State of Origin 2: The definitive stats preview

By Tim Gore / Expert

Did you know that in the history of State of Origin three-game series, 25 of them have been won by the side that won the first game?

That’s 73.5 per cent of the time. However, on nine of those occasions, the series still went to a decider.

Further, seven times the side that has won the first game of the series has ended up losing the series – just like NSW did last year. That’s 20 per cent of the time.

Tim’s note: I never include 1997 games due to it being a stupid split competition and devoid of meaning.

So, while 16 times the side that won the first game wrapped up the series in Game 2, don’t write the series off just yet.

Game 1 was a whole lot closer than I predicted with the Blues nowhere near as dominant as I thought they would be.

Let’s go and look at the stats leading into this game.

Age, weight and minutes in the legs = Even

NSW Age Minutes Weight QLD Age Minutes Weight
James Tedesco 25 80 96 Billy Slater 35 80 89
Tom Trbojevic 21 80.2 102 Valentine Holmes 22 80 85
James Roberts 25 79.2 93 Greg Inglis 31 76 105
Latrell Mitchell 21 76.6 104 Will Chambers 30 80 100
Josh Addo-Carr 22 79.7 86 Dane Gagai 27 80 91
James Maloney 31 80 83 Cameron Munster 23 80 89
Nathan Cleary 20 74.3 92 Ben Hunt 28 77.2 87
Matt Prior 31 58.1 107 Dylan Napa 25 45.6 109
Damien Cook 27 79.4 86 Andrew McCullough 28 74.2 90
David Klemmer 24 55.2 116 Jarrod Wallace 26 49 108
Tyson Frizell 26 74.2 108 Gavin Cooper 32 78.2 108
Boyd Cordner 26 76.4 102 Felise Kaufusi 26 78.3 112
Jake Trbojevic 24 76.9 107 Josh McGuire 28 64.5 106
Jack de Belin 27 57.6 107 Kalyn Ponga 20 79.7 92
Paul Vaughan 27 51.1 110 Josh Papalii 26 67.5 110
Tyrone Peachey 26 72 93 Coen Hess 21 74 110
Angus Crichton 22 79.8 102 Jai Arrow 22 56.1 101
Average 25 72.4 99.6 Average 26.5 71.8 99.5
Total 425 1230.7 1694 Total 450 1220.3 1692
Forwards 26 / 234 67.6 / 609 105 / 945 Forwards 26 / 234 65.3 / 587 106 / 954
Backs 23.9 / 191 77.72 / 622 93.6 / 749 Backs 27 / 216 79.1 / 633 92.2 / 738

It’s a big happy birthday to Damien Cook, the cousin of former gun touchie Luke Potter. The Rabbitoh rake turns 27 the day before the game. The NSW side is a year on average younger than the Queenslanders.

It’s even in the forwards. However, the Maroons backs are almost three years older on average.

There is just two kilograms difference in total weights of the size in a freakish match up.

NSW has a paltry ten extra minutes in their legs which adds up to 36 seconds a player on average. Not exactly a distinct advantage there.

Runs and metres = NSW by a length

NSW Runs Metres QLD Runs Metres
James Tedesco 15.7 170 Billy Slater 11.4 95
Tom Trbojevic 14.8 147 Valentine Holmes 11.2 125
James Roberts 8.6 79 Greg Inglis 11.6 107
Latrell Mitchell 6.9 74 Will Chambers 11.1 93
Josh Addo-Carr 10.7 123 Dane Gagai 12.8 108
James Maloney 5.3 52 Cameron Munster 9.6 88
Nathan Cleary 6.4 49 Ben Hunt 4.4 41
Matt Prior 10.9 100 Dylan Napa 8.9 78
Damien Cook 7.5 93 Andrew McCullough 4.5 41
David Klemmer 17.7 171 Jarrod Wallace 12.9 111
Tyson Frizell 10.6 100 Gavin Cooper 9.4 68
Boyd Cordner 13 113 Felise Kaufusi 8.3 72
Jake Trbojevic 13.4 118 Josh McGuire 13.4 118
Jack de Belin 10.9 96 Kalyn Ponga 12.5 118
Paul Vaughan 13.6 129 Josh Papalii 13.5 123
Tyrone Peachey 11 100 Coen Hess 12.2 96
Angus Crichton 15.4 119 Jai Arrow 15.5 139
Average 11.3 107.8 Average 10.8 95.4
Total 192.4 1833 Total 183.2 1621
Forwards 12.6 / 113 115.4 / 1039 Forwards 10.95 / 98.6 94 / 846
Backs 9.9 / 79.4 99.3 / 794 Backs 10.6 / 84.6 96.9 / 775

