What if Lance Franklin had signed with GWS?

By Liam Clark / Roar Guru

Ahead of Lance ‘Buddy’ Frankin’s 300th game against St Kilda at the weekend, I’ve been thinking about his decision in the 2013 trade period to sign with the Sydney Swans.

Franklin had played with Hawthorn between 2005 and 2013, where he experienced a multitude of success and developed into one of the best forwards, if not the best forward, in the competition. During his nine seasons with the Hawks Buddy played a total of 182 games, kicked 580 goals, won two Coleman medals and claimed two premierships in 2008 and 2013. His final game for Hawthorn was their 2013 premiership victory over Fremantle.

However, much of 2013 was filled with speculation about where Franklin would play in 2014 as he held off any contract talks until the end of the season. He was easily one of the top-five players, if not higher, and his free agency was big news. Rumours circulated that if he did not return to Hawthorn, Franklin would end up at AFL newcomer Greater Western Sydney.

However, on 1 October 2013 GWS withdrew their offer as they believed Franklin would sign with their cross-town rivals, which eventuated on 8 October, when Buddy inked a nine-year, $10 million deal with the Sydney Swans.

(Ryan Pierse/Getty Images)

It is interesting to look back at how different the AFL could have been had Franklin chosen to sign with the Giants, who have a brighter-looking present and foreseeable future than the current Swans team. Franklin’s deal with the Giants was supposed to be a six-year, $1.1 million per year deal, which would have seen his contract expire at the end of this season.

The question at this point is whether Franklin chose the right Sydney team. He’s had a solid career with the Swans, playing 117 games for the team, including two grand final appearances in 2014 and 2016, when Sydney lost to Hawthorn and the Bulldogs respectively. Franklin has also kicked a further 360 goals while with the Swans, scoring himself a further two Coleman medals. He’s now placed seventh on the all-time goal kicking list.

The Swans have been successful during their time with Franklin, scoring two minor premierships. However, since their 2016 loss to the Bulldogs, the Bloods have been on a slow decline while the Giants have been a consistent finals presence and premiership contender.

The 2016 season was when this trend began. The two teams faced off in the first game of the finals, providing the Giants with a 36-point victory in their first-ever finals match.

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The 2017 season also had the Giants finish higher on the ladder, ending the year fourth while the Swans were sixth. The 2018 season was the only difference, when Sydney finished sixth while the Giants finished seventh, resulting in another GWS-Sydney finals game from which the Giants again emerged victorious.

This season has also shown up a vast difference between the two teams, with Sydney sitting 15th on the ladder with one round remaining, while the Giants are sixth and heading to a fourth-straight finals appearance.

Sydney’s decline – sure to continue after losing Jarrad McVeigh and Kieren Jack to retirement – makes it interesting to ponder what would have happened had Franklin started the 2014 season in orange. While the Giants struggled that year, they’ve steadily improved since to become a consistent finals contender and premiership threat, had it not been for the injuries they’ve faced.

The addition of Franklin to a forward line already comprising constant Coleman contender Jeremy Cameron would’ve been deadly. Buddy would’ve provided him with veteran leadership while making it difficult to stop a high-scoring Giants outfit. It would have been interesting in 2016 to see a forward line-up of Steve Johnson, Jeremy Cameron and Lance Franklin, three players who would have provided trouble for any opposing defences.

This forward line-up, barring Johnson’s suspension that kept him from playing in the 2016 preliminary final, could have taken the team gone all the way during a year the Giants were dominant. Many saw the 2016 and 2017 seasons as their main premiership opportunities.

While we as fans can only speculate why Franklin chose the Swans over the Giants – likely it was Sydney’s form in the 2013 season – we can only really imagine what would have been. It’s terrifying to think of what a Giants outfit featuring Lance Franklin could have delivered and fascinating to wonder whether Buddy would have had been able to add another one or two premierships to his already impressive resume.

All I know is Franklin would have been just as good in any coloured guernsey, and it will be a treat to see him run through the banner for his 300th game at the weekend.

The Crowd Says:

2019-08-29T07:16:36+00:00

Birdman

Roar Rookie


From a Hawks member's perspective, I think the answer is yes. Stiff cheese Buddy :shocked:

AUTHOR

2019-08-29T06:54:07+00:00

Liam Clark

Roar Guru


Hi Doctor, this is a great what if. The Suns have had so much talent, which has blossomed in new environments. It would have been interesting to see where the team would be if all the players had stuck it out as a unit

AUTHOR

2019-08-29T06:52:51+00:00

Liam Clark

Roar Guru


Hi Kandeepan, this is another good one. Would have been interesting to see this occur

2019-08-28T07:08:21+00:00

Doctor Rotcod

Roar Rookie


The biggest if of all What if these players had shown loyalty? Josh Caddy, end of 2012 — Geelong . Maverick Weller, end of 2013 — St Kilda. Harley Bennell, end of 2015 — Fremantle . Charlie Dixon, end of 2015 — Pt Adelaide. Jaeger O’Meara, end of 2016 — Hawthorn. Jarrod Garlett, end of 2016 — Carlton. Dion Prestia, end of 2016 — Richmond . Gary Ablett (ex-captain), end of 2017 — Geelong . Adam Saad, end of 2017 — Essendon . Brandon Matera, end of 2017 — Fremantle. Tom Lynch (co-captain), end of 2018 — Richmond . Steven May (co-captain), end of 2018 — Melbourne . Tom Hickey(via St Kilda). And others. Where would the Suns be now?

