Ashes questions have to dictate Brisbane and Canberra selections

By Brett McKay / Expert

Just over two hours of play in two days means we can chalk one up for the mizzly Sydney weather; rain that was too heavy to play through but not really heavy enough to actually wet anything, and light that was kind of dim but not really so dark that you’d drive home with the lights on.

Did the drawn SCG Test actually save the Australians from humiliating defeat, or did it cost them the opportunity to make the hard, but not-unwarranted call on a couple of batsmen?

The former is definitely true, but I can’t help but fear the latter will be used to take a similar squad into the two-Test series against Sri Lanka, to be played in Brisbane and Canberra in late January-early February.

And that would be a huge mistake, but it actually gets worse.

Rather ridiculously, the squad for the series will be named not after the selectors use the ODIs as a chance to look at a few options against international opposition, but in fact this week – possibly as soon as Wednesday.

Under normal circumstances this would be straight-out madness, but after what’s gone on selection-wise this summer already, it may not even be in the semi-finals for stupidity.

With just these two Tests before the Ashes kicks off at Edgbaston on August 1, there is no longer the time nor any credit left over from the Perth win to give one last go to guys who’ve essentially failed in the last four.

Despite this news and despite what this news does for the confidence that some hard decisions will be made, these are the questions that really should be guiding selections for the uppcoming Tests.

Do Steve Smith and David Warner come straight back into the top six?
I always thought to Smith would come straight back in and that Warner might have a harder time, but the ongoing struggle to find an opening partnership almost certainly ensures Warner has to come straight back, too.

There’s been a bit of commentary over the last few days about the possibility of a Warner-Marcus Harris partnership for Edgbaston, and I’m warming to that idea.

Cameron Bancroft doesn’t come straight back in – he’s not a better option than Matt Renshaw or Joe Burns, either.

And if the answer to the Smith and Warner question is ‘yes’, then the Sri Lanka Tests need to be the audition for the remaining batting spots. Assuming a squad of 17 players for England, as per the last two tours, the split is going to be something like seven bats, seven bowlers, an allrounder, and two wicketkeepers.

Already, the current top six plus Smith and Warner is too many, and that’s without adding Marcus Stoinis, Glenn Maxwell or Mitchell Marsh to the mix.

Harris is worth persisting with. Usman Khawaja will be among the first bats picked. Marnus Labuschagne, Shaun Marsh, Travis Head and Peter Handscomb are all far from certain. Even less so if Renshaw and Burns or other players outside the squad are genuinely in the mix as you’d hope they are, after a series in which Harris’ 79 is the lowest Australian high score for a series in a century.

Australia’s two best batsmen are out of action until the Ashes.(AFP PHOTO / GREG WOOD)

If Smith and Warner do come straight back in, is Shaun Marsh still needed?
The need for Marsh to be the senior member of the middle order in this time of crisis was there and justified, but he failed miserably. If Smith and Warner do come straight back in, it’s really hard to see how Marsh can still command a place.

And if that’s the case, then there’s really no point playing him in Brisbane and Canberra.

I like Marsh as a bat. On his day, there aren’t many better batsmen in Australia to watch. But at 35 years of age, and an eighth series average under 30 from 38 Tests across 16 series, the time for Marsh to be picked on potential has surely passed.

Worryingly, it’s happened before, and after this summer, nothing will surprise me.

Is Alex Carey the next wicketkeeper in line after Tim Paine?
I think he is, but that doesn’t mean I want him in the Test team now. Or in the short term, for that matter.

But if Carey really is the next in line, then it should dictate that there isn’t a lot of point to picking Matthew Wade as a batsman in the top six. Wade’s season for Tasmania has been strong, and it’s carried on for Hobart in the BBL, too. He’s not, however, any better than any of the other top six options out there, though.

But Carey’s development and progression can be aided by going to England, just as it did for the likes of Paine, as well as Brad Haddin and Adam Gilchrist before him.

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Who are the next best bowlers in Australia?
Only injury will prevent Mitchell Starc, Josh Hazlewood, Pat Cummins and Nathan Lyon playing the first Test in August, but the question of their back-ups is nowhere near as certain.

Are Peter Siddle and Chris Tremain still fourth and fifth-choice in the pace ranks? Will Australia need a second genuine spinner on tour (and who would that be now)? Where does James Pattinson fit in, now that he appears to be fit again? Is Jhye Richardson ready for Test cricket?

And is there merit in sitting Starc and Hazlewood out of one or both of the Sri Lanka Tests? Could the back-up pace berths be decided by a good, old-fashioned bowl-off?

With the Border-Gavaskar Trophy on its way back to India, the thumping series loss will be for nothing if the Australian selectors and coaches aren’t prepared to learn from the mistakes made.

And with an Ashes tour looming large, this upcoming Sri Lanka series is the last chance to adjust and experiment.

Dumbfoundingly, we find out this week if that chance will be taken.

The Crowd Says:

2019-01-08T11:42:09+00:00

Ian_

Roar Rookie


I really can't see why selecting a batting lineup is so difficult. Cricket is a game full of statistics which give us a very good picture of how people go and are likely to go in the future. Picking people with the best statistics should be the norm. Exceptions based on potential and other factors should be pretty rare.

2019-01-08T08:07:46+00:00

Timmuh

Roar Guru


Naming the squad this week is perfectly fine. Nothing (other than injury) pertinent to Test cricket can be learned from 50 or 20 cricket. Its ridiculous that there is no first Class crickeet, but CA have been putting short term dollars ahead of sporting considerations for a long time. And the squad must be chosen with Sri Lanka in mind. Worry about a squad for England after the Shield finishes. Pick the best team for "now" all the time, every time. No Test is "preparation" for another series. It is also the only way to ensure players earmarked for greatness get the message that they have to actually perform, not just "look good in the nets" a few times to get a call up.