While there is only a difference of ten runs between the sides, NSW have 212 extra metres a game over the Queenslanders. That is a very scary statistic for Kevin Walters. And it is clear where those metres are: in the forwards.

NSW have just one forward – Jack De Belin – who makes fewer than 100 metres a game. Queensland have four: Coen Hess, Gavin Cooper, Felise Kaufusi and Dylan Napa.

In Game 1 only one Maroon forward – Felise Kaufusi – made over 100 metres. Only three made over 82, Dylan Napa’s insipid return. Jarrod Wallace had a stinker, making just 36 metres. Four Blues forwards made over 100 metres.

The Maroon forwards must rectify this gulf in Game 2 if their side is to prevail.

In the outside backs for both sides only James Roberts made less than 100 metres, with Valentine Holmes and James Tedesco both cracking the double ton.

James Tedesco and the Blues backs ran wild (Photo by Scott Barbour/Getty Images)

Tackling = NSW, just

NSW Tackles Missed Tackles QLD Tackles Missed Tackles
James Tedesco 5.2 0.6 Billy Slater 4 1.1
Tom Trbojevic 4.4 1.2 Valentine Holmes 2.7 1.6
James Roberts 12.4 1.2 Greg Inglis 7.2 1
Latrell Mitchell 8.8 1.3 Will Chambers 13 3
Josh Addo-Carr 3.6 0.7 Dane Gagai 15.5 2.9
James Maloney 11.6 5.8 Cameron Munster 17.9 2.4
Nathan Cleary 14.3 0.6 Ben Hunt 15.8 3.8
Matt Prior 24.7 1.6 Dylan Napa 20.8 1.9
Damien Cook 39 2.4 Andrew McCullough 39.4 0.8
David Klemmer 20.4 1.3 Jarrod Wallace 24.5 1
Tyson Frizell 24.9 1.5 Gavin Cooper 26.3 2.1
Boyd Cordner 26.2 1.6 Felise Kaufusi 30.2 1.5
Jake Trbojevic 38 1.6 Josh McGuire 26.7 2.1
Jack de Belin 26.9 1 Kalyn Ponga 4.3 1.6
Paul Vaughan 23.1 1.1 Josh Papalii 23.2 1.3
Tyrone Peachey 12.8 2.2 Coen Hess 31.3 1.6
Angus Crichton 31.3 2.2 Jai Arrow 28.2 1.7
Average 19.3 Average 19.5
Total 327.6 27.9 Total 331 31.4
Forwards 28.3 / 254.5 14.3 Forwards 27.8 / 250.6 14
Backs 9.1 / 73.1 13.6 Backs 10 / 80.4 17.4

Both sides have virtually the same tackling capacity at around 330 a game per side. NSW has two 30+ tacklers in Damien Cook and Jake Trbojevic. Queensland has three: Felise Kaufusi, Andrew McCullough and Coen Hess.

When it comes to missed tackles NSW has a 3.5 missed tackle edge. Those extra misses are all in the backs.

Ben Hunt (3.8), Will Chambers (3) and Dane Gagai (2.9) will all be targeted. The Maroons will try and target my favourite James Maloney as he averages 5.8 missed tackles a game this season. But they tried that in Game 1 and he only missed two.

Queensland missed 38 tackles to NSW 19 in Game 1 and it as the decisive statistic. Some players had absolute shockers. Kaufusi and Chambers both missed seven each, with Cam Munster and Dylan Napa both missing six each. I’m surprised Napa has held his spot. I’d have had Tim Glasby in there without a second thought.

You can guarantee that Brad Fittler will have his troops running at top speed at those targets to try and expose them again.

