Do refs and touchies really have problems with their eyesight?

By Paul / Roar Guru

One of my earliest memories of going to rugby league was sitting on the hill at the SCG with lots of grown men, some in ties, watching the Saturday match-of-the-day, when hundreds of them jumped up, started waving their fists at the playing field and yelling comments like “are you blind ref” or “you need a guide dog, touchie”.

Apart from being quite scary for a young fella, these comments stuck with me, mostly because I assumed these old fellas knew what they were talking about.

I spent many years trying to work out why so many hundreds or thousands people who go to rugby league games can all see things that refs can’t when it dawned on me – our refs are long sighted. That is, they can see incidents a very long way away, but struggle with plays that happen right under their noses.

I remember a game at North Sydney Oval where a Dragons player put in a kick that easily went 60 yards through the air, catching the touch judge on that side of the field by surprise.

The ball landed maybe an inch outside the sideline and the touch judge, from at least 50 yards away, signaled it had gone out on the full.

I was closer to the ball landing than he was, but I had to watch replays that night to be sure he got it right.

Fast forward to 2019 and refs and touch judges still seem to have problems with their eyesight from play that’s in their immediate vicinity.

Refs can see the slightest issue with a play-the-ball from a good 30 yards away, yet a touch judge, in the Thursday night game in Melbourne, standing right in line with the play, could not see a pass that went at least a yard forward when the Storm scored their first try.

This is only one example of many that happen every round and all refs and touch judges appear to be affected by this problem.

There are side effects that seem to compound this problem. Eyesight gets poorer where a spectacular try is about to be scored, or where a home side needs points to get back into a game.

It very often happens that this condition flares up in the attacking 22, where officials who are eagle-eyed everywhere else on the field suddenly seem to lose their sight.

I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve heard refs say they didn’t see an incident when it was right under their noses.

Compounding this issue about refs having poor eyesight is the NRL’s reluctance to do more about it. Try review officials, aka the Bunker, who I assume have very good eyesight, are not allowed to adjudicate on forward passes, not even ones that Tom Brady would have been proud to have thrown.

Rugby league has always been a tough game to adjudicate and I truly have great respect for the men in white, as they were, or the men in fluro, as they are now.

I hope the NRL will do more to help these officials see incidents in games that are right in front of them, just so the game can show it has progressed over 50 years.

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2019-04-27T04:35:31+00:00

Paul

Roar Guru


There's no flaw Mushi, refs often make calls because they receive instructions like letting the game flow and that can mean letting go a pass that travels two metres forward, ignoring an incorrect play the ball, etc. As I said below, we'd still have guys scoring tries who were yards offside from kicks, until they bunker decided it could adjudicate. Suddenly that part of the game has cleaned up considerably. What's the difference?

2019-04-27T04:13:05+00:00

mushi

Roar Guru


Do you see the flaw though. How can it only ever used for bad calls? Generally the ref doesn't think they are making a howler otherwise they wouldn't make it.

2019-04-27T04:11:35+00:00

mushi

Roar Guru


One who decides a howler. Does the NFL doesn't use that in game? I thought the had limited angles like ours. If you are referring to the fancy media packages im pretty sure they a estimations that are used to fill the gaps.

AUTHOR

2019-04-27T01:40:25+00:00

Paul

Roar Guru


You're first question's a good one. This would only be used, (at least initially), where a howler decision has led to either a change of possession or a try within a set of 6 tackles. The video replay official would be able to call it, and the on-field officials could also ask for it, but I can't imagine that happening too often. You're right the NFL doesn't use this technology, but that's not the fault of the technology, only an unwillingness to embrace change. One final thought. Tries that are scored from kicks are almost always referred to the video ref and the first thing that person checks is players being onside. That came about because of the howlers, with guys often being yards offside, but still being awarded tries. This has cleaned up that part of game almost overnight. Why is what I'm suggesting any different?

