The AFL cannot outlaw the 'third man up' tactic

By Ryan Buckland / Expert

Here we are again – it’s late November, and the talk of the AFL town is rule changes. Normally the talk is in response to something material – this year, we’re jumping at shadows.

Around this time of year, there’s always a football story or two kicking around the annual Rules of the Game Committee process. The AFL’s collective obsession with tinkering and piecemeal incrementalism grows stronger by the year.

Tackling techniques, deliberate out of bounds, deliberate rushed behinds, actions in marking contests, prior opportunity, interchange caps, substitutes. All of these things have been tinkered with in the past five years alone – actions and reactions seemingly made with two parts ‘the game just isn’t what it used to be’, one part ‘we have a rules committee that needs something to do’, and a pinch of ‘why not’.

It’s all with the best of intentions of course; to enhance the quality of play on the field.

This year, the rising prevalence of the ‘third man up’ at around the ground stoppages seems to have put someone, somewhere offside. The tactic and its implications are set to be an item on the agenda of the annual AFL coaches’ summit, held this Friday.

There’s an element of foxes in the henhouse when it comes to asking the coaches about laws of the game; albeit in this case there is a very clear limit on the ability of the foxes to wreak havoc. It continues the long tradition of microscopic attention being applied to very specific aesthetics of the game.

The focus on incremental changes to rules and regulations is understandable – if not fully justifiable – in a game where there are so many freedoms. Most other professional sports are much more structured in their operation, interactions regulated because that’s just how their game has always been. Australian rules football is played on a large field with 36 players on it at any one time, and other than the mode of disposing of the ball, it’s something of a free-for-all.

That’s the beauty of the thing, and one of its great assets. But it is also its greatest danger, because of the scope afforded to bend and contort the rules and norms of the game.

More often than not, the innovations that coaches and tacticians derive are seen as an affront to ‘the way the game should be played’. The most glaring example of this was the conservative boundary-line ball movement approach pioneered by Michael Malthouse at Collingwood.

The end game of this was the forward press, which emerged as the dominant strategy across the league in recent years. Boundary line throw ins surged, and in the end HQ’s hand was forced – the deliberate out-of-bounds rule was tightened, reducing the pay-off of moving the ball conservatively down the wings in transition. Players who had taken a mark were given more freedom to move the ball laterally through the expansion of the protected zone around the mark.

It seemed to work – at least qualitatively because the data is, as ever, kept secret (#freethestats) – with more teams content to use the corridor and attack directly. Teams still pressed up, but the extra space afforded, and the change in the relative merits of going straight versus sideways, meant clubs were more content taking risks.

The Western Bulldogs epitomised the results that could be achieved using the game’s new strategic hierarchy. Luke Beveridge’s zone defence remained intact, but rather than trying to ape the Hawks’ aerial attack with ball in hand – as had been the rest of the league’s mode since 2013 – the Dogs became masters of the ground game. Beveridge has been rated by his peers as the best coach two years running, and in case you missed it, his team won the premiership a couple of months back.

It isn’t yet clear whether the Dogs have developed a sustainable competitive advantage – I’m still not sure what happened in September can be explained using logic and fact. Other sides will surely look to follow the leader, as is the way of the league. Rohan Connolly of The Age fleshed this out nicely a fortnight ago.

The Bulldogs example yields two insights: rule changes can have material impacts on the game, and it all comes down to coaching and tactics. That’s not to say the Dogs made it into the top eight, won four straight games as underdogs and broke a 62-year premiership-less streak because of rule changes – but it is to say they were well placed to take advantage of rule changes.

This is a roundabout way of talking about a completely unrelated rule change. Where last year there was a more fundamental challenge – numbers at the ball, and the dominance of the forward press – this year’s round of rule discussions have a tone of ‘well, we have to change something‘.

According to Champion Data, the rate of ‘third man up’ at stoppages increased from around eight per cent of stoppages in 2014 to 13.2 per cent in 2016 – a rise of about 30 per cent per annum.