Breaking and scoring = NSW

NSW Tackle breaks Line breaks Try Assists Tries QLD Tackle breaks Line breaks Try Assists Tries
James Tedesco 4.7 0.8 0.5 4 Billy Slater 2.9 0.4 0.8 4
Tom Trbojevic 4.4 0.8 0.8 2 Valentine Holmes 2.5 0.8 0.2 12
James Roberts 3.5 0.5 0.4 6 Greg Inglis 1.9 0.5 0.3 7
Latrell Mitchell 4 0.6 0.2 6 Will Chambers 1.5 0.3 0.1 2
Josh Addo-Carr 3.7 0.9 0.2 14 Dane Gagai 2.8 0.2 0.2 1
James Maloney 1.6 0.2 0.8 2 Cameron Munster 2.9 0.4 0.9 1
Nathan Cleary 2.1 0.3 0.9 1 Ben Hunt 2.9 0.3 0.9 3
Matt Prior 0.7 0.1 1 1 Dylan Napa 0.5 0.1 0 0
Damien Cook 3.3 0.7 0.4 3 Andrew McCullough 0.6 0.2 0.2 2
David Klemmer 1.2 0 0.1 0 Jarrod Wallace 0.8 0.1 0 2
Tyson Frizell 1.4 0.1 0 4 Gavin Cooper 0.9 0.4 0 4
Boyd Cordner 1.2 0.1 0.1 1 Felise Kaufusi 0.6 0.4 0.2 3
Jake Trbojevic 0.9 0.3 0.1 4 Josh McGuire 1.3 0 0 0
Jack de Belin 1.9 0.3 0 3 Kalyn Ponga 5.7 0.7 0.9 5
Paul Vaughan 1.6 0.1 0 2 Josh Papalii 2.2 0.4 0.2 3
Tyrone Peachey 3.1 0.4 0.2 6 Coen Hess 2.5 0.4 0 4
Angus Crichton 2.2 0.2 0.2 2 Jai Arrow 1.7 0.2 0 2
Average Average
Total 41.5 6.4 5.9 61 Total 34.2 5.8 4.9 55
Forwards 14.4 1.9 1.9 20 Forwards 11.1 2.2 0.6 20
Backs 27.1 4.5 4 41 Backs 23.1 3.6 4.3 35

The Blues are better in every category here in an ominous projection for the Maroons. The Blues make seven more tackle breaks, have six more tries in them, while being better at both line breaking and try assisting.

While neither sides forwards are particularly noteworthy when it comes to tackle breaking (excluding Cook), the NSW backs are tackle breaking machines.

The only reason the Maroons are close in regard to backline tackle breaks is that Kalyn Ponga has come into it with his 5.7 a game. There is a lot of pressure on the kid. However, gee he is good. He could just be what the Maroons need.

The two players who really broke the game open for the Blues were Tedesco and Cook and both did it as a result of their superb tackle and line breaking abilities. Tedesco made 11 tackle breaks in game one, Addo-Carr nine and Latrell Mitchell six.

The Maroons will know that cannot be allowed to repeat. Greg Inglis made five tackle breaks for his side, in a performance that was reminiscent of Mal Meninga at his peak.

