Daley vs Gould: OK sure - Loz is right, but...

By Matt Cleary / Expert

Well – Loz vs Gus, eh? Didn’t that escalate quickly.

Or slowly if you consider Laurie Daley’s been sitting upon Phil Gould’s suggestion from mid-2017 that he wouldn’t allow Penrith players into NSW Blues camp lest they be soiled by poor culture and the “dog’s breakfast” that Blues Land was under Daley. It was a statement which, among other things, our Loz didn’t find complimentary.

And then after the Panthers’ week of PR hell in which several players are implicated in the latest craze to sweep Dickhead Nation since all those tattoos – namely filming yourself shagging and sharing the video among your mates, with and/or without the consent of otherwise consenting adults – our Loz has decided time is right to return serve upon his Lordship Augustus.

“If I’m a parent, which I am, at the moment if I have a son good enough to play and if Penrith were in discussions with my son I wouldn’t want my son to go and play at Penrith,” said Daley on his breakfast sports radio program.

“And I wouldn’t want my daughter to go out with any Penrith player.”

NSW’s Laurie Daley – not a fan of the foot of the mountains. (AAP Image/Dave Hunt)

So there you go – hasn’t missed ‘em, as they say.

And Panthers boss Brian Fletcher has a case that Daley’s comments tarnish all at Panthers including the hospital visitors and charity champs, and so on.

But like all the nice Catholic priests, enough of their colleagues are in jail to cast doubt on the majority.

Who’s right? Probably depends if you’re a Laurie man or Gus man.

And everyone’s a Laurie man. Compared to Gould he’s more popular than free piss.

And plenty of what Gus Gould says is like the collected wisdom of many ancient and wise people from olden times.

For mine, though, neither man is really spot on.

Daley was no more in charge of Josh Dugan than Gould runs the life of Tyrone May.

There’s a limit to their influence.

What can they do but what they’re doing? How can you get a young bloke into your footy club and rub off 20 years of rough edges?

You can make a culture. You can declare your standards. And you demand that players fit in or f*** off.

But some young dudes won’t care or listen or think or decide on actions that are in their best interests and that of their futures.

They just won’t. And that’s why they’re sharing videos of each other shagging.

I dunno … The sex video sharing thing … I just … maybe I’m old. I am compared to these people. But I just… I don’t get it.

What is doing? Why would you do that? What’s fun or funny about group sex as spectator sport?

Who didn’t teach these dudes that girls have dads, and that some if not all of them – see Mark Geyer’s rage at the rank trolls who dissed his baby girl – are wont to tear the very heads off those who’d treat their baby girls with such disrespect?

Or am I a prude? Should young adults just be allowed to go about their business, tooling about, taking videos of themselves in orgies?

Is it our business? Is it a father’s business?

I wish it wasn’t anyone’s business. It’s all so crass and dumb and worthless.

And now – like all those tattoos – it’s forever. And your kids will see it, and the girl’s mum and dad will see it, and it’s … just … so dumb.

And if it’s filmed without consent it’s a crime.

And if Gus is right and it’s a practice that’s as widespread in society as it apparently is at Penrith Panthers, then Laurie is right too, and you wouldn’t let your daughter within coo-ee of these people.

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The Crowd Says:

2019-03-08T10:27:33+00:00

Long280

Roar Rookie


This feud has been going much longer then Origin 2017. It seems Laurie has never forgiven Gus for stealing his chair on the sideline of an Origin match many years ago,leaving him looking like your neighbours dog bunched up on your front lawn. Sour grapes from Daley,nothing more.

2019-03-07T22:36:56+00:00

Albo

Roar Rookie


Spot on ! Laurie had no choice but to apologise when he suddenly realised his own association with the Club that brought such enviable culture as displayed by the likes Joel Monaghan, Todd Carney, Ferguson , Dugan, Wighton .....and who will forget that Laurie Daley in his young prime ! Some real boyfriend material for his daughter amongst that lot.

2019-03-07T22:27:43+00:00

Forty Twenty

Roar Rookie


When Laurie Daley breeds a son half as good as himself he will be welcome at Manly. As for people getting distinctive tattoos . I’m all for it , makes great viewing on crime shows where the cctv footage of that expensive tattoo is the thing that puts them in the holiday camp for 25 years.

2019-03-07T22:16:05+00:00

Larry1950

Guest


I'm with you Matt on that 'ink' thing. I watched the news with my wife last night & after the obligatory murder & car hijack stories we had sport with the NRL launch photo opportunity. Remarked to her that the photo had very few cleanskins with the majority sporting sleeves of so called art. Might look good to them now but on a flabby 60 year old arm it will look pretty crass.

2019-03-07T22:12:00+00:00

souvalis

Roar Rookie


It was a sook,erroneous comment from Laurie..nothing more nothing less..he knows it so tried to mop it up..

2019-03-07T21:47:56+00:00

Larry1950

Guest


Gould can defend the panthers culture all he likes but he was the coach at the club during that tragic early 1990's period when Ben Alexander was killed in a car accident during the 1992 season reportedly at 3 times the legal alcohol limit. That tore the club apart for years with Greg Alexander & Mark Geyer leaving the club within a few seasons.

2019-03-07T21:14:32+00:00

BA Sports

Roar Guru


Daley disappointed me yesterday when he backed down and apologised. If he was being honest when he said he wouldn't let his son or daughter near the Panthers, then he should have stood by his convictions. I thought his back down was spineless. Don't give me all this 'players go to this hospital and that school so they are great guys' garbage. They are obligated to. Attending those things doesn't make them good guys, it is how involved they get in them and the enthusiasm and attention they show to the kids and people they meet. Some get into it, others just schlep around and sign the attendance sheet. What they do in their private life - which they continue to make less private themselves, tells far more about them than standing in the back of a photo at Nepean Hospital.

2019-03-07T20:58:23+00:00

Roy

Guest


Laurie forever Gusss never.. Where were all the crocodile tears from blokes like Alexander and Geyer when Gus piped about the blues in 2017? What a lot of contrived outrage..

2019-03-07T20:26:40+00:00

DP Schaefer

Roar Rookie


I'd forgotten about Gus' comments re: the Blues camp. Difficult times. I hear the disappointment in Daley's voice as well as some truth from Steve Mortimer.. and I also hear the echos of a lot of voice trumpeting that some moral and Christian virtues were a good thing. Rarely has it been so evident that this is correct, the world need a few more prudes atm me thinks.

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