includes 4 years at #3 with only the undefeated Ottke and Calzagne, then Calzagne and Kessler ahead of him. According to impartial Ring Magazine who judge boxers on ability alone and not public perception, he has a more impressive record that former world champs Harding, Geale, Green and Soliman. So if Mundine "wasn't actually ever very good" what does that say about those four.

2016-10-28T04:10:55+00:00

Farqueue

Guest


It will be on a Wednesday night and will get plenty of buys... people hate mundine...Ivan milat is more popular. I tolerate the stupid things he says because he played for the Dragons and was a fantastic player...wish we had someone with his flare now. Like it or not Australia has a large amount of racist people, as do most countries in the world. Working in a factory for 20 years with mainly white people I could not repeat here some of the things said about Aborigines.

2016-10-28T04:08:00+00:00

The Sturgeon

Guest


The irony of One Nation supporters and sympathisers complaining about them leaving during the speech when they constantly use the "if you don't like it leave" quote. They didn't like it, they left.

2016-10-28T03:41:52+00:00

peeeko

Roar Guru


i have a feeling, sales will flop both in tickets and TV and they will pull the pin to avoid the embarrassment. If it ends up big then that says a lot about australian society

2016-10-28T03:34:15+00:00

Matthew H

Guest


Actually I watched Jeff Horne easily dispatch a German the other week. Has a 'hands down' type style which really worries me though (you are instructed to protect yourself at all times, not just when you think you need to).

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