Foulers and fumblers = Queensland

NSW Penalties Errors Sin Bins QLD Penalties Errors Sin Bins
James Tedesco 0.1 1.6 0 Billy Slater 0.1 0.9 0
Tom Trbojevic 0 1.5 0 Valentine Holmes 0.1 1 0
James Roberts 0.5 0.4 0 Greg Inglis 0.5 0.5 0
Latrell Mitchell 1 1 2 Will Chambers 0.6 1.3 0
Josh Addo-Carr 0.3 1 1 Dane Gagai 0.4 1.1 0
James Maloney 0.8 1.7 0 Cameron Munster 1.1 0.9 0
Nathan Cleary 0.4 1.2 0 Ben Hunt 0.6 0.9 0
Matt Prior 0.7 0.3 0 Dylan Napa 0.9 0.1 1
Damien Cook 0.8 1 0 Andrew McCullough 0.6 0.5 0
David Klemmer 0.6 0.3 1 Jarrod Wallace 1.2 0.5 1
Tyson Frizell 0.7 0.4 0 Gavin Cooper 0.4 1 0
Boyd Cordner 0.4 0.5 0 Felise Kaufusi 0.3 0.5 0
Jake Trbojevic 1.4 0.4 2 Josh McGuire 0.9 0.1 0
Jack de Belin 0.8 0.4 1 Kalyn Ponga 0.3 1.3 0
Paul Vaughan 0.4 0.2 0 Josh Papalii 0.6 0.6 0
Tyrone Peachey 1 0.6 1 Coen Hess 1.1 0.6 0
Angus Crichton 0.9 1.3 0 Jai Arrow 0.7 0.2 0
Average Average
Total 10.8 13.8 8 Total 10.4 12 2
Forwards 6.7 4.8 4 Forwards 6.7 4.1 2
Backs 4.1 9.3 4 Backs 3.7 7.9 0

The penalties here are almost even. However, as we saw in Game 1 (and as we know from experience) the referees swallow their whistles in big games, choosing not to get in the way of the entertainment.

They are window dressing in State of Origin. So it doesn’t really matter that Bernie Sutton has again left out the best referee, Matt Cecchin, and bizarrely persisted with Ash Klein, who he himself demoted after Round 3 and who made two of the most inexplicably appalling decisions from the Wests Tigers-Raiders video refs bunker that I think anyone has ever seen.

If Gerry Sutton and Ash Klein blow more than ten penalties combined in this game I’ll be stunned.

This also renders the sin bin stat – that sees Queensland with nominally quite the advantage – null and void of meaning too.

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So the only stat that carries any weight here is there errors where Queensland are two to the good of NSW. Tommy Turbo will get targeted again by the Maroons, who will be hoping that he has one of his off handling days. Young Kalyn Ponga will have the mother of all blow torches applied to his belly.

The errors could be telling. Who knows? If Jimmy Maloney’s forward pass to Addo-Carr had been called an error the result in Game 1 could have been different.

Experience = Queensland

NSW Origin Games QLD Origin Games
James Tedesco 5 Billy Slater 29
Tom Trbojevic 1 Valentine Holmes 3
James Roberts 1 Greg Inglis 31
Latrell Mitchell 1 Will Chambers 8
Josh Addo-Carr 1 Dane Gagai 8
James Maloney 11 Cameron Munster 2
Nathan Cleary 1 Ben Hunt 2
Matt Prior 0 Dylan Napa 4
Damien Cook 1 Andrew McCullough 1
David Klemmer 10 Jarrod Wallace 3
Tyson Frizell 6 Gavin Cooper 5
Boyd Cordner 10 Felise Kaufusi 1
Jake Trbojevic 4 Josh McGuire 9
Jack de Belin 1 Kalyn Ponga 0
Paul Vaughan 1 Josh Papalii 10
Tyrone Peachey 1 Coen Hess 3
Angus Crichton 1 Jai Arrow 1
Average 3.3 Average 7.1
Total 56 Total 120
Forwards 3.8 / 34 Forwards 4.1 / 37
Backs 2.75 / 22 Backs 10.4 / 83

Almost all of Queensland’s 64 games of extra State of Origin experience belongs to Billy Slater and Greg Inglis. And that experience may well be telling.

Inglis showed us in Game One, in no uncertain terms, that he understood exactly what it took to lead his state. Further, Billy Slater is a talker and organiser par excellence.

If his hamstring allows him onto the paddock the Queenslanders will grow an extra leg in attack and defence.

Greg Inglis of the Maroons (Photo by Michael Dodge/Getty Images)

James Maloney will be the third most experienced Origin player with eleven appearances. With Dave Klemmer, Boyd Cordner and Josh Papalii each having ten.

Kalyn Ponga will be the 193rd player to pull on the Queensland Maroon Jersey. Matt Prior will be Blue number 268.

Those doubting 31-year-old Prior’s suitability for this gig need to remember his role in the 2016 semi-final against the Raiders. The Sharks lost Paul Gallen pre game and Wade Graham just minutes in. Prior stood up – and how.