In response to a request from The Roar’s own Cam Rose, Champion Data revealed some further state secrets regarding the tactic:

There’s a bunch of numbers there, so let me summarise. There is no change in the share of stoppages that result in a clearance to either team. In all, 75 per cent of third-man stoppages result in a clearance, compares to 76 per cent of more traditional contests. There is practically no difference between ball ups and throw ins, either.

One of the purported benefits of the tactic is it helps to ‘clear’ congestion. The numbers say this is likely to be a myth.

There is, however, a clear advantage to the third-man-up team in ball ups (around the ground stoppages) for sides that execute effectively. Teams that manufacture a hit out from a ball up where they have a third man jump win a clearance 44 per cent of the time, substantially more frequently than their opponents (32%). This also compares favourably to conventional ruck contests at ball ups, where the win percentages sat at 39 per cent and 36 per cent, respectively.

By contrast, third man up appears to be negative at throw ins. A team that manufactures a hit out from a boundary throw in where they have a third man up jump wins a clearance 37 per cent of the time, compared to 35 per cent for their opponents. A more conventional set up results in a 42 per cent clearance win rate in the event of a hit out, versus 34 per cent for their opponents.

This tells us not all stoppages are created equal. Without further data it’s hard to dig much deeper, but it suggests the more rapid nature of ball ups relative to boundary throw ins (speeding up the time between stopping the play and getting the ball in the air at ball ups was a directive of the umpiring department two years ago) might contribute to the tactic’s effectiveness. Having less time to structure up creates more variability, and allows players the chance to set up a third man play.

The other caveat is this data doesn’t consider clearance quality: we don’t know how frequently these clearances result in scores. We also don’t know the extent to which going ‘third man up’ is optimal – like most good things, there’s likely to be a point where indulging more and more starts to deliver less and less. This is doubly so given the tactic is by its nature a surprise.

Anywho, third man up has been the talk of the week, and that talk will only heat up following the coaches’ summit. There are strong arguments on both sides of the debate.

In summary, the keepers say restricting the ability for players to contest the ball runs counter to the open ethos of the code. The clampers say it is ugly, and threatens the long-term survival prospects of an already endangered ruckman species.

It will surprise you to learn that I think both sides of the argument have merit. However, the only way forward is for the tactic to be retained with one key tweak.

The death of the ruckman isn’t going to come about as a result of the increasing use of third man up. The more likely mode of extinction will be continued downward pressure on the use of the interchange, and the need for teams to have more flexibility built into their line ups. There were around 55 stoppages per game in 2016, and as long as that number remains above single digits clubs will still need at least one specialist ruckman – and in many cases two are required.

Third man up can produce some weird-looking stoppage situations, and the ensuing play can often prove chaotic. But that’s part of the beauty of the tactic – it’s a change up, and teams that can harness it effectively can weave all kinds of magic.

It can also lead to disaster.

Having few restrictions on the movement of players is one of Australian rules’ founding principles and fundamental tenants. Placing restrictions on the ability for players to go third man up would go against four of the nine guiding principles in the AFL’s own Laws of the Game Charter, written up as a far-less-important-than-the-real-thing Bill of Rights for the code.

The legislative lens alone says this is not something that should be changed. The data says it can be effective when employed in the right situations. The concerns of the clampers are overblown. The ability for players to go third man up at stoppages must be retained.

Post-script: But, we can have our cake and eat it here. Something has to change, otherwise these profligate committees and summits are all for nothing.

Far too often in 2016, umpires were paying blocking free kicks to third man jumpers who were trying to contest but were impeded in a manner normally reserved for midfielders. By too many I mean any number greater than zero, because it shouldn’t happen.

At every stoppage, each team should require a player to raise their hand and designate themselves as the ‘contest ruckman’. This player is unable to be blocked and must have a clear run at the ball, as the rules currently dictate. Every other player in and around the stoppage is subject to normal rules regarding blocking and shepherding – there can’t be any holding or pushing in the back, but otherwise the third man jumper has to be made to work for his hit out.