2019-04-27T01:12:27+00:00

mushi

Roar Guru


One who decides a howler. Dies the NFL doesn't use that in game? I thought the had limited angles like ours. If you are referring to the fancy media packages im pretty sure they a estimations

AUTHOR

2019-04-27T00:13:23+00:00

Paul

Roar Guru


I might nmot have been clear Grey Hand, but the example I was talking about was in an after game show, not in the actual game. I don't know if it would work in the NRL or not because nobody's tried to use it, not even in trial games. The only issue is how long it would take, every time it was called to be used, but again, I think it would only be for really bad calls and there aren't a lot of those in most games

2019-04-26T23:34:10+00:00

Gray-Hand

Roar Rookie


Yeah, but NFL games take like 3 or 4 hours to play. It’s to the point where fatigue is barely a factor in the game. It wouldn’t work for the NRL.

2019-04-26T23:28:51+00:00

Gray-Hand

Roar Rookie


Also, the backwards out of the hands rule essentially makes any refereeing decision the equivalent of a figure skating score. It’s completely subjective.

AUTHOR

2019-04-26T23:09:27+00:00

Paul

Roar Guru


hi Barry, I have no issue with “it all balances out in the end” view point if ALL rules were being refereed. The Doggies game last week was a perfect example where the whistle was put away about ruck infringements. I can't see how there could be any balance, not only in that particular game but across that round, where the rule was more strictly enforced. The point of this piece was to identify a really poor decision ( in this case a non-decision about a forward pass) and suggest refs & touch judges in particular were missing things right under their eyes. More to the point, we now have digital technology that could be used to determine clear howlers without taking a lot of time. I have no issue with 50/50 calls, because that's part & parcel of Rugby League and I hope it doesn't change. Really bad decisions are costing sides games and I'd rather they took a minute or two to use 21st century technology, than come out on Monday morning with an apologetic statement from the refs boss saying they'd made a mistake - again.

AUTHOR

2019-04-26T22:59:47+00:00

Paul

Roar Guru


even more laughable are those who can't write a comment without insulting the author.

AUTHOR

2019-04-26T22:57:57+00:00

Paul

Roar Guru


hi Mushi, all I want is to eliminate the howlers. 50:50 calls about a lot of decisions is part and parcel of this sport, the same as they are in nearly every other sport and that's the way it should be, IMO. A howler is a decision where even the most rusted on opposition support could agree it was wrong, assuming they were a reasonable person and not completely one eyed. I watched some American football after game shows last season and they used EXACTLY the same tape, enhanced it using 3D technology and were able to manipulate the angles. In one instance, they wanted to see if a lateral pass, one which MUST go backwards, did so and they clearly showed that it did, even though it appeared that it didn't. This technology is obviously available in Australia, it's just a shame the powers that be won't even trial it. Or even reconsider a captains challenge.

2019-04-26T13:42:07+00:00

mushi

Roar Guru


Imagine how the spiral bomb would go with that in there!

2019-04-26T13:40:46+00:00

mushi

Roar Guru


It should be easy! Unless you gave accurate ball tracking tech a video review of a forward pass can only eliminate howlers. That would be okay but our fan base would then exoress outrage at what is and isn't a howler

2019-04-26T13:36:01+00:00

mushi

Roar Guru


I reckon my team has been victimized about half the time on these calls. There should be an investigation!

2019-04-26T13:33:44+00:00

mushi

Roar Guru


Do you really think the refs never played?

2019-04-23T08:51:30+00:00

Zavjalova

Roar Rookie


Sad to see considering they've actually been good for the first month

2019-04-23T05:04:47+00:00

WarHorse

Roar Rookie


Except when bad calls go against certain teams on a consistent basis. That's the only consistency we get out of the refs.

2019-04-22T10:33:03+00:00

Mark

Guest


The reason why the bunker cannot rule on forward passes is that the coaches were offered this option and the majority said no. Plus we don't have cameras in enough sideline positions to be 'in line' with every pass. Sure we can pretty much see it from the replays but the are some which are so boarder line that you would need a compass to really tell.

2019-04-22T10:17:30+00:00

Ben

Guest


Gps sensors in the ball mate. That'll fix em.

2019-04-22T07:03:26+00:00

Superspud

Roar Rookie


On that Melbourne try the touchie was staring at the sideline and corner post. He wasn't even looking at the play.

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