He made 22 runs for 220+ metres, scoring a try and setting one up. Add to that 35 tackles. This from a bloke whose career averages are ten runs a game for 90 metres, with 25 tackles. He over doubled his usual effort that night.

The Sharks might not even have got to a preliminary final without that freak effort. This game may well be another of his out of the box performances.

Who is going to win and why?
You can never write off the Maroons. They have a history of making NSW look stupid. They did it last year oh so well.

They brought Slater back and replaced Myles, Thaiday, Guerra and Lilyman with Glasby, Wallace, Hess and Cooper. It was enough to stem the bleeding and turn the tide.

However, for this game they’ve retained the insipid Napa and the ageing Cooper. They have no Cam Smith or Johnathan Thurston. There is no Cooper Cronk or Michael Morgan.

Opposing them is a team who are no longer chockers with virgins. A team with their tails up. A team at home in front of their home crowd. A team with mongrel. A team with grunt.

And speed. So much speed.

I can’t see the Maroons – as brave as they are – being able to deny the Blues victory.

NSW by 20

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2018-06-22T07:27:06+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


Just gotta gut feeling. If Maloney had kicked well last game it woulda been 14.

AUTHOR

2018-06-22T07:25:44+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


Thanks TR. next time I’m with uncle Steve at Halliday’s point I must make the extra journey to share a beer with you.

2018-06-22T02:04:08+00:00

Justine

Guest


I really hope your right Tim..... 20 is a massive margin in Origin... I'll be happy with 1 point. Just as long as NSW WIN!!

2018-06-22T02:01:14+00:00

Albo

Guest


Cleary also does a very good job in defence himself. He has plenty of traffic aimed at him, but he can tackle and misses very little. That's why Munster & Inglis produced little on that left side last match. Now Maloney, that's another kettle of fish and his frailties in defence are well documented.

2018-06-22T01:47:41+00:00

Beetle

Roar Rookie


Game 3 wasn't sold out last year?? Now you're just making stuff up. It was a record crowd at Suncorp I should know because I was there. And if I were you I wouldn't exactly be regretting that Thurston and co. aren't playing, because if they were then NSW wouldn't be winning the series that is for sure. My proof? The last 12 years

2018-06-21T23:16:08+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


That's some quality stuff TR. NSWRL sells their game for a profit plus lobbies the ARL to buy a game away from Qld - and still lost, then you call QRL "dirty". For all the NSW team dominance, I can buy tickets in every section for Sunday right now. Suncorp is sold out and tickets to Suncorp are $200 unlike the $60 at ANZ. "State of Origin would have died long ago if QLD had lost 12 out of 13 series" It won't because NSW can't.

2018-06-21T23:05:38+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


Well said Tim. Seems Johnny here would not leave his $50k job for a $250k job to do exactly the same thing. That definitely speaks of moral superiority.

2018-06-21T23:01:31+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


I understand the theory of your position but it appears much like the political editors of your home state - it should be fair and balanced but... However, credit where it is due, you did predict a Qld win in this very column last year and that G1 was far more dominant. Like last year though, Billy will make a difference A NSW win may spice up the contest but us Qlders are comfortable in the knowledge that Pearce will excel at the Knights be rushed back in so all will be right in the world again. Plus those NSW fans can go OTT after a series victory - from what I remember ;)

2018-06-21T22:45:38+00:00

Don

Roar Rookie


I think game 1 showed clearly that NRL player stats, whilst useful as a form guide to justify selections, are near useless when used in a rep side bringing unfamiliar faces together. All the forwards NRL run meters and tackle busts etc meant little when QLD were well on top of the NSW pack for ages in game 1. QLD weren’t beaten because of the forwards efforts by either side. A speedy creative hooker and an amazing effort by the fullback were the difference. And if QLD can sort out their defence - missing 55 tackles is ridiculous- then we should see a much closer game. For mine, I cannot understand why some forwards aren’t targeting Maloney and Cleary more. Even in NRL games it’s surprising that we aren’t seeing more hits on Cleary and him being worked over while on the ground or off the ball. I’m not an advocate for violent play but Cleary is getting a bit of a “rails run” in first grade compared with some other guys. Maybe his forwards do a better job protecting him?