The Crowd Says:

2016-12-01T20:03:25+00:00

PF

Guest


To reduce the ‘third man up’ tactic at the ruck contests (other than a centre bounce), the players not contesting the football as the Ruck could be required to maintain a 5m distance from each Ruck until the football leaves the Umpire’s hand. The 5m is based on the 5m described in Law 16.1 Standing The Mark and the Protected Area. With players contesting the football as the Ruck at a ruck contest (other than a centre bounce) also being required to be separated by at least one metre prior to the football leaving the Umpire’s hand, the time and space provided by the 5m and 1m would be similar to that provided to players contesting the football as the Ruck at a centre bounce which would reduce the ‘third man up’ tactic and also congestion. A Free Kick would be awarded to the Ruck of the opposing team if a player contravenes 5m distance from each Ruck until the football leaves the Umpire’s hand. If in the opinion of the field Umpire players from both teams contravene the 5m at the same time, the field Umpire would recall the throw up or throw in of the football. If using the 5m distance and the existing laws you would not have to outlaw the ‘third man up’ tactic it would probably just make it more difficult for the ‘third man up’ tactic to be effective. Also, Laws 11.3.5(a) - Contesting the Centre Bounce & 15.4.5(o) - Prohibited Contact and Payment of Free Kick both refer to players who are to contest the football as the Ruck being nominated to the field Umpire prior to the bounce, throw up or boundary throw in.

2016-11-24T01:32:36+00:00

Brendon the 1st

Guest


I think loosening the over the shoulder rule would have a positive impact at ruck stoppages, it really needs to be past the point of the shoulder definitively, not just one that starts at the shoulder and accidentally slides up. This would also help to stop the Thomas' and Hewett's of the comp ducking into tackles. The single biggest problem in the game at the moment IMO

2016-11-24T01:23:51+00:00

Brendon the 1st

Guest


Yeah I probably should have worded that differently, I think it should be policed the same way as the deliberate out of bounds.

2016-11-23T23:34:34+00:00

Liam

Guest


See, you're talking very specifically about third man ups, where a huge part of the problem is the growing amount of ruck infringements that only an umpire is aware about, or that are paid sometimes but not others, or are completely ignored when it comes to third man up situations. Third man up is used generally to nullify a dominant ruckman; the regular ruck will try to protect the ball drop without looking like that's what he's doing, while the third man up takes the tap. This is allowed, but sometimes the umpires will find a block when this doesn't occur, or a push in the back, or hands above the shoulder, or something equally ridiculous to pay one way, and interpretations aren't even consistent across games. I'm not criticising the umpires here, either. They call the game as they see it, but the rules themselves are entirely too complicated when it comes to ruck contests, and another rule just added to the pile would make things worse. Simplify the thing, to make it so that a viewer has some clue as to why something is paid (and remove the ridiculous contact based frees in ruck contests; the idea is precisely to block or impede your opponent whilst still tapping the ball, the eyes-off-it rule is stupid in the extreme) and add that any attempt to impede the ruck's approach from outside the contest results in a free against. Then pay it against the third man up who does exactly that.

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2016-11-23T12:04:03+00:00

Ryan Buckland

Expert


Roarers know we cook the figurative Blue Sky on the AFL world - everything else is junk in comparison. (that's a Breaking Bad reference for those playing at home)

2016-11-23T10:30:29+00:00

Brett

Guest


At the centre bounce only the two nominated ruckman are allowed inside the centre circle to compete ono-on-one at the centre bounce. No third man up allowed.

2016-11-23T10:25:06+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


No they don't ... at least not unless they bring in this stupid 3rd man rule.

2016-11-23T09:27:16+00:00

D Fitz

Roar Rookie


Brendon, There already exists an intentional behind rule. The umpires do not police it properly.