2019-08-28T04:16:07+00:00

Big AL

Roar Rookie


What if Ablett Snr had stayed at Hawthorn

2019-08-26T12:20:47+00:00

Kandeepan Arul

Roar Rookie


What if Boyd had stayed at GWS and not gone to the bulldogs.

AUTHOR

2019-08-26T07:11:21+00:00

Liam Clark

Roar Guru


Buddy wasn't just a big name in AFL but in Australian sports. I feel most people around the time of the beginning of the Hawthorn dynasty would know who he was. He may have not been as big a name for GWS as he was for the Swans, but he would have definitely helped them. However, I do agree that he has helped increase crowds and membership.

2019-08-26T05:56:54+00:00

clipper

Roar Rookie


I really don't know about that - it may have added a few converts, but it's a very slow building process out west - most people out there wouldn't have known or cared who he was, whereas in the Swans catchment he was a bigger name and helped increase crowds and membership. There was no decline in the Swans attendance over time after GWS entered, unlike the situation with the Lions and Suns.

AUTHOR

2019-08-26T03:41:24+00:00

Liam Clark

Roar Guru


Buddy certainly did make an impact, as shown by this year where he has been injury plagued. I really did like the Giants a couple years back, however they have not done a lot to improve from their 2016 season. They have been injury plagued but you can only blame that so much

2019-08-25T02:28:09+00:00

BLACKTOWN

Roar Rookie


Jesinta made sure her man signed with the glamour Sydney team and they quickly became the it couple.Be that as it may the Swans made the G.F in his first year and Giants 16th so there's no denying Buddys impact as shown this year with his injuries and lack of depth due to salary cap concessions gone contributing to Swans missing out on semis.i do not believe the Giants will ever be a powerhouse playing out of Homebush and should move holus bolus to Canberra.

AUTHOR

2019-08-25T01:11:51+00:00

Liam Clark

Roar Guru


That is true, but which team would have arguably had more success with Buddy in your opinion? We know of the Swans success, but could Buddy have pushed GWS over the hump?

AUTHOR

2019-08-25T01:10:58+00:00

Liam Clark

Roar Guru


Yeah I feel they would have definitely won the premiership in 2016 with Buddy, and as a Swans fan I reckon you would be happy with Buddy not being with GWS

2019-08-24T23:12:23+00:00

BLACKTOWN

Roar Rookie


If buddy had of gone to Giants both clubs would still have their cost of living allowance

2019-08-24T11:25:37+00:00

Mark.

Roar Rookie


Definitely could and would in 2016 with him there. Happy because as a Swans fan I can’t stand the orange clowns.

AUTHOR

2019-08-24T04:20:44+00:00

Liam Clark

Roar Guru


Hi Jack, thanks for the comment. This is definitely another article I have thought of. It would have been interesting to see Josh Kennedy stay at Carlton, and to see the trade re worked. It’s definitley one of those big what if moments. West Coast have seemingly won the trade long term

2019-08-24T03:56:16+00:00

Jack A

Guest


What if Carlton didn’t succumb to the Eagles demand that Josh Kennedy MUST be part of the Judd trade? Carlton would have had Fev and JK as their key forwards while they were playing finals. It was an astute trade from WC which they’ve clearly won over the journey. In saying that, Judd was great for Carlton, but would they rather have had Kennedy or Kreuzer for the past 12 years and Judd? They could have had both JK and Judd. West Coast originally wanted Picks 1 and 3 as part of the deal — the Blues refused because they wanted Kreuzer - it seems they prioritised Kreuzer over Kennedy. Instead, the Eagles settled on Picks 3 (Masten), 20 (Notte) and Josh Kennedy in exchange for Judd and Pick 46 which they used to select Armitage. Kennedy and Masten have both played over 200 games and are premiership players. If the Blues had given up picks 1 and 3, who would WC have selected and what sort of career has he had? Significant sliding door moment for both clubs. https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2019-former-blues-football-boss-steven-icke-says-club-erred-in-trading-josh-kennedy-in-chris-judd-deal/news-story/39a99ec23a1a35c3e044089e0f6ca733?nk=3f24dd52b305ff8115180ef39cf4a989-1566618082

AUTHOR

2019-08-24T03:51:45+00:00

Liam Clark

Roar Guru


Hi Boo, yeah Buddy would have definitely been great for the marketing of GWS, definitley bringing in more of the Sydney fan base and the rugby coverts who are looking for an AFL club to get into this great sport

AUTHOR

2019-08-24T03:49:10+00:00

Liam Clark

Roar Guru


The Ablett Jnr one is definitley one I am going to look at writing. He wasted so much time at Gold Coast, would be interesting to see how they went with Ablett during arguably the majority of his prime years which he wasted at Gold Coast

2019-08-24T02:47:52+00:00

Boo

Guest


What if Ablett Jr had stayed at Geelong.

2019-08-24T02:46:17+00:00

Boo

Guest


Buddy at the Giants would have been a fantastic marketing coup for the club.His athleticism would have dragged more converts from rugby league heartland in the west of Sydney than it did at the Swans.

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