2018-06-21T22:44:36+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


I think game 2 comes down to execution. NSW were pretty ruthless in converting opportunities while Queensland squandered possession at the attacking end of the paddock pretty cheaply. Feels weird saying that after 14 years. Qld forwards held NSW and despite some poor numbers from some of their players were on top for periods of the game. Do NSW, who had a lot of 8-9/10 performances, have improvement in them? Can Queensland execute better this time round? Intriguing game again...but I’ve got to say the build up to a Sunday game has left me a bit cold...doesn’t seem to have the usual intensity.

2018-06-21T22:40:09+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


If a team is 1-0 down in a three game series, then purely mathematically they have a 25% chance of winning the series (WW is one of four possible outcomes, excluding draws). So a 73.5% success rate for the team that is 1-0 up is slightly unders.

AUTHOR

2018-06-21T22:26:54+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


“I don’t look forward to writing this years Christmas letter.” “Nor I to read it...”

2018-06-21T22:06:48+00:00

Brendon

Guest


I think Slater makes all the difference, I highly doubt we see a 20 point smashing. Tedesco's run doesn't go through in game 1 with Slater, he defends head and shoulders above Morgan. The attack is more coordinated as well with him on board. Add in the spark that Ponga brings in when Billy shifts to 5/8, Munster to centre, and you have a team that dominates in attack. Call me crazy, I see an upset coming here, with QLD using the quick play tactics of NSW against them. QLD by 10.

2018-06-21T21:16:40+00:00

Taree Raider

Guest


As usual Tim, brilliant. You also forgot to mention that every time a game is not played in Brisbane or Sydney, it is the Sydney game that misses out. Those dirty Queenslanders never give up two home games in a series. You also didn't mention passion. NSW have it in spades, game 3 last year in Brisbane they couldn't sell out the stadium because it looked like QLD would loose. NSW fans show up regardless, hoping for a result. State of Origin would have died long ago if QLD had lost 12 out of 13 series. My only regret about this Sunday night will be that SMITH, THURSTON, CRONK & SCOTT won't be there to loose the series.

2018-06-21T12:56:34+00:00

Ziusudra

Guest


Sadly, I concur with Tim's analysis. The dynasty is over and NSW will win. Aside from Inglis and Slater, holdovers from the great days both, only Munster on the Maroon side is clearly superior to his sky blue opposite. There are quite a few Blues who outmatch their Qld counterpart. Never thought I'd see a Qld pack that couldn't lift but, McGuire and Papalii aside, they dont look up to it. NSW are due a win, and this will be their year. Good luck to them. Sad to see the greats like GI and Billy lose, but even if Cronk and Smith were on board, they couldnt fix the forward mismatch. Hope Ponga goes well.

AUTHOR

2018-06-21T11:21:48+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


Really? Really John? 20 years on from that debacle you are still trying to say one side was morally superior to the other?!? It was two mega rich men fighting over broadcast rights and using us all as pawns. It ended because they compromised. 1997 was a wasted year with no proper comp. I’ll never count it. Nor will I tolerate people dredging up those crap sentiments that are best left in the rubbish bin of history.

2018-06-21T11:14:48+00:00

Brian George

Guest


Ffaaarrrkkk Tim I'm glad I've never been sat next to you at any function I've ever attended. You make the founding member of the Austin 1800 club of Oceania sound fascinating.

2018-06-21T09:36:41+00:00

John

Guest


It would be good for the game if NSW got up, preferably not by that margin though. I would say it would probably be better for the game if QLD won this and NSW won the 3rd.

2018-06-21T09:13:18+00:00

John Tran

Guest


For those of us who weren’t sellouts in Superleague 1997 absolutely counts. It certainly mattered to the players. And why then wouldn’t you exclude 1995? No scummy SL players there either...

AUTHOR

2018-06-21T08:11:15+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


Nathaniel, we’ve been through this. I’m from the ACT. I’m a man who wore Steve Walters #9 for many years. I love the contest but I’m neither one nor the other. Mind you, it’s probably good for the game if NSW gets up.

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