2016-11-23T08:32:44+00:00

Brendon the 1st

Guest


Loved the deliberate rule, nothing ridiculous about stopping teams using the boundary as an out, you might get one or two that's wrong, but that's footy. Totally enhanced the game and provided a few brilliant moments with the riolis and Wingards of the game keeping the ball in and showing some magic. Now to bring in the deliberate behind rule and completely get rid of a blight on the game.

2016-11-23T08:24:15+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


Good question to ask on this thread, though Axle. Ryan's dad was a quality wicketkeeper.

2016-11-23T08:22:26+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


He was not the right player to send into 3rd man up situations. He catches the ball. Matty Wade is the only one who can bring the ball to ground.

2016-11-23T07:08:38+00:00

Axle and the Guru

Guest


What did Peter Nevill do wrong? If they feel as though they need a spinner in the game so badly then wouldn't they want the better keeper to spin bowling?

2016-11-23T05:55:36+00:00

me too

Guest


"other than the mode of disposing of the ball, it’s something of a free-for-all." i reckon the way the doggies play, that disposing of the ball has become something of a free-for-all too!

2016-11-23T05:33:51+00:00

Batman

Guest


I Agree. Remember Sandiland suspensed just trying to protect himself from 3rd man up. It is mostly used by teams against more dominate ruckman who deserve some protection. In some cases it's so crowded they can't even get to the ball. Give them some space so we can enjoy the ruck contest. I dislike the quick throw-up for the same reason as it lessens the ruck contest as the ruckmen are not in position.

2016-11-23T04:56:54+00:00

XI

Roar Guru


I agree 100%.

2016-11-23T04:30:20+00:00

Paul D

Roar Guru


I reckon they will outlaw it, and they will try and justify it through player welfare/safety reasons, much as they have most other rule changes for aesthetic reasons in recent years.

2016-11-23T04:21:45+00:00

Brett

Guest


They already get legislated ono-on-one contests at the centre bounce and that works pretty well. Why not around the ground?

2016-11-23T03:48:14+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


Why should Ruckman get legislated one-on-one contests? No other position does.

2016-11-23T02:34:41+00:00

Cameron Rose

Expert


I wrote a piece mid-2015 about rules that I would change (http://www.theroar.com.au/2015/07/28/rule-changes-to-improve-the-game/), and ending third man up in the ruck was one of them. Once again, the Roar ahead of the game! At the time I wrote the below, and I haven't changed my mind. I'm not going to kill myself if it gets kept, but I don't think it adds anything to the spectacle or my enjoyment of the game, and in fact slightly detracts from it. "No third man up in the ruck The third man up in the ruck has become an obsession for some clubs this season, for reasons passing beyond comprehension. It needs to be disallowed via a rule change. Why do we want players like Dyson Heppell, Nat Fyfe, Callan Ward, Ollie Wines, Luke Parker, Marcus Bontempelli and Patrick Dangerfield jumping up at ruck contests trying to win hit outs rather than being there to do what they do best – win the contested ball at ground level. Also, we want to protect the sanctity of ruckmen, and ensure there is a place in our game for all body types. Let’s let the big men go at each other unencumbered." It looks ugly and ridiculous, adding nothing to the game and in fact only detracting from it.

2016-11-23T02:08:50+00:00

Perry Bridge

Guest


The main problem I have with 3rd man up is the ruck double teaming some sides employ - not to win contests - but to physically wear down their opponent (usually one of the premier rucks in the competition). It's a nullification strategy. As that stats show - it doesn't provide any increase in clearances. The best example for the year gone was Rnd 6 when the Doggies used Campbell and Roughead against Goldstein. Put it this way - the ball was rarely their object - what was their object was knees into Goldstein. You can't do that to a guy at ground level but 3rd man up is given full scope to jump into the opposition ruckman. It's 'dirty' footy. For me - that just becomes a no go area. In Supers/Masters you concede a free for third man up and that works just fine. Each team just has to be organised to know who is going up and nominate. Having stopped bouncing around the ground there's no concern about a bad bounce. So it should be doable.

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