2019-01-08T07:14:28+00:00

Targa

Guest


Surely that's the height of arrogance to pick a team to prepare for a future series. Shame Angelo Mathews will be missing - he's a quality player and as good as any subcontinental player at playing the moving ball.

2019-01-08T07:09:36+00:00

Diamond Jackie

Roar Rookie


I reckon they could take Handscomb as the second keeper.

2019-01-08T06:07:48+00:00

JD St George

Roar Pro


I agreed with your post Joey except the Nielsen and Carey part. Nielsen scored 190 runs in 4 matches @27 while Carey scored 150 runs in 2 matches @75 including 110n.o in the final game.

2019-01-08T05:35:02+00:00

Pope Paul VII

Roar Rookie


Every chance Stoinkers might sneak in at 6 if he has one decent hit and takes a couple of wickets in the ODIs.

2019-01-08T05:28:32+00:00

Matt H

Roar Guru


The top six I would like to see for Sri Lanka is Harris, Burns, Khawaja, Patterson, Head, Maxwell. The top six we will likely see is Harris, Khawaja, Labuschagne, S Marsh, Head, M Marsh

2019-01-08T05:24:29+00:00

Matt H

Roar Guru


That Australia vs. Australia A tour match has some major embarrassment potential.

2019-01-08T04:41:27+00:00

IAP

Guest


Pattinson must come in for Hazelwood. Smith and Warner must come straight back in when available.

2019-01-08T01:35:16+00:00

Diamond Jackie

Roar Rookie


Head must be preferred to marsh. Surely. So clearly it will be - Harris/warner/UK/smith/head/all rounder?/Paine - the 4 bowlers It’s only that #6 spot that is genuinely open.

2019-01-08T00:21:07+00:00

rl

Guest


I'm with you both on this. Wade was told to go back and improve his batting. What else does the poor bugger have to do? No reason at all why he shouldn;t be picked as a specialist batter, at least he'd put a higher value on his wicket than some of the characters currently in there. And you put it well, Marnus is an ego pick, but I suspect it Chappell rather than Hohns - Chappell has a massive chubby for trying to pick young 'talent' (who was the former shield bowler who called him out on it a year or two ago??). At this point for SL series, I would be thinking Harris, Burns, Khawaja, Wade, Head, Maxwell, Paine.

2019-01-08T00:04:07+00:00

LFrank

Guest


Completely agree with your comment on Ferg. I still feel for the poor bugger. It's ironic, although not entirely surprising, that he was one of the last guys who earned a spot in the test side on the back of years of consistent results (Harris qualifies for this in my opinion too), yet look at how he was made a scapegoat after a single game in which the entire team failed. Need we remind people that he is a bloke who has done well at international level when given the opportunity (averaged 41 in ODIs [30 games]). I'd love to see Ferg offered another go, but unfortunately he doesn't have age on his side any more.

2019-01-08T00:00:11+00:00

George

Guest


In theory, yes. More likely league cricket than county though. Might be wrong but suspect it'd be unprecedented for a county to sign an Australian wicketkeeper.

2019-01-07T23:53:48+00:00

Christo the Daddyo

Roar Rookie


I'm not sure the whole 'being around the Test squad' is quite the benefit these days as it used to. I think I'd prefer him to playing whatever county games he could over two or three tour games. But happy to hear why you think being on tour with the Test squad would be a better option than regular country cricket?

2019-01-07T23:32:50+00:00

Harvey Wilson

Roar Rookie


Shaun Marsh is done and should have been gone long ago. Why is his average of 35 considered good enough? I would not like to see Warner back when Burns can easily be selected. Regardless, Warner and Smith should have to earn their way back like anyone else. Can any one really justify being selected with no form to show for it? Though the selectors do have history for that.

2019-01-07T23:26:56+00:00

sittingbison

Roar Pro


That's my batting list as well Paul

2019-01-07T23:22:14+00:00

dan ced

Guest


Head isn't far off, and Ferg would've definitely had a test century had they given him more than 1 test! I'd like to see Ferg, Burns and Maxwell back in actually. I'd also like some experimentation with the bowlers.. the "Big 4" were mostly a flop. I'd love to see someone like Fawad Ahmed in as an option in the squad too, sometimes Lyon is not enough.. and Marnus bowled trash. Harris, Khawaja, Burns, Ferguson, Head, Maxwell, Paine, Cummins, Tremain, J.Richardson, Lyon (Ahmed).

2019-01-07T22:29:56+00:00

Paul

Roar Guru


Brett, I agree with your premise about the number of batsmen to tour, etc but we don't have a Test quality all rounder so that should free up another batting spot ( or slot Maxwell in there). I hope the selectors finally see sense and give Burns a run, with Khawaja at 3, Patterson at 4, Head at 5 and Maxwell at 6 for the Sri Lankan Tests. At least these guys would have been given a go and maybe they'll succeed where the Marsh bros and others have failed.

2019-01-07T22:25:24+00:00

bigbaz

Roar Guru


Good post , true grit , the description I’ve been searching for all season. Warner , recently has gone from never to be picked again to 2nd choice . Defeat does that to you , forces forgiveness.

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2019-01-07T22:16:11+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


Christo, for one thing a full country season won't be possible, given the World Cup runs deep into July, and Carey will be part of the Australian squad there. And I think his game has already come on really well in the last year or so he's been involved with the national set-up, to the point that he was quickly preferred to Paine after the ODI series in England last year. So that's where I'm coming from, that the opportunity to be in and around the Test squad on a long tour could be really good for him - even if he doesn't play a Test. There's a Aust v Aust A tour match before the First Test, and then tour games before the 2nd and 4th Tests (I think that's the timing)..

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